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Anaheim Ducks signed John Klingberg (1 Year / $7,000,000 AAV)

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29 juill. à 16 h 36
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Hire Gudbranson's agent!!!


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29 juill. à 16 h 38
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He gone at the deadline
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Aside: seems like this opens the door for a shattenkirk trade, no?


I doubt it since they have to stay above the cap floor, unless they sign someone like kadri
29 juill. à 16 h 47
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Klingberg is a great offensive defenseman but I do not see him as someone who a lot of teams are going to commit massive term and salary to. Very him more as a better version of Tyson Barrie.

He's doing what Taylor Hall did when a couldn't get a team to give him a long contract: go to a place that isn't looking to compete, hopefully do well and get moved at a trade deadline, then get extended by that team. Smart move, but I'd reckon his next contract would depend a lot on how much the cap goes up; I can't see any contenders offering 7 million on a multi year deal.
29 juill. à 16 h 49
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Highly overrated and overvalued by the hockey media heading into UFA. Good for these GM's to finally realize that handing out massive, long term contracts to aging D's is almost always a big mistake.
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29 juill. à 16 h 52
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oooooof man i was gonna be all like "klinger's agent needs the door" until i saw that he was a minus player for the last three seasons


Also he literally already fired an agent
29 juill. à 16 h 53
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Genius move... this is what happens when you manage the cap and are patient. A team that had virtually no chance of getting Klingberg, just signed him to a 1 year do with 0 risk whatsoever. Free #2 defender and will get a boat load should they choose to trade him at the TD
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Gibson is gonna have his work cut out for him with Fowler, Shattenkirk, Drysdale, and Klingberg on the blue line.


Isn't fowler actually defensively responsible though?
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Why just one year? Doesn't Klinger realize that he's not helping his case for scoring a long-term contract by heading back to free agency next off-season only a year older?
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Quoting: Knuckl3s
Why just one year? Doesn't Klinger realize that he's not helping his case for scoring a long-term contract by heading back to free agency next off-season only a year older?


He's hoping he can prove himself to actually be worth a $6 million AAV on a multi-year contract. There are GM's out there that will give him that if he has a big year, especially if he gets traded to a team at the deadline and then lights it up for them in the playoffs a la Kyle Palmieri.
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Quoting: PointStamkosVasilevskiy219188
He's hoping he can prove himself to actually be worth a $6 million AAV on a multi-year contract. There are GM's out there that will give him that if he has a big year, especially if he gets traded to a team at the deadline and then lights it up for them in the playoffs a la Kyle Palmieri.


I can see maybe a 3 x 6M or 4 x 6M if he plays well enough for the Ducks, but nothing more
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Quoting: Knuckl3s
I can see maybe a 3 x 6M or 4 x 6M if he plays well enough for the Ducks, but nothing more


That sounds about right (but watch Chuck Fletcher offer him 7 X 7M after this year)
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That sounds about right (but watch Chuck Fletcher offer him 7 X 7M after this year)


LOL, I doubt it, not with DeAngelo, Ristolainen, and Ellis all on the books. Oh wait, not even! Fletcher won't even BE the Flyers GM after next season WILL HE?!
29 juill. à 17 h 1
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LOL, I doubt it, not with DeAngelo, Ristolainen, and Ellis all on the books. Oh wait, not even! Fletcher won't even BE the Flyers GM after next season WILL HE?!


For the Flyers' sake, I certainly hope not.
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For the Flyers' sake, I certainly hope not.


I would almost guarantee it. If the Flyers miss the playoffs next year, I don't see how Fletcher remains GM
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I would almost guarantee it. If the Flyers miss the playoffs next year, I don't see how Fletcher remains GM


Agreed. He should've been fired after this year (if not already the year before that). It's incredible that he still has the job.
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Agreed. He should've been fired after this year (if not already the year before that). It's incredible that he still has the job.


I mean, Ownership looks at their business asset from a different perspective than fans do. It can take more to convince an ownership group to make an extreme pivot and go in a new direction cause they aren't going to be as reactionary as the fans will be
29 juill. à 17 h 10
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I don't think this is a good signing for either the Ducks or Klingberg.

Ducks: yes they reach the cap floor but they could have done that AND gained future assets via trade with all the teams looking to dump contracts; and they could have done it with contracts that were less than the AAV from a salary paid perspective. Additionally the TOI that Klingberg needs to "have high trade value" is going to come at the expense of Drysdale or Klinger has to settle for 2nd Pair and PP2 duties on a team that is thin at talent.

This is also why I think it is a bad deal for Klingberg: the premise that he can showcase his talent to leverage a trade deadline deal assumes that Anaheim will be a good incubator for his skills and that could be flawed. There were better places to go for this.
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Quoting: Knuckl3s
I mean, Ownership looks at their business asset from a different perspective than fans do. It can take more to convince an ownership group to make an extreme pivot and go in a new direction cause they aren't going to be as reactionary as the fans will be


And they shouldn't be, fans react too quickly and easily. But it doesn't take much to see that Fletcher (and possibly the Flyers ownership as well) are delusional in thinking that they can still contend-they need to rebuild, but they're not admitting it. Even worse, they're digging the hole deeper and deeper with each move (Tortorella hiring, Ristolainen extension, DeAngelo trade, Deslauriers signing).
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And they shouldn't be, fans react too quickly and easily. But it doesn't take much to see that Fletcher (and possibly the Flyers ownership as well) are delusional in thinking that they can still contend-they need to rebuild, but they're not admitting it. Even worse, they're digging the hole deeper and deeper with each move (Tortorella hiring, Ristolainen extension, DeAngelo trade, Deslauriers signing).


I mean us die-hard hockey fans are all smart enough to see that Fletcher and co. aren't capable of improving the situation, but again, Ownership aren't hockey people/hockey minds, so why should they be as well informed as we are? There is a reason they employ a management team to manage their business asset to begin with
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Quoting: Knuckl3s
I mean us die-hard hockey fans are all smart enough to see that Fletcher and co. aren't capable of improving the situation, but again, Ownership aren't hockey people/hockey minds, so why should they be as well informed as we are? There is a reason they employ a management team to manage their business asset to begin with


I don't think it takes a die-hard hockey fan to see how awful Fletcher is, it's plain to see. But hey, maybe Flyers ownership is just that stupid.
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I don't think it takes a die-hard hockey fan to see how awful Fletcher is, it's plain to see. But hey, maybe Flyers ownership is just that stupid.


Why should an ownership group be as well versed in the valuations of players like Ristolainen and Deslauriers as we are? Serious question
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Quoting: Knuckl3s
Why should an ownership group be as well versed in the valuations of players like Ristolainen and Deslauriers as we are? Serious question


Some ownerships are (at least somewhat) invested in the game, and some are not. The Flyers' ownership seems to be squarely in the latter category (at least, that's the way it appears when you let your employees hire Torterella, extend Ristolainen, and sign Deslauriers for 4 years).
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Looked very dubious until I saw the term. Smart business from Anaheim - might net them a 1st+ at the TDL. This is what a team in their situation should do.
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Klingberg is a great offensive defenseman but I do not see him as someone who a lot of teams are going to commit massive term and salary to. Very him more as a better version of Tyson Barrie.

He's doing what Taylor Hall did when a couldn't get a team to give him a long contract: go to a place that isn't looking to compete, hopefully do well and get moved at a trade deadline, then get extended by that team. Smart move, but I'd reckon his next contract would depend a lot on how much the cap goes up; I can't see any contenders offering 7 million on a multi year deal.


I think Rielly is a better comparable than Barrie
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