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2021-2022 NHL Offseason Discussion Thread #10 - Kadri oh Kadri, wherefore art thou Kadri?

9 août 2022 à 14 h 24
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Kadri would look so good in Calgary . Make it happen Treliving . Then trade Tanev to Ottawa for a 2nd round pick. Thank you
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9 août 2022 à 15 h 4
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If Nemec somehow makes the team, get ready for :
Chabot-Severson
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9 août 2022 à 15 h 4
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Quoting: Devil
Im hearing two different reports

Did Kadri sign with the Islanders (and the contract isn't annouced yet) or did they just offer the contract to Kadri?


I mean, if he goes for money, I can't see a team making a bigger offer than NYI with 7x7
9 août 2022 à 15 h 6
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@Db1899

Mind pulling up a Jack Hughes vs Elias Pettersson RAPM charts?
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9 août 2022 à 15 h 27
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Quoting: HockeyScotty
Are the rookies expected to make the lineup? I really am excited for the Sens future but is yhis the year that they turn over the defense to them?

Sanderson is expected to be the 2LD. I hope Thomson or JBD has a great camp and can win a RD job, because having Zaitsev out of the lineup for literally anyone quite drastically improves our team. I also would rather watch a young guy with upside and that is capable of doing good things make mistakes as he learns, rather than watch Hamonic, who I know will just make mistakes and not contribute much of value at all. Ideally we get another top 4 RD and Thomson or JBD are pushing Hamonic out of the lineup, rather than Zaitsev. I wouldn’t be surprised if our starting lineup was Chabot-Hamonic / Sanderson-Zub / Holden-Zaitsev though, with Brannstrom scratched.

Up front, Pinto is a lock for 3C between Joseph and Formenton. The only 4th line spot that is likely set in stone is Watson on RW. Kelly will likely be the favourite to take the LW slot over Hawryluk, although I think Reinhardt may surprise people and earn some games. Kastelic and Gambrell will fight for the 4C job. Greig, Lodin, and Sokolov are all in the category of deserving a look, but likely won’t stick around long so they can log big minutes in the AHL.
9 août 2022 à 15 h 28
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Quoting: Alfie11
Sanderson is expected to be the 2LD. I hope Thomson or JBD has a great camp and can win a RD job, because having Zaitsev out of the lineup for literally anyone quite drastically improves our team. I also would rather watch a young guy with upside and that is capable of doing good things make mistakes as he learns, rather than watch Hamonic, who I know will just make mistakes and not contribute much of value at all. Ideally we get another top 4 RD and Thomson or JBD are pushing Hamonic out of the lineup, rather than Zaitsev. I wouldn’t be surprised if our starting lineup was Chabot-Hamonic / Sanderson-Zub / Holden-Zaitsev though, with Brannstrom scratched.

Up front, Pinto is a lock for 3C between Joseph and Formenton. The only 4th line spot that is likely set in stone is Watson on RW. Kelly will likely be the favourite to take the LW slot over Hawryluk, although I think Reinhardt may surprise people and earn some games. Kastelic and Gambrell will fight for the 4C job. Greig, Lodin, and Sokolov are all in the category of deserving a look, but likely won’t stick around long so they can log big minutes in the AHL.


As is, this is a hot take but Brannstrom or Holden needs to play their offside with Chabot and the other plays 3LD .
9 août 2022 à 15 h 28
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Quoting: Devil
Im hearing two different reports

Did Kadri sign with the Islanders (and the contract isn't annouced yet) or did they just offer the contract to Kadri?


Quoting: UpsideDownQue
I believe they have only offered the contract


Actually im not sure, I didnt see this part until now



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9 août 2022 à 15 h 32
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Quoting: csick
As is, this is a hot take but Brannstrom or Holden needs to play their offside with Chabot and the other plays 3LD .

Bold of you to assume Chabot isn’t just gonna play 50 minutes, 10 with each guy, and then Zub+Sanderson get the last 10
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9 août 2022 à 15 h 32
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Quoting: Db1899
Offered. Calgary still wants to sign him


Considering he nixxed a trade to Calgary a few years ago I think we unfortunately end up with his contract
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9 août 2022 à 15 h 33
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Quoting: AndrewLadd
Considering he nixxed a trade to Calgary a few years ago I think we unfortunately end up with his contract


Wasn’t that only because he didn’t want to leave TOR
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9 août 2022 à 15 h 34
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Quoting: AndrewLadd
Considering he nixxed a trade to Calgary a few years ago I think we unfortunately end up with his contract


I would love for Calgary to sign him or Nemec to make the team in NJ. That way Ottawa can get a Flames Dman or Severson for cheaper
9 août 2022 à 15 h 35
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Considering he nixxed a trade to Calgary a few years ago I think we unfortunately end up with his contract

He’s confirmed that was purely because he wanted to stay in Toronto, not because he didn’t want to go to Calgary. Regardless, we only have 2.6mil in cap space (if we move/lose Valimaki) right now lol (and it’s very difficult to move bad money at the moment, so I’m not sure Treliving is too interested in that).
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9 août 2022 à 15 h 37
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Quoting: Juiceman
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Mind pulling up a Jack Hughes vs Elias Pettersson RAPM charts?


Are you seriously using stats of an teenager Jack Hughes to show that Pettersson is better than him? It doesn't take rocket science to know that Hughes is gonna be a star in the NHL. Using takes like "0.65 points per game" and "Hughes had 7 goals as a rookie while Pettersson won the Calder" is obnoxious. If you actually watched Hughes instead of cherry picking stats, you would know he didn't have "49 good games". Lost alot of respect from me with your Canucks bias and one sided takes
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9 août 2022 à 15 h 37
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He’s confirmed that was purely because he wanted to stay in Toronto, not because he didn’t want to go to Calgary. Regardless, we only have 2.6mil in cap space (if we move/lose Valimaki) right now lol (and it’s very difficult to move bad money at the moment, so I’m not sure Treliving is too interested in that).


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9 août 2022 à 15 h 49
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Are you seriously using stats of an teenager Jack Hughes to show that Pettersson is better than him? It doesn't take rocket science to know that Hughes is gonna be a star in the NHL. Using takes like "0.65 points per game" and "Hughes had 7 goals as a rookie while Pettersson won the Calder" is obnoxious. If you actually watched Hughes instead of cherry picking stats, you would know he didn't have "49 good games". Lost alot of respect from me with your Canucks bias and one sided takes


No. Just wanna know over the past 3 years since a Devils fan said that Hughes has much better analytics than Pettersson

If you’re talking about my argument with another person, you should know context to it. It all started when one Devils fan called Hoglander, Podkolzin, two firsts, and a second round pick scrap parts saying how they aren’t valuable and are middling players. They then want on to say how even Pettersson isn’t enough. Now a new Devils fan is trying to convince me saying that Hughes is much better than Pettersson but is not backing their statement up with anything, hence me asking Db1899 for stats so I can actually compare the two players. I argue with my brain, they argued with their heart
9 août 2022 à 15 h 51
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Just curious: is nobody watching the WJC? If so, is that because of complete lack of interest, or simply waiting until the USA/Canada games?
9 août 2022 à 15 h 52
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Quoting: PointStamkosVasilevskiy219188
Just curious: is nobody watching the WJC? If so, is that because of complete lack of interest, or simply waiting until the USA/Canada games?


I honestly forgot that it was even on.
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9 août 2022 à 15 h 54
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Just curious: is nobody watching the WJC? If so, is that because of complete lack of interest, or simply waiting until the USA/Canada games?

Where can you even watch it? Are they even steaming it?
9 août 2022 à 15 h 55
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Where can you even watch it? Are they even steaming it?


Yes, on TSN (in Canada) or NHL Network (in the USA)

(I'm watching it on the latter using a free trial on FuboTV)
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9 août 2022 à 15 h 56
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No. Just wanna know over the past 3 years since a Devils fan said that Hughes has much better analytics than Pettersson

If you’re talking about my argument with another person, you should know context to it. It all started when one Devils fan called Hoglander, Podkolzin, two firsts, and a second round pick scrap parts saying how they aren’t valuable and are middling players. They then want on to say how even Pettersson isn’t enough. Now a new Devils fan is trying to convince me saying that Hughes is much better than Pettersson but is not backing their statement up with anything, hence me asking Db1899 for stats so I can actually compare the two players. I argue with my brain, they argued with their heart


Unfortunately Noah Dobson will never be a Canuck
9 août 2022 à 15 h 57
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Unfortunately Noah Dobson will never be a Canuck


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If we didn’t get Hughes in 2018, I wanted Dobson and so did a lot of Canucks fans frown
9 août 2022 à 15 h 59
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Quoting: Juiceman
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If we didn’t get Hughes in 2018, I wanted Dobson and so did a lot of Canucks fans frown


I wouldn’t complain ab drafting Hughes tho lol
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9 août 2022 à 16 h 1
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No. Just wanna know over the past 3 years since a Devils fan said that Hughes has much better analytics than Pettersson

If you’re talking about my argument with another person, you should know context to it. It all started when one Devils fan called Hoglander, Podkolzin, two firsts, and a second round pick scrap parts saying how they aren’t valuable and are middling players. They then want on to say how even Pettersson isn’t enough. Now a new Devils fan is trying to convince me saying that Hughes is much better than Pettersson but is not backing their statement up with anything, hence me asking Db1899 for stats so I can actually compare the two players. I argue with my brain, they argued with their heart


Pettersson's best year in 2019-20. Useless to compare to Hughes since he was a rookie.

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Pettersson and Hughes in 2020-21. Their first year as "equals", although hindered by Pettersson's health issues.

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Pettersson and Hughes in 2021-22. Hughes getting better, Pettersson struggling, although this time Hughes had his health issues.

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9 août 2022 à 16 h 2
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I wouldn’t complain ab drafting Hughes tho lol


Me neither. Absolute steal. Wish Jim Benning actually traded for picks than trade them away. The only good d man we have drafted in recent memory is Hughes. Juolevi was a massive whiff. Still dreaming about what life would like if we drafted literally any of the players that were picked after Juolevi
9 août 2022 à 16 h 2
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Pettersson's best year in 2019-20. Useless to compare to Hughes since he was a rookie.

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Pettersson and Hughes in 2020-21. Their first year as "equals"

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Pettersson and Hughes in 2021-22. Hughes getting better, Pettersson struggling.

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What about combined first 3 years
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