sharks are also cap strapped and cant afford Dadenov and if we could we would have offered to grab him before Vegas,
And you got incentivized to take him and are getting incentivized to deal him how is this reasonable?

Hoffman can’t play with Barzal

Gonna take a helluva lot more than that to get Girard.

Girard was a minus on a cup winning team and only put up like 20 pts on the back end as a puck mover in the top 4. He isn't worth that much.

colorado counters with their their 4th to get barron back

funny you would want to bring in a guy for top pairing minutes who you think is worthless

cgy 1st, mtl 3rd and guhle/barron for girard.

Isles are already trying to dump Bailey, Hoffman does not make sense as he would not replace anyone in the top-9.

new team, new environment. Girard is also french. COL couldnt utilize him properly.

He put up almost 30 points, and missed time. And he's only 24. He's worth much more than you're offering. Just look at what Romanov got you guys.

They've utilized him fine, he had one average season and got hurt in playoffs. Other than that he played top minutes when makar was injured during regular season and is a consistent top 4 in our lineup. Might be time to watch a couple games if you're going to criticize the guy

He was the biggest defensive liability on colorado's back end and is abysmal in front of the net. he slotted when there were injuries because he's next on the depth chart. COL doesn't need him as they have other players who are better defensively who can still move the puck. Girard is extremely overrated but would fit into what MTL needs. definitely not worth what COL fans are pricing him at.

Lol just abysmal infront of the net, extremely overrated, and a defensive liability but montreal could change him into a top pairing guy without flaws?
figure it out

yes, that is exactly what im saying??? terrible defensively but gifted offensively, exactly what MTL needs for their PP. COL won a cup primarily without him (only played 7 games in the playoffs). MTL could develop him in their top 4 whereas with the emergence of Byram pushes colorado's hand. colorado doesn't really need girard anymore.

Dadanov and Hoffman cost to dump at least a 2nd each and nowhere close to get girard

+- is pointless so idk what ur talkin bout

Hoffman is probably a dump. Allen most certainly is not.

If you’re using +/- to defend your case, you might as well give up. It’s a useless stat that does not define a player in the slightest

That doesn’t mean COL is trading him for anything less than they want and the piling heap of crap you are offering gets laughed at. You really think COL is going to trade a 24yr old puck moving dman locked up long term who produces 30 pts season in season out and always averages 20 plus minutes of ice for a kid just drafted smaller than Girard and a 4th round pick. Yeah go ahead and a 1st rd pick to it and COL still says no. Literally thinking that the franchise that literally sucked worse than everybody else is somehow going to not only make Girard better but convince the Stanley cup champions to take a bad deal is beyond hilarious.

SJ would have to send someone over to take on Dadonov since they're just about as cap strapped as MTL... e.g. Labanc, Simek

If Mike Hoffman is a cap dump, why are the Islanders sending back a 3rd for him? Typically a player you call a "cap dump" is someone you'd attach an asset to in order to get their contract off your cap.

Isles aren't going to give up a 3rd for 2x$4.5M of Mike Hoffman. I don't think any team in the league would currently give up any sort of positive asset for him - you could easily sign a guy like Sonny Milano or Evan Rodrigues to give you the same production Hoffman gives you, likely at a lower cap hit, and without having to take on a soon-to-be 33 year old goalscorer who forgot how to score goals.

Hilarious that you say Hoffman is a cap dump and then proceed to get a 3rd for him. Hoffman at this point wouldn't even make the Islanders NHL roster let alone play with Barzal. He put up his career-worst numbers, is 32, and makes 4.5 AAV for the next 2 years.