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Im I the only one who think this is a good trade for both teams

Créé par: TheRealisticGuy
Date de création initiale: 23 juill. 2022
Publié: 23 juill. 2022
Équipe: 2022-23 Panthers de la Floride
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Huberdeau wants to play in MTL apparently (says it too his close friends) so let’s say he didn’t want to extend there, they would have lost him for nothing. Extension talks with Weegar didn’t went well so he wasn’t coming back. Again, they would have lost him for nothing. So now, they get a top line LW for 8 years but they are trading 2 let’s say rental (for a year) players for a long terms guy … + a 1st RD pick but hey ! it’s Matthews Tkachuk. (And a prospect)

CGY gets a 1st and a prospect, they will probably flip Huberdeau and Weegar at the TDL for another 1st from each and prospects. So CGY will probably get 3 1st RD pick and at least 3 prospects maybe more

MTL get Huberdeau summer 2023 lol
MTL get PLD summer 2024 lol

FLO needs to get rid of Hornqvist … I did a buyout but they should trade his full cap hit
Rachats de contrats
  • Keith Yandle: 5 391 667 $
  • Scott Darling: 1 183 333 $
  • Patric Hörnqvist: 1 766 667 $
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2024
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2382 500 000 $81 500 001 $637 500 $2 700 000 $999 999 $
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Verhaeghe, Carter
4 166 667 $
AG, C
UFA - 3
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Barkov, Aleksander
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UFA - 8
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Tkachuk, Matthew
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Lundell, Anton
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C, AG
RFA - 2
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Bennett, Sam
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UFA - 3
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Reinhart, Sam
6 500 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
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Cousins, Nick
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AG, C
UFA - 2
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Luostarinen, Eetu
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C
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White, Colin
1 200 000 $
AD, C
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Lomberg, Ryan
800 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 2
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Tierney, Chris
750 000 $
C
UFA - 1
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Balcers, Rūdolfs
750 000 $
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RFA - 1
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Forsling, Gustav
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UFA - 4
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Staal, Marc
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DG
UFA - 1
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Montour, Brandon
3 500 000 $
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UFA - 2
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Knight, Spencer
925 000 $
G
RFA - 1
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Carlsson, Lucas
800 000 $
DG
RFA - 1
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Gudas, Radko
2 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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Kiersted, Matt
762 500 $
DG
RFA - 2
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Duclair, Anthony
3 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
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Heponiemi, Aleksi
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Mayhew, Gerald
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23 juill. à 0 h 26
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Tkachuk was my favourite player, but I think he's more "guy that scored 100pts" than "100pt guy".

If CGY can extend Weegar and Huberdeau I think FLA will need to win a cup to win this trade.
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It's absolutely terrible for both teams. FLA gave up way too much talent, became a worse team, but CGY also has no certainty in extending either, let alone both. You have Marc Staal and Brandon Montour in your top-4 now. Huberdeau alone is arguably better than Tkachuk. Just massive steps back for both teams.
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Tkachuk was my favourite player, but I think he's more "guy that scored 100pts" than "100pt guy".

If CGY can extend Weegar and Huberdeau I think FLA will need to win a cup to win this trade.


Tkachuk will never come close to 100 points again. Never touched 80 points before this past season. He's not on Huberdeau's level. Defensive deficiencies be damned. Hubie was maybe the best setup man in the NHL last season and he puts up these crazy numbers, consistently. That is what separates the best players from the good players.
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I think it is good for both.

FLA trades two expiring contracts and gets the younger player in Tkachuk.

CGY improves their team and can flip both guys at the deadline if they don't want to sign an extension.
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Florida's offense lost a lot of depth, and their left side of defense is atrocious. They're not in a great spot considering the teams in the East looking to make a push and make the playoffs this season (Detroit, Columbus, Ottawa).
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Tkachuk will never come close to 100 points again. Never touched 80 points before this past season. He's not on Huberdeau's level. Defensive deficiencies be damned. Hubie was maybe the best setup man in the NHL last season and he puts up these crazy numbers, consistently. That is what separates the best players from the good players.


The past 2-3yrs Flames fans wanted to trade Johnny for Huberdeau.

Now we get to see how they stack up haha
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The past 2-3yrs Flames fans wanted to trade Johnny for Huberdeau.

Now we get to see how they stack up haha


I had to look at the trade 3 times before believing it was real! You guys won BIG!
23 juill. à 0 h 41
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It's absolutely terrible for both teams. FLA gave up way too much talent, became a worse team, but CGY also has no certainty in extending either, let alone both. You have Marc Staal and Brandon Montour in your top-4 now. Huberdeau alone is arguably better than Tkachuk. Just massive steps back for both teams.


brain damage take
23 juill. à 0 h 49
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I had to look at the trade 3 times before believing it was real! You guys won BIG!


Buddy of mine texted me saying it was FLA. I was like "ugh", thinking it was like Reinhart and Denisenko.

Don't see many deals like this and it's so fascinating
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Tkachuk was my favourite player, but I think he's more "guy that scored 100pts" than "100pt guy".

If CGY can extend Weegar and Huberdeau I think FLA will need to win a cup to win this trade.


Quoting: jwg314
It's absolutely terrible for both teams. FLA gave up way too much talent, became a worse team, but CGY also has no certainty in extending either, let alone both. You have Marc Staal and Brandon Montour in your top-4 now. Huberdeau alone is arguably better than Tkachuk. Just massive steps back for both teams.


Pretty sure Huberdeau and Weegar gets traded at the TDL for futures

Florida takes a major step back tho but on the other hand get Tkachuk for 8 years
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Pretty sure Huberdeau and Weegar gets traded at the TDL for futures

Florida takes a major step back tho but on the other hand get Tkachuk for 8 years


The issue is that Calgary should be, at absolute worst 2nd-4th in the Pacific. Good chance they're a playoff team.

Treliving needs to pay whatever it takes to keep Huberdeau happy.

It's a gamble.
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The issue is that Calgary should be, at absolute worst 2nd-4th in the Pacific. Good chance they're a playoff team.

Treliving needs to pay whatever it takes to keep Huberdeau happy.

It's a gamble.


Yeah if they extend Huberdeau it’s a W for sure for CGY but if both doesn’t and both are used as rental for a playoffs run that would stink for CGY
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Yeah if they extend Huberdeau it’s a W for sure for CGY but if both doesn’t and both are used as rental for a playoffs run that would stink for CGY


At this moment, I think they'll sign Weegar. The Flames haven't drafted an impactful RHD since Rasmus Andersson, they have almost none in the pipeline.

Huberdeau has a a chance, if he wants, to be the most popular person in Calgary. This fanbase is still hurting a bit, if he wants to stick around, they may put his number, whatever it ends up being, in the rafters
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At this moment, I think they'll sign Weegar. The Flames haven't drafted an impactful RHD since Rasmus Andersson, they have almost none in the pipeline.

Huberdeau has a a chance, if he wants, to be the most popular person in Calgary. This fanbase is still hurting a bit, if he wants to stick around, they may put his number, whatever it ends up being, in the rafters


Weegar-Andersson-Tanev isn’t a bad left side either and Hanifin-Kylington-Zadorov it’s decent as well
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Weegar-Andersson-Tanev isn’t a bad left side either and Hanifin-Kylington-Zadorov it’s decent as well


The narrative around the Flames has been downright ugly since Johnny left.

This should be a nice jolt for the team and I think it gives the fans some excitement for the fall, at the very least.
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Pretty sure Huberdeau and Weegar gets traded at the TDL for futures

Florida takes a major step back tho but on the other hand get Tkachuk for 8 years


No, CGY is good enough now to make the playoffs, I doubt they get sold for assets. But they get eliminated early and lose both to FA.
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brain damage take


If you lose both to UFA and don't win a cup, is it really a bad take? Both teams are worse here, non-negotiable.
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No, CGY is good enough now to make the playoffs, I doubt they get sold for assets. But they get eliminated early and lose both to FA.


That would be bad assets management
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That would be bad assets management


That's my point. They will be good enough with this roster to make playoffs and therefore not sell them at the TDL, but they're also not good enough to win a cup. And will then lose both in free agency so they are left with a 1st and a ****ty prospect.
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That's my point. They will be good enough with this roster to make playoffs and therefore not sell them at the TDL, but they're also not good enough to win a cup. And will then lose both in free agency so they are left with a 1st and a ****ty prospect.


I don’t think they are dumb enough to do that 😆
 
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