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Getting Some BC Boys Back

Créé par: SensCanucksFan67
Équipe: 2023-24 Canucks de Vancouver
Date de création initiale: 29 juill. 2022
Publié: 29 juill. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
3950 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
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CBJ
  1. McDonough, Aidan [Liste de réserve]
  2. Pettersson, Elias
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (VAN)
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VAN
  1. Choix de 6e ronde en 2024 (CHI)
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VAN
  1. Barzal, Mathew [Droits de RFA]
NYI
  1. Garland, Conor
  2. Lekkerimäki, Jonathan [Liste de réserve]
  3. Podkolzin, Vasily
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (VAN)
  5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (VAN)
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29 juill. 2022 à 22 h 10
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Quoting: Knuckl3s
2 way impact? If his offensive game wasn't called into question, he wouldn't have been traded


Romanov isn't a PP guy - he plays the game similar to Adam Pelech. He can drive offense and he has a good impact on the rate his team scores goals. Points are a terrible way to evaluate offensive impact

Here's how he compares to OEL over the last 3 years.


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29 juill. 2022 à 22 h 10
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Podkolzin is good! The Swedish kid is good. They aren’t enough to build a package around!


Yeah they are, you undervalue them as assets
29 juill. 2022 à 22 h 11
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Quoting: Knuckl3s
Okay, okay, my bad. It's just when you use such a snarky tone of voice, it's hard to tell


Yeah I’m fairly sarcastic lol. I thought all the LOL’s made it more obvious over text. Sometimes I throw in a couple of emoji’s too to mix it up.
29 juill. 2022 à 22 h 11
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Romanov isn't a PP guy - he plays the game similar to Adam Pelech. He can drive offense and he has a good impact on the rate his team scores goals. Points are a terrible way to evaluate offensive impact

Here's how he compares to OEL over the last 3 years.


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I never said that driving offense and putting up points were one in the same, but there has to be a decent amount of correlation. I'm not sure I see that with Romanov
29 juill. 2022 à 22 h 11
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Quoting: Knuckl3s
Yeah they are, you undervalue them as assets


Not for Barzal.
29 juill. 2022 à 22 h 12
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I never said that driving offense and putting up points were one in the same, but there has to be a decent amount of correlation. I'm not sure I see that with Romanov


Ur comparing a veteran to a 22 year old tbh. Harder to have accurate numbers when it comes to younger players cause they r developing.
29 juill. 2022 à 22 h 12
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Yeah I’m fairly sarcastic lol. I thought all the LOL’s made it more obvious over text. Sometimes I throw in a couple of emoji’s too to mix it up.


Okay, cool
29 juill. 2022 à 22 h 12
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Not for Barzal.


If Barzal put up better offensive numbers in recent years, I'd probably say different, but he hasn't
29 juill. 2022 à 22 h 12
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Quoting: alwaysnextyear
Not appealing at all to VAN. A starting point might be those two prospects for Petey, not with VAN adding their 2023 1st an another B prospect.


As I said, would re-evaluate after the end of the season. The Jacket's future cap situation and futures for both Johnson and Ceulemans should be more projectable then. The trade would likely be after the 2023 draft if it were to happen so I didn't really factor in that 1st, just Petey.
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29 juill. 2022 à 22 h 13
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Ur comparing a veteran to a 22 year old tbh. Harder to have accurate numbers when it comes to younger players cause they r developing.


I dunno, I mean Montreal already gave up on Romanov. I think we can agree Kent Hughes is a pretty smart guy
29 juill. 2022 à 22 h 13
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Quoting: Knuckl3s
I never said that driving offense and putting up points were one in the same, but there has to be a decent amount of correlation. I'm not sure I see that with Romanov


Romanov was better than 65% of defenseman last season at setting up high danger scoring chances. When you play on a bad team that can't finish and also get no PP time, its hard to put up a lot of points.

Pelech doesn't put up a lot of points and hes great at driving offense.
29 juill. 2022 à 22 h 13
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If Barzal put up better offensive numbers in recent years, I'd probably say different, but he hasn't


You are blaming the player for the situation. And his recent playoff success more than makes up for his regular season numbers imo.
29 juill. 2022 à 22 h 14
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I dunno, I mean Montreal already gave up on Romanov. I think we can agree Kent Hughes is a pretty smart guy


Romanov moved him to get Dach
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You are blaming the player for the situation. And his recent playoff success more than makes up for his regular season numbers imo.


Maybe I'm blaming the player for not making more of the situation he was put in
29 juill. 2022 à 22 h 14
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Romanov moved him to get Dach


So the Romanov acquisition is all about Montreal wanting to get Dach?
29 juill. 2022 à 22 h 15
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Maybe I'm blaming the player for not making more of the situation he was put in


quality of teammates affects production more than anything else. He's one of the best playmakers in the game on a team with a lack of finishing talent. If he was on almost any other team he'd put up 85-90 pts.
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29 juill. 2022 à 22 h 15
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Romanov was better than 65% of defenseman last season at setting up high danger scoring chances. When you play on a bad team that can't finish and also get no PP time, its hard to put up a lot of points.

Pelech doesn't put up a lot of points and hes great at driving offense.


I mean, it will be great to see Romanov finally break out, but he's still in the camp of I'll believe it when I see it for me
29 juill. 2022 à 22 h 16
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So the Romanov acquisition is all about Montreal wanting to get Dach?


Not a fan of what Montreal did at the draft
29 juill. 2022 à 22 h 16
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quality of teammates affects production more than anything else. He's one of the best playmakers in the game on a team with a lack of finishing talent. If he was on almost any other team he'd put up 85-90 pts.


You sound very confident in that assessment
29 juill. 2022 à 22 h 16
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So the Romanov acquisition is all about Montreal wanting to get Dach?


it was, MTL was asking the isles for Beauvillier and multiple picks for Romanov earlier in the offseason. Once CHI said they wanted a top 15 pick they got desperate.
29 juill. 2022 à 22 h 17
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Not a fan of what Montreal did at the draft


So you don't like Kent Hughes? You might be in the minority there
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29 juill. 2022 à 22 h 17
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it was, MTL was asking the isles for Beauvillier and multiple picks for Romanov earlier in the offseason. Once CHI said they wanted a top 15 pick they got desperate.


Okay, that's interesting
29 juill. 2022 à 22 h 18
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wow this went off the rails pretty fast in an hour


personally i would only accept this deal if jason Dickinson and Tucker Poolman get thrown in
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29 juill. 2022 à 22 h 19
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wow this went off the rails pretty fast in an hour


personally i would only accept this deal if jason Dickinson and Tucker Poolman get thrown in


You know I have actually been making popcorn this entire time?
29 juill. 2022 à 22 h 20
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Quoting: Knuckl3s
You sound very confident in that assessment


I mean its not really a hot take. Barzal can't control another forwards S%. He had a 98 PDO last season, anything under 100 is considered unlucky. He drives offense and sets up his teammates at an elite level, if he had a top line caliber player on his line that would lead to more production
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