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Habs trades before 2023 trade deadline

Créé par: ht42
Date de création initiale: 31 juill. 2022
Publié: 31 juill. 2022
Équipe: 2022-23 Canadiens de Montréal
Description
The fact that Kent Hughes is able to upgrade the value of his players a force the others teams to make somes ridiculous offers.

Just ask Joe Sakic and Bill Zito.
Transactions
1.
MTL
  1. Choix de 2023 ronde en 4e (SEA)
  2. Choix de 2024 ronde en 2e (SEA)
Détails additionnels:
Seattle will likely try a playoffs push
SEA
  1. Armia, Joel
2.
MTL
  1. Choix de 2023 ronde en 1e (NSH)
  2. Choix de 2023 ronde en 3e (SJS)
Détails additionnels:
1st round pick: If the Predators pass the 1st round of the 2023 Stanley Cup Playoffs, they will give a 2024 1st round pick instead of the 2023 1st round pick.
NSH
  1. Allen, Jake (1 437 500 $ retained)
3.
MTL
  1. Monahan, Sean
  2. Choix de 2023 ronde en 1e (CGY)
  3. Choix de 2024 ronde en 3e (CGY)
CGY
  1. Dvorak, Christian
  2. Choix de 2023 ronde en 4e (PIT)
4.
MTL
  1. Choix de 2023 ronde en 2e (DET)
  2. Choix de 2023 ronde en 6e (DET)
  3. Choix de 2024 ronde en 7e (DET)
DET
  1. Dadonov, Evgeni (2 500 000 $ retained)
5.
MTL
    Cap dump.

    The only trade that will be made between the trade deadline and the 2023 NHL Draft
    CHI
    1. Hoffman, Mike
    2. Choix de 2023 ronde en 4e (MTL)
    3. Choix de 2024 ronde en 2e (SEA)
    4. Choix de 2024 ronde en 7e (DET)
    5. Choix de 2024 ronde en 7e (EDM)
    Rachats de contrats
    • Karl Alzner: 833 333 $
    Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
    • Jake Allen: 1 437 500 $ (50%)
    • Evgeni Dadonov: 2 500 000 $ (50%)
    ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGE1E RONDE2E RONDE3E RONDE4E RONDE5E RONDE6E RONDE7E RONDE
    2023
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    2024
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    2025
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    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    1882 500 000 $72 339 166 $1 132 500 $5 070 000 $10 160 834 $
    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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    Byron, Paul
    3 400 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 1
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    Suzuki, Nick
    7 875 000 $
    C
    UFA - 8
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    Caufield, Cole
    880 833 $
    AG
    RFA - 1
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    Pitlick, Rem
    1 100 000 $
    AG, C, AD
    UFA - 2
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    Evans, Jake
    1 700 000 $
    C
    UFA - 3
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    Gallagher, Brendan
    6 500 000 $
    AD
    M-NTC, NMC
    UFA - 5
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    Slafkovsky, Juraj
    950 000 $
    AG, AD
    RFA - 3
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    Pezzetta, Michael
    750 000 $
    AG, AD
    RFA - 1
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    Anderson, Josh
    5 500 000 $
    AD, AG
    M-NTC
    UFA - 5
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    Monahan, Sean
    6 375 000 $
    C, AG, AD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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    Matheson, Michael
    4 875 000 $
    DG
    M-NTC
    UFA - 4
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    Savard, David
    3 500 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 3
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    Price, Carey
    10 500 000 $
    G
    NMC
    UFA - 4
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    Edmundson, Joel
    3 500 000 $
    DG/DD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
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    Barron, Justin
    925 000 $
    DD
    RFA - 2
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    Montembeault, Samuel
    1 000 000 $
    G
    UFA - 2
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    Harris, Jordan
    842 500 $
    DG/DD
    RFA - 1
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    Wideman, Chris
    762 500 $
    DD
    UFA - 2
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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    Drouin, Jonathan
    5 500 000 $
    C, AG
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1

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    31 juill. 2022 à 23 h 51
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    Horrible for Calgary. Ill take 1 year of Monahan probably bouncing back over 3 years of Dvorak still being average all day long
    31 juill. 2022 à 23 h 53
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    Take the first rounder out of the Allen trade.
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    31 juill. 2022 à 23 h 54
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    Seattle making a playoff push? And paying assets for Armia who’s a cap dump?

    No team is paying a 1st for Allen. He’s an average backup
    31 juill. 2022 à 23 h 57
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    Horrible for Calgary. Ill take 1 year of Monahan probably bouncing back over 3 years of Dvorak still being average all day long


    Dvorack is a type of player that can be a perfect fit for a coach like Sutter, and about Monahan, I don't see him having a bounce-back season with the Flames.
    31 juill. 2022 à 23 h 58
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    Seattle making a playoff push? And paying assets for Armia who’s a cap dump?

    No team is paying a 1st for Allen. He’s an average backup
    31 juill. 2022 à 23 h 59
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    Those returns are all very biased in the Habs favour and its not really close. Also many of the teams you traded players to likely don't have any interest in those specific players.
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    Seattle making a playoff push? And paying assets for Armia who’s a cap dump?

    No team is paying a 1st for Allen. He’s an average backup


    Adding Burakovsky, Bjorkstrand & Schultz isn't called a playoffs push ?
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    Those returns are all very biased in the Habs favour and its not really close. Also many of the teams you traded players to likely don't have any interest in those specific players.


    Read my explanation below.
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    Read my explanation below.


    I did before I made that comment. You aren't getting those kinds of returns for those specific players. Also your explanations don't explain much.
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    Take the first rounder out of the Allen trade.


    Allen haved a underrated great season with the Habs, but he miss few months due to injury and also haved a season-ending injury.

    Also, just read my explanations below.
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    I did before I made that comment. You aren't getting those kinds of returns for those specific players. Also your explanations don't explain much.


    What about the Chiarot, the Kulak and the Lehkonen trades ?

    All of theses trades are biased.
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    Detroit isn’t and won’t be in the market for a winger at any point now or this year. Unless it’s a superstar. We have too many on the roster and plenty itching to get into the lineup, and Fabbri who will be back at some point in the year as well.
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    Detroit isn’t and won’t be in the market for a winger at any point now or this year. Unless it’s a superstar. We have too many on the roster and plenty itching to get into the lineup, and Fabbri who will be back at some point in the year as well.


    Personally, I will take Dadonov before Kubalik, Fabbri and Suter.

    Also, I don't see Yzeman making a enormous trade for a elite player, that's will be a mistake for him.
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    What about the Chiarot, the Kulak and the Lehkonen trades ?

    All of theses trades are biased.


    Those players actually have value. Florida was/ still is in a desperate win now mode and Zito seems to be paying alot for players. Lehkonen is young and was under team control, he's a pretty good player and he excelled with Colorado. Kulak is a good steady defenceman, he was cheap and he only cost a second with retention, not much of an overpay. That said they all got more than I expected. Also teams tend to pay more for defencemen at the deadline.

    Dadonov is the only one there close to value and he likely gets a second with retention but likely not to Detroit. They have too many forwards as it is and more itching to get into the line up.
    Seattle just paid a third and a fourth for a winger who just put up 28 goals with not a great team around him. He is younger than Armia and I would say better defensively although I'm not totally sure on that. Armia put up 14 points last year so I don't see Seattle paying anything, or any team for that matter for 3 years of Armia. Also Seattle has a pretty full forward corps.
    You then traded a career back up goalie to a team with too many goals right now, all of which are younger. He might be lucky to return a third round pick but a first is ridiculous, especially to a team with more than enough goalies.
    Now thaw Tkachuk and Gaudreau are gone, Calgary doesn't really have a need to dump Monohan and they are better off hoping he rebounds than paying to get rid of him. Montreal maybe paid too much for Dvorak but I don't see any other team paying that for him.
    Chicago might take Hoffman for that though.
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    1 août 2022 à 1 h 25
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    Dvorack is a type of player that can be a perfect fit for a coach like Sutter, and about Monahan, I don't see him having a bounce-back season with the Flames.


    He had the same surgery as Seguin and played all of the last 2 seasons injured, I would think ~50 points is very realistic for Monahan
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    Everyone easily declines
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    I don’t think anyone would trade a first to upgrade their backup goaltender UNLESS the starter is injured without a return timeline.
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