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(CBJ/SEA) - Bjorkstrand for 2023 3rd and 4th RD picks

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22 juill. à 17 h 8
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Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator
Gaudreau: W
Boqvist : W
Laine: Meh
Gudbranson: L
Bjorkstrand: L
Jiricek: W
Mateychuk: Meh

Jarmo has had the weirdest offseason ever


Mateychuk is a W but yeah he is turning into Marc Bergevin but with good drafting
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Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator
Gaudreau: W
Boqvist : W
Laine: Meh
Gudbranson: L
Bjorkstrand: L
Jiricek: W
Mateychuk: Meh

Jarmo has had the weirdest offseason ever


Jarmo’s had a good off-season, he addressed CBJ’s needs ( though addressing the need of a stay at home bruising D by giving Gud a 4x4 was hella dumb ) but this trade takes the take, Bjorkstrand’s a good 2nd line do it all guy, he’s good offensively and defensively, no idea why Nyquist wasn’t moved
22 juill. à 17 h 8
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Who voted "Fair Trade"? This deserves to be one of those rare one sided picks only poll
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22 juill. à 17 h 9
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Quoting: yoseikanben
Mateychuk is a W but yeah he is turning into Marc Bergevin but with good drafting


Imo there was better options then Mateychuk
That's why I gave a meh
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Easiest W in Seattle’s short history.
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22 juill. à 17 h 11
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I saw this on AGM and thought it was a troll post... What is CBJ doing
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22 juill. à 17 h 12
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I am surprised this is such a landslide as a win for Seattle.

This is the definition of a 'fair deal'.

It is difficult, if not impossible to move out cap with term right now. Even for great players. Columbus managed to do it and get assets. Even if those assets are less than what people would like for the player under a less restrictive cap ceiling.

Look at it this way, they traded Bjorkstand for a 3rd, a 4th, and the facilitation of Johnny Gaudreau's signing.

People will bring up Gudbranson, as if this is NHL 2022, but the reality is that Gudbranson's cap hit isn't linked to this series of transactions because he plays a completely different role/position. They identified that they needed another top 4 defenseman. They may very well have chosen the wrong guy, but in any event the were going to sign someone to top 4 money.

Should they have given up a 1st round pick to move Nyquist instead? That is apparently what the cost was to move JVR. I can't imagine it's much cheaper for Nyquist right now.

Whether they moved on from Laine, Bjorkstrand, Nyquist, Roslovic, etc - the cost was either going to be high to dump a contract, or for players who aren't negative value, the return was going to hurt. This was the cost of acquiring Gaudreau and keeping some balance to the team.
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22 juill. à 17 h 13
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What a nightmare for BJ fans
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22 juill. à 17 h 14
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Only rationalization I can make for this trade is the ask to take Nyquist had to be RIDICULOUS. Like a 1st+ or something insane. This trade stinks.
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22 juill. à 17 h 14
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There's about a 50/50 chance neither of these draft picks turn into players that play as much as Bjorkstrand played last year. ... Holy crap, this is a bad deal for the CBJ. Good job, Seattle.
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22 juill. à 17 h 16
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Quoting: budgeteam
I am surprised this is such a landslide as a win for Seattle.

This is the definition of a 'fair deal'.

It is difficult, if not impossible to move out cap with term right now. Even for great players. Columbus managed to do it and get assets. Even if those assets are less than what people would like for the player under a less restrictive cap ceiling.

Look at it this way, they traded Bjorkstand for a 3rd, a 4th, and the facilitation of Johnny Gaudreau's signing.

People will bring up Gudbranson, as if this is NHL 2022, but the reality is that Gudbranson's cap hit isn't linked to this series of transactions because he plays a completely different role/position. They identified that they needed another top 4 defenseman. They may very well have chosen the wrong guy, but in any event the were going to sign someone to top 4 money.

Should they have given up a 1st round pick to move Nyquist instead? That is apparently what the cost was to move JVR. I can't imagine it's much cheaper for Nyquist right now.

Whether they moved on from Laine, Bjorkstrand, Nyquist, Roslovic, etc - the cost was either going to be high to dump a contract, or for players who aren't negative value, the return was going to hurt. This was the cost of acquiring Gaudreau and keeping some balance to the team.


You can try and spin this any way you want. This is a horrible trade. Bjorkstrand had value on the market. The guy should likely score 30 goals. Is still fairly young. And at a reasonable top 6 cap hit. This was just backed into a corner to sign Laine and that’s it.
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22 juill. à 17 h 17
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What just happened
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While Gaudreau is clearly the more gifted offensive creator, I don't think the value for money is what CBJ thinks it is when accounting for defensive ability.
22 juill. à 17 h 18
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I guess that's what happens when the credit card bill comes up and you don't have the money, send whoever for anything. That could actually make Seattle less of a competitor for the lottery so good!
22 juill. à 17 h 19
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Quoting: budgeteam
It is difficult, if not impossible to move out cap with term right now.


It is difficult to move a bad contract. Bjorkstrand has a good contract. They should have been able to grab a second+ here.
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I think this was the worst possible option for them
What was Kekalainen thinking?


Thinking he has to get under the cap and quickly or this offer won't be here in a month from now.
22 juill. à 17 h 20
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Going with the parade here and saying that yes, this is a very bad trade for the Blue Jackets. They could've easily not signed Gudbranson.
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22 juill. à 17 h 22
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Kekalainen goes from heaven to hell like nobody else. Poor Jackets fan...
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I am surprised this is such a landslide as a win for Seattle.

This is the definition of a 'fair deal'.

It is difficult, if not impossible to move out cap with term right now. Even for great players. Columbus managed to do it and get assets. Even if those assets are less than what people would like for the player under a less restrictive cap ceiling.

Look at it this way, they traded Bjorkstand for a 3rd, a 4th, and the facilitation of Johnny Gaudreau's signing.

People will bring up Gudbranson, as if this is NHL 2022, but the reality is that Gudbranson's cap hit isn't linked to this series of transactions because he plays a completely different role/position. They identified that they needed another top 4 defenseman. They may very well have chosen the wrong guy, but in any event the were going to sign someone to top 4 money.

Should they have given up a 1st round pick to move Nyquist instead? That is apparently what the cost was to move JVR. I can't imagine it's much cheaper for Nyquist right now.

Whether they moved on from Laine, Bjorkstrand, Nyquist, Roslovic, etc - the cost was either going to be high to dump a contract, or for players who aren't negative value, the return was going to hurt. This was the cost of acquiring Gaudreau and keeping some balance to the team.



Quoting: budgeteam
I am surprised this is such a landslide as a win for Seattle.

This is the definition of a 'fair deal'.

It is difficult, if not impossible to move out cap with term right now. Even for great players. Columbus managed to do it and get assets. Even if those assets are less than what people would like for the player under a less restrictive cap ceiling.

Look at it this way, they traded Bjorkstand for a 3rd, a 4th, and the facilitation of Johnny Gaudreau's signing.

People will bring up Gudbranson, as if this is NHL 2022, but the reality is that Gudbranson's cap hit isn't linked to this series of transactions because he plays a completely different role/position. They identified that they needed another top 4 defenseman. They may very well have chosen the wrong guy, but in any event the were going to sign someone to top 4 money.

Should they have given up a 1st round pick to move Nyquist instead? That is apparently what the cost was to move JVR. I can't imagine it's much cheaper for Nyquist right now.

Whether they moved on from Laine, Bjorkstrand, Nyquist, Roslovic, etc - the cost was either going to be high to dump a contract, or for players who aren't negative value, the return was going to hurt. This was the cost of acquiring Gaudreau and keeping some balance to the team.


Yes, Considering it would have be in the mid-high teens 1st pick, Arizona once took Datsyuks 7.5 contract for a 16th overall pick and Datsyuk was already in Russia before the ink dried. Nyquist was at least still able to play and give very good minutes.

Not to mention, a competent Gm would have been able to convince the Yotes to flip him at the deadline by retaining salary. This realistically could've been a 3+ picks for taking on his contract.
22 juill. à 17 h 23
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The price of clearing cap space...

Still tho, Francis FLEEEEEEEEEEEEECE!!!!
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22 juill. à 17 h 28
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Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator
Gaudreau: W
Boqvist : W
Laine: Meh
Gudbranson: L
Bjorkstrand: L
Jiricek: W
Mateychuk: Meh

Jarmo has had the weirdest offseason ever


Yzerman with that weird move of signing Chiarot and drafting a middle 6 center in Kasper at 8OA. I wouldnt say he had a great offseason either.

Holland and Francis somehow taking Ws tho
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22 juill. à 17 h 31
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The only conclusion I can draw from this is that either (1) Anaheim wasn't offered a bid, or (2) with three seconds and two thirds, Verbeek was happy to pay one of each but Bjorkstrand refused to waive his NTC for Anaheim, or (3) Verbeek is as dumb as Kekalainen. I hope that it's not #3.
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22 juill. à 17 h 34
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While Gaudreau is clearly the more gifted offensive creator, I don't think the value for money is what CBJ thinks it is when accounting for defensive ability.


Especially in the ultimate team sport. 1 player even at Gaudreau's elite play isn't worth signing MOAR BIG Gudbrasson and giving away Bjorkstrand.
22 juill. à 17 h 34
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This is no longer considered a trade it is a fleecing by Seattle.
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22 juill. à 17 h 34
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The only conclusion I can draw from this is that either (1) Anaheim wasn't offered a bid, or (2) with three seconds and two thirds, Verbeek was happy to pay one of each but Bjorkstrand refused to waive his NTC for Anaheim, or (3) Verbeek is as dumb as Kekalainen. I hope that it's not #3.


Or is there something none of us are aware of? Seriously if Yzerman traded a 1st for this guy I am quite positive we would all be saying Detroit won. I would take Bjorkstrand on my team in a nano second.
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