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taking 2 years to rebuild the blueline

Créé par: BenningTruther
Équipe: 2023-24 Canucks de Vancouver
Date de création initiale: 30 juill. 2022
Publié: 30 juill. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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RFAANSCAP HIT
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21 950 000 $
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43 850 000 $
2950 000 $
21 850 000 $
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VAN
  1. Fabbro, Dante [Droits de RFA]
  2. Prokop, Luke
  3. Tomasino, Philip
Détails additionnels:
2023 deadline, could add picks either side to balance
NSH
    JT Miller
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    VAN
    1. Bear, Ethan [Droits de RFA]
    Détails additionnels:
    2023 deadline
    CAR
    1. Dermott, Travis [Droits de RFA]
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    VAN
    1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (FLA)
    Détails additionnels:
    2023 draft, anywhere
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    Détails additionnels:
    2023 draft, anywhere
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    VAN
    1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2023 (ARI)
    2. Choix de 7e ronde en 2025 (ARI)
    Détails additionnels:
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    31 juill. 2022 à 17 h 5
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    Quoting: Caniac2000
    He was just signed, it's going to take more than Dermott (who is a project) for him. If you want Bear, he is likely expendable, but probably for picks and futures.


    signed to avoid arbitration, dont see him as a long term cane. wouldnt call dermott anymore of a project than bear
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    31 juill. 2022 à 17 h 15
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    id assume an extension would be a part of any miller trade

    Even with an extension I wouldn’t want to give up tomasino. He showed some real good things last year playing majority 4th line minutes at 20. I see him getting the opportunity to fit on that 2nd line with Joey and nino plus a full time 2nd power play time. I could see him maybe doubling his point total from last year but at least hitting 50 points as a 21 year old. I’d rather hang on to him. If we were to go after miller it would only be for a rental because no way can we fit him next year.
    31 juill. 2022 à 17 h 51
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    Quoting: BenningTruther
    signed to avoid arbitration, dont see him as a long term cane. wouldnt call dermott anymore of a project than bear


    Dermott is far more of a project than Bear. Dermott isn't even sure what side is his best side. Bear started last year on Carolina's top pairing, and was there for the first month or so, people forget that. He's going to be a long term Cane. The reason they let Bear look for a deal elsewhere (which he obviously didn't get) is to show him he's not going to make more than he is worth anywhere. And why would you sign a contract entirely to avoid arbitration if you know you're going to have to give him a deal anywhere? You'd trade him to avoid arbitration...
    31 juill. 2022 à 18 h 13
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    Quoting: Caniac2000
    Dermott is far more of a project than Bear. Dermott isn't even sure what side is his best side. Bear started last year on Carolina's top pairing, and was there for the first month or so, people forget that. He's going to be a long term Cane. The reason they let Bear look for a deal elsewhere (which he obviously didn't get) is to show him he's not going to make more than he is worth anywhere. And why would you sign a contract entirely to avoid arbitration if you know you're going to have to give him a deal anywhere? You'd trade him to avoid arbitration...


    started there and clearly didnt end there for a reason... and i wouldnt say dermott doesnt know what side is his best side, he just plays both lmao
    31 juill. 2022 à 18 h 13
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    Quoting: GeauxPreds1
    Even with an extension I wouldn’t want to give up tomasino. He showed some real good things last year playing majority 4th line minutes at 20. I see him getting the opportunity to fit on that 2nd line with Joey and nino plus a full time 2nd power play time. I could see him maybe doubling his point total from last year but at least hitting 50 points as a 21 year old. I’d rather hang on to him. If we were to go after miller it would only be for a rental because no way can we fit him next year.


    fair enough but gotta give value to get value
    31 juill. 2022 à 18 h 15
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    Quoting: BenningTruther
    started there and clearly didnt end there for a reason... and i wouldnt say dermott doesnt know what side is his best side, he just plays both lmao


    So is he a LD or a RD? Dermott doesn't know what side he should be playing on and that is a huge worry. Like, Mikhail Sergachev can play both sides, but is a better LD than RD. TJ Brodie can play both sides, is a better RD than LD. List goes on and on. Dermott doesn't know what side he should be playing on and there's a lot of work there. That is a project. Bear isn't. They're not comparable
    31 juill. 2022 à 18 h 17
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    Quoting: Caniac2000
    So is he a LD or a RD? Dermott doesn't know what side he should be playing on and that is a huge worry. Like, Mikhail Sergachev can play both sides, but is a better LD than RD. TJ Brodie can play both sides, is a better RD than LD. List goes on and on. Dermott doesn't know what side he should be playing on and there's a lot of work there. That is a project. Bear isn't. They're not comparable


    have you spoken to him personally to know this? played primarily the right side in van but can play both. not sure how "he doesnt know" lmao
    31 juill. 2022 à 18 h 26
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    Quoting: BenningTruther
    have you spoken to him personally to know this? played primarily the right side in van but can play both. not sure how "he doesnt know" lmao


    If he could play RD well, Toronto wouldn't have dumped him and kept Justin Holl
    31 juill. 2022 à 19 h 0
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    Quoting: BenningTruther
    fair enough but gotta give value to get value


    That’s an over pay to be honest. As you see it fabbro like he was here last year with us would be your top pairing right handed defenseman. So you get a top pair defenseman, a young forward with tons of potential and our top right handed defenseman prospect. To much for one year of miller.
     
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