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We have a winner in the MILLER AUCTION CHALLENGE

Créé par: alwaysnextyear
Équipe: 2022-23 Canucks de Vancouver
Date de création initiale: 29 juill. 2022
Publié: 29 juill. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
VAN has probably missed the boat on getting maximum return on Miller (last deadline or the draft were probably the two prime opportunities).

But if Allvin comes out publicly and states that they're selling off Miller (50% retained) to the highest bidder in the next week, I wonder what the best offers would look like. At only $2.625m salary for an entire season rental, there should be a lot of suitors. My guess would be somewhere in the ballpark of;

- 1st or similar level prospect
- 2nd or similar level prospect
- useful, mid-tier, youngish player to offset the salary (if the player is more of a cap-dump then another pick might be acquired)

SEND YOUR BEST OFFER FROM YOUR TEAM AND LET'S SEE WHO WINS THE AUCTION!!


OFFERS SUBMITTED;

1) JT Miller (50%) for;
2024 1st (CBJ), Luca Del Bel Belluz, Andrew Peeke, Jake Bean

2) JT Miller for;
Damon Severson (with permission to negotiate extension, NJD 2nd (2023)

3) JT Miller (50%), Luke Schenn for
2023 1st (TOR), 2024 2nd (TOR), Topi Niemela, Alex Kerfoot

4) Miller for;
2023 2nd (DET), Filip Hronek, Pius Suter, Jared McIsaac

THE WINNER IS.... The Columbus Blue Jackets! offered by The_Cannon.
Honorable mention to TMLBRIAN for the Maple Leafs offer, which would've also been acceptable (with perhaps a bit of tweaking on the retention).
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VAN
  1. Bean, Jake
  2. Del Bel Belluz, Luca [Liste de réserve]
  3. Peeke, Andrew
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (CBJ)
CBJ
  1. Miller, J.T. (2 625 000 $ retained)
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2382 500 000 $80 185 000 $1 250 000 $2 000 000 $2 315 000 $
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3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
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891 667 $891 667 $ (Bonis de performance300 000 $$300K)
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Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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7 850 000 $7 850 000 $
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
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7 260 000 $7 260 000 $
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NMC
UFA - 5
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787 500 $787 500 $
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762 500 $762 500 $
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2 333 333 $2 333 333 $
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850 000 $850 000 $
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
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UFA - 1
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2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
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Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AG, AD
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UFA - 1

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29 juill. 2022 à 14 h 34
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Is this the Canucks GM in disguise trying to figure out what kinda value Miller has??
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29 juill. 2022 à 14 h 35
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Quoting: DangleCat
Is this the Canucks GM in disguise trying to figure out what kinda value Miller has??


Haha, you found me out...
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29 juill. 2022 à 14 h 37
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"VAN has probably missed the boat on getting maximum return on Miller (last deadline or the draft were probably the two prime opportunities)."

They might have missed it at the deadline but at the draft I don't think they got an offer that would have sent them a significant package that couldn't be matched now or later.

"But if Allvin comes out publicly and states that they're selling off Miller (50% retained) to the highest bidder in the next week, I wonder what the best offers would look like. At only $2.625m salary for an entire season rental, there should be a lot of suitors. My guess would be somewhere in the ballpark of;

- 1st or similar level prospect
- 2nd or similar level prospect
- useful, mid-tier, youngish player to offset the salary (if the player is more of a cap-dump then another pick might be acquired)"


That's probably more or less the same package they could get now, they would just get more potential suitors but not necessarily more.
29 juill. 2022 à 14 h 38
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Jackets 2024 first, del bel belluz, peeke and nyquist.
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29 juill. 2022 à 14 h 39
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Quoting: DangleCat
Is this the Canucks GM in disguise trying to figure out what kinda value Miller has??


More like an AGM or pro scout of an interested team.
29 juill. 2022 à 14 h 45
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Jackets 2024 first, del bel belluz, peeke and nyquist.


1st offer on the board!
29 juill. 2022 à 14 h 55
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Severson + 2nd round pick
(No retention, talk all you want about extension)
29 juill. 2022 à 15 h 8
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Quoting: The_Cannon
Jackets 2024 first, del bel belluz, peeke and nyquist.


I'd be happy with that. Saw Del Bel Belluz play a couple times this season, he's a great player.
29 juill. 2022 à 15 h 11
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Jackets 2024 first, del bel belluz, peeke and nyquist.


With Gus included the cap might not work for VAN. Would you be willing to do the same deal with no retention on Miller?
29 juill. 2022 à 15 h 16
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Toronto 2013 First, Topi Niemela, Kerfoot, 2024 Second for Miller (50%) and Schenn
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29 juill. 2022 à 16 h 6
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Red wings - Filip Hronek, Pius Suter, Jared McIsaac, and 2023 2nd
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29 juill. 2022 à 16 h 46
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Quoting: alwaysnextyear
With Gus included the cap might not work for VAN. Would you be willing to do the same deal with no retention on Miller?


Figured no retention on Miller hence the inclusion. How about Miller half retained and we keep nyquist and swap him out with bean.
29 juill. 2022 à 16 h 51
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Figured no retention on Miller hence the inclusion. How about Miller half retained and we keep nyquist and swap him out with bean.


I like that even more. Should I change your bid in the description?
29 juill. 2022 à 17 h 4
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I like that even more. Should I change your bid in the description?


Yes I would be ok for the new offer. Bean instead of nyquist.
29 juill. 2022 à 17 h 11
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
Severson + 2nd round pick
(No retention, talk all you want about extension)


Garbage offer
29 juill. 2022 à 17 h 11
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Quoting: North_Kariya
Red wings - Filip Hronek, Pius Suter, Jared McIsaac, and 2023 2nd


Horrible offer, and Suter is a rental
29 juill. 2022 à 17 h 12
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Toronto 2013 First, Topi Niemela, Kerfoot, 2024 Second for Miller (50%) and Schenn


Did you mean their 2023 1st? That offer will get you Miller, but not Schenn along with him
29 juill. 2022 à 17 h 18
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Garbage offer


Do I even what to know what you think of mine? Lol
29 juill. 2022 à 17 h 20
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Do I even what to know what you think of mine?


Yours is better than the others that were presented. 1st, del bel belluz, Peeke, and Bean doesn't look too bad from my view
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29 juill. 2022 à 17 h 36
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Horrible offer, and Suter is a rental


Miller is a rental
29 juill. 2022 à 20 h 3
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Toronto 2013 First, Topi Niemela, Kerfoot, 2024 Second for Miller (50%) and Schenn


If that is a 2023 1st then Vancouver accepts.
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29 juill. 2022 à 20 h 8
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Miller is a rental


The fact of the matter is, the Canucks aren't in the business of ACQUIRING rentals, only trading them away. Think about their situation and needs before you fire back like that
29 juill. 2022 à 20 h 51
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The fact of the matter is, the Canucks aren't in the business of ACQUIRING rentals, only trading them away. Think about their situation and needs before you fire back like that


They are in the business of lowering their cap while remaining competitive, from what I have read from the new GM.

Makes no difference to me what they do.
29 juill. 2022 à 20 h 56
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They are in the business of lowering their cap while remaining competitive, from what I have read from the new GM.

Makes no difference to me what they do.


Yes, but as long as they're cap complaint, they're not going to give up significant value in a trade to do create more cap flexibility
29 juill. 2022 à 21 h 8
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Yes, but as long as they're cap complaint, they're not going to give up significant value in a trade to do create more cap flexibility


Tell that to Dylan Guenther
 
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