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Équipe: 2022-23 Ducks d'Anaheim
Date de création initiale: 29 juill. 2022
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29 juill. 2022 à 19 h 58
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I'd take that for Drouin
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29 juill. 2022 à 20 h 1
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Quoting: Just_A_Guess
I'd take that for Drouin


Agreed
I saw Helleson and nothing else mattered
That Alone address's our Final needs in our depth chart as far as big holes
I wanted him before we got Barron somehow as i thought Barron was a non starter(as per every COL GM on this site anyways)

I actually like Drouin and think under MSL he'll do great
That said despite that Helleson makes us better on our timeline
Its a no brainer
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29 juill. 2022 à 20 h 2
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Quoting: Just_A_Guess
I'd take that for Drouin


A Montreal fan accepting a Montreal fan's offer of an expensive veteran rental in exchange for an A prospect forward with his entire career ahead of him and an excellent defense prospect. No, thanks. We're a building team developing young talent, not a contending team giving a veteran one last hurrah. Awful, terrible trade for the Ducks.
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29 juill. 2022 à 20 h 3
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Massive and i mean massive overpay for Drouin
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29 juill. 2022 à 20 h 5
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massive overpay for Drouin
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29 juill. 2022 à 20 h 6
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Quoting: bobbyjoeeeee
Massive and i mean massive overpay for Drouin


Quoting: majormoose007
massive overpay for Drouin


These Montreal homers are shameless.
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29 juill. 2022 à 20 h 7
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When did Drouin become worth anything other than future considerations tears of joy

Ducks laugh in the face of this offer tears of joy

Hab fans been smoking some good stuff lately

How about Kevin Shattenkirk for Kaiden Guhle and Justin Barron, makes just about as much sense tears of joy
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29 juill. 2022 à 20 h 11
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Quoting: Salzy
When did Drouin become worth anything other than future considerations tears of joy
Ducks laugh in the face of this offer tears of joy
Hab fans been smoking some good stuff lately
How about Kevin Shattenkirk for Kaiden Guhle and Justin Barron, makes just about as much sense tears of joy

I was thinking Adam Henrique (who had almost as many points -- 42 -- in 58 games last season as Drouin had -- 43 -- in 78 games in the last two seasons) for Jan Mysak and Mattias Norlinder, but your counter works, too.
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29 juill. 2022 à 20 h 37
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I'm sorry, on what planet is Stolarz worth a 2nd and a 3rd (let alone to a team that doesn't need a goalie)?



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He used to be solid pre pandemic he ruled by logic and loved debating .
Since i've seen him become more active and close minded .
Things that were a Grey area he's approach as open for debate for example.
Now its a total Karen move ever post i see

Its a shame
Deffinately was one of my top 10 fav people who posted on here.


Quoting: Just_A_Guess
A non MTL fan spewing nonsense, surprise...



Whaaaat are you two on about? Every single word he said in that comment is 100% accurate.
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29 juill. 2022 à 20 h 39
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He is a rental that hasn't been remotely healthy the last three seasons in a row, and is a bit too old for the ducks timeline, and his spot is filler by the Strom/Vatrano signings.

We probably only need 3 million to offer sheet Sandin, the Leafs are cap screwed right now, but doing this would be a bad idea for a retaliatory offersheet for our big 3 guys this upcoming off season driving their price up.

Stolarz is doable, but Greiss would need to come back as well, for cap retention and because I don't want to throw Dostal to the wolves too early and ruin his development. St Louis likely says to take a walk though.
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29 juill. 2022 à 20 h 39
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Quoting: mokumboi
I'm sorry, on what planet is Stolarz worth a 2nd and a 3rd (let alone to a team that doesn't need a goalie)

Whaaaat are you two on about? Every single word he said in that comment is 100% accurate.


Habs fans have been getting more and more delusional by the day
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29 juill. 2022 à 20 h 51
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Quoting: mokumboi
I'm sorry, on what planet is Stolarz worth a 2nd and a 3rd (let alone to a team that doesn't need a goalie)?








Whaaaat are you two on about? Every single word he said in that comment is 100% accurate.


On this site you have about a 100 GMs all agreeing they're right
Then reality hits and Context comes into play and the first thing we hear
"no one coulda seen that coming "

Strome no getting a QO "who coulda seen that coming "
Tkachuck leaving to got to USA "who coulda see that coming "

Its ALWAYS like that
OldNYIFan for example used to deal in Logical Fact based opinions that werent always over with many people.
Now it's like he gave his account to someone else as its a polar opposite of before.
In the past he'd see a trade and find a way the piece's and the teams could make it work.(kinda like you just did )
Offer logical options and recourse for moving forward

Now its "lets talk smack , use Slander and not talk about actual hockey"
TBH this site's gotten worse for it as its Admin's let anything from Anti LGBTQ slang to outright trolling like LittleJerrySeinfield made an account just for.
Quality has went down and the people on here have seen the standards lowered so they're no longer stepping up as much.

But that's just life
CapGeek was amazing too for about the same period of time
Another new Forum with higher standards will appear and Capfriendly will fade too
Cant stop progress
29 juill. 2022 à 21 h 0
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Quoting: Billy739
On this site you have about a 100 GMs all agreeing they're right
Then reality hits and Context comes into play and the first thing we hear
"no one coulda seen that coming "

Strome no getting a QO "who coulda seen that coming "
Tkachuck leaving to got to USA "who coulda see that coming "

Its ALWAYS like that
OldNYIFan for example used to deal in Logical Fact based opinions that werent always over with many people.
Now it's like he gave his account to someone else as its a polar opposite of before.
In the past he'd see a trade and find a way the piece's and the teams could make it work.(kinda like you just did )
Offer logical options and recourse for moving forward

Now its "lets talk smack , use Slander and not talk about actual hockey"
TBH this site's gotten worse for it as its Admin's let anything from Anti LGBTQ slang to outright trolling like LittleJerrySeinfield made an account just for.
Quality has went down and the people on here have seen the standards lowered so they're no longer stepping up as much.

But that's just life
CapGeek was amazing too for about the same period of time
Another new Forum with higher standards will appear and Capfriendly will fade too
Cant stop progress


Finding a way to make the pieces work starts with the deal having some semblance of sanity to it. Under what condition or assumption do you think the Ducks are buyers this year? What does Drouin add to Anaheim? Why would we give up multiple good prospects to get him?

You sell rentals to teams who are making a making a push deep into the playoffs, the Ducks are firmly in the middle of a rebuild. If we want Drouin, we will sign him in free agency at the end of the year.
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29 juill. 2022 à 21 h 9
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Blues say no
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29 juill. 2022 à 21 h 11
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Finding a way to make the pieces work starts with the deal having some semblance of sanity to it. Under what condition or assumption do you think the Ducks are buyers this year? What does Drouin add to Anaheim? Why would we give up multiple good prospects to get him?

You sell rentals to teams who are making a making a push deep into the playoffs, the Ducks are firmly in the middle of a rebuild. If we want Drouin, we will sign him in free agency at the end of the year.


With some users on this site it’s best to use the “add to ignore list” feature
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29 juill. 2022 à 21 h 12
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Finding a way to make the pieces work starts with the deal having some semblance of sanity to it. Under what condition or assumption do you think the Ducks are buyers this year? What does Drouin add to Anaheim? Why would we give up multiple good prospects to get him?

You sell rentals to teams who are making a making a push deep into the playoffs, the Ducks are firmly in the middle of a rebuild. If we want Drouin, we will sign him in free agency at the end of the year.


Under what conditions does Klingberg sign a 1 year deal?
For the purpose's to be show cased on top and potentially earn a deal in theory right?
Biggest reason is clearly so he can be sold as fluffing his numbers up at the TDL to a Contender IMO

Drouin gives them the same chance as most of Drouins issues are the fact he has to live in MTL
Most French players dont actually handle the pressure well its the Gallaghers, Pitlicks and Caufield's the Camera's love
Unlike the French players they dont pay attention to the language issue as much , they dont have to

My point is Comtois is out
Drouin seem's like a smart piece to add

If its me

Drouin
Ylonen(Top Pro Winger Prospect outside Slavkosky oblviously)
Mysak(i'd rank him similar to Groulx potential but younger)
2nd round pick in 2024 (conditional 1st if Comtois signed 5 years to more )
3rd round pick in 2023 (conditional 2nd if Drouin doesnt play 40 games by seasons end)
for

Comtois
Groulx
5th in 2023

ANA recoops assets , get's a shot at a 1st and can possibly flip Drouin
Even if Drouin craps out A- prospect , B+ Prospect , 2nd that likely will become a 1st if Comtois plays well this season and a 3rd aka Drouin isnurance policy
29 juill. 2022 à 21 h 13
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Whaaaat are you two on about? Every single word he said in that comment is 100% accurate.

Youngsters who don't like it when every pro-Montreal trade isn't treated with overweening approval and every Montreal player isn't evaluated with fawning adoration
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29 juill. 2022 à 21 h 17
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
Youngsters who don't like it when every pro-Montreal trade isn't treated with overweening approval and every Montreal player isn't evaluated with fawning adoration


Nope just someone who likes people who talk hockey and dont need an ego stroke that acting a fool gives him.
You could have made and intelligent point and left it at that
I've seen you do it

You didnt though
Instead you tried to Provoke a Response
Mission Accomplished

Its Called Newtons 3rd Law of Motion
It basically Govern's Reality as we see it
Its like throwing rocks and windows then when one breaks saying "i didnt think they'd break"
Yes you did , it was a conscious choice that boils down to
"For ever Action there is an Equal and Opposite Re-Action "
29 juill. 2022 à 21 h 19
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Nope just someone who likes people who talk hockey and dont need an ego stroke that acting a fool gives him.
You could have made and intelligent point and left it at that
I've seen you do it

You didnt though
Instead you tried to Provoke a Response
Mission Accomplished

Its Called Newtons 3rd Law of Motion
It basically Govern's Reality as we see it
Its like throwing rocks and windows then when one breaks saying "i didnt think they'd break"
Yes you did , it was a conscious choice that boils down to
"For ever Action there is an Equal and Opposite Re-Action "


Well, here's my reaction to your effort to insult me:
29 juill. 2022 à 21 h 28
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Well, here's my reaction to your effort to insult me:


Ego isnt an insult its an observation based on your original Comment which was an insult.
I didnt lower myself to insults as i didnt want you playing the victim
29 juill. 2022 à 22 h 0
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Quoting: Billy739
On this site you have about a 100 GMs all agreeing they're right
Then reality hits and Context comes into play and the first thing we hear
"no one coulda seen that coming "

Strome no getting a QO "who coulda seen that coming "
Tkachuck leaving to got to USA "who coulda see that coming "

Its ALWAYS like that
OldNYIFan for example used to deal in Logical Fact based opinions that werent always over with many people.
Now it's like he gave his account to someone else as its a polar opposite of before.
In the past he'd see a trade and find a way the piece's and the teams could make it work.(kinda like you just did )
Offer logical options and recourse for moving forward

Now its "lets talk smack , use Slander and not talk about actual hockey"
TBH this site's gotten worse for it as its Admin's let anything from Anti LGBTQ slang to outright trolling like LittleJerrySeinfield made an account just for.
Quality has went down and the people on here have seen the standards lowered so they're no longer stepping up as much.

But that's just life
CapGeek was amazing too for about the same period of time
Another new Forum with higher standards will appear and Capfriendly will fade too
Cant stop progress


Not commenting on the rest but capgeek didn't disappear for decline in its quality. It's founder passed away super young from cancer. Sad story
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29 juill. 2022 à 22 h 1
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Quoting: Billy739
Under what conditions does Klingberg sign a 1 year deal?
For the purpose's to be show cased on top and potentially earn a deal in theory right?
Biggest reason is clearly so he can be sold as fluffing his numbers up at the TDL to a Contender IMO

Drouin gives them the same chance as most of Drouins issues are the fact he has to live in MTL
Most French players dont actually handle the pressure well its the Gallaghers, Pitlicks and Caufield's the Camera's love
Unlike the French players they dont pay attention to the language issue as much , they dont have to

My point is Comtois is out
Drouin seem's like a smart piece to add

If its me

Drouin
Ylonen(Top Pro Winger Prospect outside Slavkosky oblviously)
Mysak(i'd rank him similar to Groulx potential but younger)
2nd round pick in 2024 (conditional 1st if Comtois signed 5 years to more )
3rd round pick in 2023 (conditional 2nd if Drouin doesnt play 40 games by seasons end)
for

Comtois
Groulx
5th in 2023

ANA recoops assets , get's a shot at a 1st and can possibly flip Drouin
Even if Drouin craps out A- prospect , B+ Prospect , 2nd that likely will become a 1st if Comtois plays well this season and a 3rd aka Drouin isnurance policy


We didn't have to give up anything for Klingberg, and we had to hit the cap floor. Its a bridge deal because half the league are UFAs next season and he can go out and get the big contract he wants, but yes, we probably try to flip with retention for picks.

Comtois is still an RFA at seasons end, he missed the middle of the season due to an injury, and when he got back we had a host of roster dumps from Pittsburgh to juggle. There is a strong chance he bounces back, and we resign him at seasons end. Not sure how he is "out".

Your trade is based in reality, Drouin rental for two prospects isn't, with Drouin being the only common piece, it makes it a completely different trade. While your trade is based in reality, I don't believe that its in the best interest of the Ducks to give up Comtois for a Drouin rental and a RW prospect. Comtois is the same age range as Zegras and Terry, and is our top young left winger (we have a bit of a hole there). Drouin is a few years older and has a rather significant injury history the last few years missing a lot of games, I'm not sure there is much to pump the tires on there, and then if he doesn't work out for us and we don't resign him, we are left with a hole at left wing that needs to get filled. Yes, the picks are nice to have, but this would delay Anaheim's trajectory. Drouin is the kind of player we need to replace Comtois if we were to move him, but we need someone who will stay healthy and can get into the rough area since Zegras and Terry are both on the smaller side.

Lastly, If french canadian players have such issues playing on the habs/ living in Montreal, why do you want two french canadian players back, one who was born just outside of Montreal?
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29 juill. 2022 à 22 h 1
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Quoting: Billy739
Nope just someone who likes people who talk hockey and dont need an ego stroke that acting a fool gives him.
You could have made and intelligent point and left it at that
I've seen you do it

You didnt though
Instead you tried to Provoke a Response
Mission Accomplished

Its Called Newtons 3rd Law of Motion
It basically Govern's Reality as we see it
Its like throwing rocks and windows then when one breaks saying "i didnt think they'd break"
Yes you did , it was a conscious choice that boils down to
"For ever Action there is an Equal and Opposite Re-Action "




Bruh.... who is the one resorting to personal attacks?

And "Who could have seen Tkachuk leaving Calgary? Who could have seen Strome not getting a QO?"? Well, tons of folks. Stuff like this has been talked about for weeks, if not months. It's been in articles. It's been in intermission report discussions. You can't just forward something totally unreasonable on every level and go "But gosh, some things happen sometimes that are surprising!" - doesn't work that way.
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29 juill. 2022 à 22 h 4
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Quoting: Billy739
Ego isnt an insult its an observation based on your original Comment which was an insult.
I didnt lower myself to insults as i didnt want you playing the victim


Heh. Fun fact: his original post had no personal insult in it. It had a recap of the offer and first reply, a pass, a reason why it's a pass, and finally an accurate summary of how good the offer was for the Ducks.
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29 juill. 2022 à 22 h 14
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Quoting: mokumboi
Heh. Fun fact: his original post had no personal insult in it. It had a recap of the offer and first reply, a pass, a reason why it's a pass, and finally an accurate summary of how good the offer was for the Ducks.


The beauty about Edit buttons is this post was originally Blank
For purpose's that should be obvious now i edited it
The one time i wish i had directly responded to his comment is now
I coulda proved it ..... SOB i almost had him


Dramatic Effect sometimes helps
Eventually he'll pull this on you too
I'll sent some Empathy your way when it happens lol
 
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