No reason to trade Garland for that. Not sure if the Canucks would move a 1st, but that’s probably a strong offer in that hypothetical

If they were trading Barzal, it would be for picks/prospects/young players, not a soon to be washed up JT miller

It would start with Lekerimaki and a 1st

Did you think Tkachuk was going for Huberdeau +?

Long term cap space plus recovering some picks. Either he or Boeser would be the odd man out as soon as next year.

I didn’t think Florida was going for Tkachuk, but if they were in rumors than yes I would assume Huberdeau was going to be included. Going by what Treliviing has said over the past couple of weeks, he still wants to contend

If Huberdeau can be the centerpiece of a Tkachuk trade then why can't Miller be the centerpiece of a Barzal trade? Barzal has scored less than Miller in each of the last three years and scored less than Tkachuk this year. The Canucks are also giving up a cost-controlled middle-6 winger instead of a rental defenseman, a better 2023 1st and an additional 2nd.

How do you know NYI wouldn't want to stay competitive?

The Beauvillier and a 1st for Anderson trades were more reasonable than this garbage.

Stay competitive by getting older and slower... trading a controllable asset for one about to hit free agency.

Did you not see that in this scenario Barzal requests a trade?

I’d do the Garland trade

I’ve never seen a fan base feel entitled like canucks fans, this entire offseason you expect the isles to essentially give you Barzal and Dobson for declining assets. It’s embarrassing

If you want to trade for Barzal, a YOUNG top line player or A prospect needs to be in the trade. This trade proposal doesn’t have either -

Again, in this scenario Barzal requests a trade. That changes the entire dynamic. Otherwise there's no chance Barzal is moved.

If Barzal is traded to the Canucks, it would be for Lekerimakki, Garland, and a 1st. Similar to the Eichel trade

If the Islanders would prefer that kind of package then I would take that trade.

Weegar is worth way more than hoglander. Plus huberdeau is younger than miller and significantly better. Barzal is also a C not a W which adds to his value.

Weegar is a pending UFA, but he is worth more than Hoglander. Hoglander is still a pretty good piece for any team though. Our 1st is also a much better piece that Florida's and we also included a 2nd.

Huberdeau and Miller are the same age. Huberdeau plays a more skill based game while Miller is more of a powerforward, but both are capable of putting up high end numbers. Huberdeau has outscored Miller by a little bit the last two years, but Miller is also a center which drives up his value. Your argument sounds ill advised, extreme and based in nothing besides what you feel.

Barzal is a center, but again, in this HYPOTHETICAL scenario, he requests a trade to a certain number of teams. That completely changes the dynamic.

The Barzal trade is fair but that Garland trade is terrible, also, EP40 is better than Barzal, he'd stay as the 1C. Finally, why the hell is OEL in PP1 instead of Hughes?

Garland is worth more than that and Brett Connolly is his replacement? Dude couldn't even make the Blackhawks lineup last year

Barzal is a 60pt player, not a 100pt player like Tketchup. Also Barzal's numbers are trending downwards each year.

VAN already has their top centers sorted, so I think VAN would be unlikely to have enough interest to trade this much for Barzal.

With respect to this being compared to the Tketchup trade...the major difference in your trade is that Miller has an extension and Huberdeau didn't. That would make Miller a lot more valuable than Huberdeau in a trade (even though Huberdeau is a better player than Miller).

I'm sure the 2.5 months age difference will have a big impact on their decline!

Huberdeau is a better player but Miller with an extension is worth a lot more than Huberdeau for 1-year without an extension

Also important to note that Huberdeau has been terrible in the playoffs, he's a regular season kind of player

My bad i though there was like 2 years between them. Shouldve checked though thats on me

Yeah but considering barzal has more trade value than miller the added value of him being a C is more than the added value of miller being a C. Also miller is more able to play C than is a C as hes played much more W over the last few seasons. And weegar has been a legit top pair D the last 2-3 years he has much more value than hoglander and a 2nd.

I was comparing Miller to Huberdeau. Barzal and Miller are both centers, so no added value for their position in this case.

I've said it a bunch of times already, but in this hypothetical scenario where Barzal requests a trade to a limited number of teams, his value takes a considerable hit.

Thats very true. My point with the C value was just that the added value that barzy has over tkachuk bc hes a C is more than the added value that miller has over huberdeau bc hes a C.

And realize one other thing, i never said if i thought in this hypothetical its a good deal or a bad deal. My single issue was the comparison to the tkachuk package.