This is pretty beneficial for both if Kadri is the plan for CGY.

They still need to sign mangiapane too, and he scored 35 last year

Unfortunately, Monahan's issue is neither coach nor role, it's injuries. His hips are totally busted.

That’s too bad if it is injuries, I think he would be solid between two solid wingers at 2C. If he’s healthy I think it would be worth a risk if we haven’t found anyone and they’re looking to move him

There are some rumors that he may have other issues as well. I hate to even bring it up cuz I have no idea if it's legit, but it's a situation that needs serious diligence.

In any case, I think Calagary needs to pay to move him. Maybe that 2025 1st they got for Tkachuk.

Monahan isn’t the answer to any questions the Avs have. Injuries, lack of production he scored less points than both Compher and Newhook and has 3 consecutive seasons of decreased production during his 25, 26 and age 27 years. It isn’t going to get better with him.

I'd definitely take that risk than

Fair enough, just trying to think beyond compher at 2c or a Stastny signing

It makes it look more appealing for sure, but having a boat anchor contract in a year they're trying to repeat isn't super desirable. I have no idea if I'm accurate on that sweetener either. That's what it would take to get me thinking though.

7 words. Alex Newhook try it you will like

From what I've seen I do not like it as much as I did 2 years ago

33pts as a rookie playing on the 3rd line. It wouldn’t be unrealistic to expect a jump just from year 1 to 2. Throw in playing with high end wingers like Landeskog and Lehkonen and regular PP2 minutes it’s not that big of a leap to think he scores 50pts, and I mean 50pts is 50pts but 50pts on an elc is special. And think about it this way Newhook at last years rate scores ONE more point every five games that’s 50. Personally I think he has 70pt potential but that’s just me.

Calgary wouldn't trade a 1st to move him. They can resign kylington and mangiapane with the cap space remaining. It's not ideal, but they would as it's 1 year left. It really just depends on his recovery. If he is actually healthy again, great. If not, he will be moved to LTIR.

Sure, I agree. It would have to be in the circumstance where they sign Kadri. I should have made that clear. And as I said later in the thread, I have no idea if that's the cost to move his contract. Considering how difficult it is to move money these days, seems like it could be a reasonable ask in such a situation.

Like others have said, his body has gave out on him.

If someone wanted to take a flyer on him, he could be had for essentially free.

If healthy, he would be a great addition to Colorado, and maybe a pick to cover the retained salary. Might be hard to swing that during the offseason, without seeing him skate and play again. I like the trade for both otherwise. Colorado really just needs a serviceable Kadri replacement. Personally, I don't want the flames to sign Kadri. It will be for too much, and too long to be of benefit.

If I'm an Avs fan, I don't *hate* the idea of getting a veteran (like a healthy Sean Monahan) as a backup plan for 2C in case Newhook needs a little more sheltering while he develops.

I also honestly don't know enough about the depth chart there - would Compher and Helm be 3C and 4C if Newhook slid up to 2C? Because I'm not the hugest fan of that bottom 6 if that's the case.

they could fill the 2c by committee until the TDL if they wanted. Newhook, Meyers, Compher...maybe look at Rantanen spot duty 2C for a bit. IT could be done
I would rather they do that, try and sign another guy to fit that spot duty in Stastny or Evan Rodriques. Acrue cap space during the season and try to add a Vet C at the deadline.

Ive been partial to the idea of Adam Henrique as a trade target at the deadline. If they ducks continue to retool with youth, he would be a guy, or similar, that the Avs should look at

Moving Newhook 2C means you have have 4 of 6 from the bottom 6 that won the cup plus Meyers + fill in the blank. I like Newhook at 2C because it allows him to play into the role with high end wingers and allow the Avs to accrue a lot of cap space so they can make a move and not have to overpay because of retention. Remember the Avs are now in win Cup modes and the playoffs matter more than anything.

For me I don’t get how Meyers is an option at 2C. Newhook was a 33pt rookie at 13.5 TOI, the same rate at 17 TOI is 51pts. Let Landy shepherd him like he did with MacK. But that’s me.

they played LOC on the top line when they had to, all its saying they have C options on the roster currently to spot fill depending on what lines are going. I think Newhook at 2C will just be fine, I have no issues with him and think he will be very solid in an elevated role

*Were totally busted. It would defeat the purpose of replacement surgery if they still are

Makes a ton of sense if they can get the right trade made. I think Monahan has a major chip on his shoulder this year and if he can stay healthy will definitely bounce back. He is not as bad as he has shown the past year. Maybe not 80 point good anymore but certainly not 20 point bad either. He's a sneaky good pickup for a team that can elevate him a little.

I don't understand all these ACGM'ers trying to reinvent the wheel. Just play Newhook at 2C. Joe knows he has until the trade deadline to upgrade if he needs to. Any move at that point can be made with both Stanley Cup aspirations AND next years MacKinnon, Bowen and Newhook contracts in mind.

There's a huge difference between fixing busted hips to a normal life-living level, and being able to return to an elite sport. The purpose of replacement surgery is not "he's going to be 100% back to his former NHL self".