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2021-2022 NHL Offseason Discussion Thread #9 - The Demise (Revival?) of Calgary

26 juill. 2022 à 9 h 56
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Dom's model uses market value and he projects there value over the length of there contract. Vlasic was 4th, Bob wasn't included. Surprise player included was Suzuki, projecting that he will be worth -22.3m less after the end of his total contract. His MV is 4.5m.


I was about to comment about this - it’s interesting as guys like Karlsson, Doughty had played their way OUT of the top 3 and actually proved valuable and “bounced back” - if they can continue to do so that would be awesome. Seeing some of the former elite D men we had in the league get back into gear and add some more fire to the leagues exciting crop of D men.

What’s the full top 10 as Vlasic should be higher subjectively than 4th but I’m pretty sure he did improve marginally statistically I just refuse to acknowledge Vlasic being worth 1m AAV is a reasonable improvement to mention. As he keeps fighting for a job that he should not have as there are few roster spots.

Skinner actually improved which is why he’s 3 if I believe correctly and not higher.
26 juill. 2022 à 9 h 59
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Modifié 26 juill. 2022 à 10 h 7
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I’ve seen zero rumors lmfao

Power for Dobson if Dahlin and Samuelsson explode and Dahlin can't thrive on the Right side. tears of joy
26 juill. 2022 à 10 h 3
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I was about to comment about this - it’s interesting as guys like Karlsson, Doughty had played their way OUT of the top 3 and actually proved valuable and “bounced back” - if they can continue to do so that would be awesome. Seeing some of the former elite D men we had in the league get back into gear and add some more fire to the leagues exciting crop of D men.

What’s the full top 10 as Vlasic should be higher subjectively than 4th but I’m pretty sure he did improve marginally statistically I just refuse to acknowledge Vlasic being worth 1m AAV is a reasonable improvement to mention. As he keeps fighting for a job that he should not have as there are few roster spots.

Skinner actually improved which is why he’s 3 if I believe correctly and not higher.


Yea, last 2 years doughty was the #1 and after a massive 21-22 campaign he ends up out of the top 10.
26 juill. 2022 à 10 h 35
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I had a dream that Lou hadn’t made moves in months and ppl were wondering if he was still alive or something happened to him
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26 juill. 2022 à 10 h 43
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I had a dream that Lou hadn’t made moves in months and ppl were wondering if he was still alive or something happened to him


Isles fans are living your dream my friend
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26 juill. 2022 à 11 h 6
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Best defensive defensemen in the league
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26 juill. 2022 à 11 h 8
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All NHL Overpaid Team

Who did I miss?
26 juill. 2022 à 11 h 13
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Best defensive defensemen in the league


Going to be an excellent value contract, one of the better ones signed this summer
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26 juill. 2022 à 11 h 15
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Best defensive defensemen in the league


I know Siegenthaler has amazing analytics but I wouldn’t pay him 3.4 for 5 years
26 juill. 2022 à 11 h 31
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I know Siegenthaler has amazing analytics but I wouldn’t pay him 3.4 for 5 years

3.4mil is about 1-1.5mil below market value for a high end 2nd pair defensive defenseman, and 5 years is all of his prime. Imo it’s a solid number and the perfect length.
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26 juill. 2022 à 12 h 50
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It’s Teemu Selanne day on NHL network. They’re playing Jets v Canucks from 93. God do I miss both teams’ uniforms! I forgot just how good Linden was. Selanne and Bure would tear the league up today with the emphasis on skating now a days. Keith Tkachuk and Tie Domi on the Jets are the Tkachuk and Domi I think of when I hear those last names. Keith started in Canada then left, now Matthew followed his lead. I guess Ottawa has to be happy they locked up Brady
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26 juill. 2022 à 12 h 57
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You know what would’ve been really cool ? If Philly was rebuilding and Calgary traded for Couturier to play with Huberdeau
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26 juill. 2022 à 13 h 4
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He isn't, but Lou is Lou & there's rumours out there


There are no rumors and In this case “Lou is Lou” means that Dobson is untouchable and if it was up to Lou he’d give Dobson contracts till he’s 40.

Lou does not trade his guys , there’s a reason why he goes after every one of his draft picks if they leave in UFA or he’s the GM of another team
26 juill. 2022 à 13 h 10
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Per Weekes (cause he @ ‘s 30 people I can’t link the original)
“ **Keep an eye 👁 on **
I’m told Calder Cup winning Coach Ryan Warsofsky who interviewed with San Jose Sharks for their HC position, will now interview with them for their AC position.”

God I hope Grier hires him it could be one of his best moves potentially for the organization. I mean if Quinn micromanages the vets/ team and Warsofsky handles the rookies I may actually gain optimism.
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26 juill. 2022 à 13 h 14
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Sasha Chmelevski has left the San Jose Sharks and NHL - and is heading to play in the KHL… that’s a shocker imo. Damn.
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26 juill. 2022 à 13 h 17
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Sasha Chmelevski has left the San Jose Sharks and NHL - and is heading to play in the KHL… that’s a shocker imo. Damn.


Weird, considering the dude is American.
26 juill. 2022 à 13 h 18
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Ottawa is still circling around Chychrun per Brent Wallace who has sources in Arizona. Chychrun has been in Ottawa as parts of his family are from here and they have a property a bit outside of Ottawa.

I can’t see Ottawa trading Greig or Pinto or an unprotected 1st.

But I can see a package centered around:

JBD or Thomson or Brannstrom (Arizona choice)
Any other forward prospect
Top 5 protected 1st
2nd rounder
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26 juill. 2022 à 13 h 26
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Weird, considering the dude is American.


Even more so because I think he could have earned a role in the NHL this year (on SJ or through waivers/ trade) as I believe he looked really good in his last 10 games and figured it out. Just looked more comfortable and not lost. He’s not a great skater so in the past he would look lost and slow; but then he began looking calm and thinking ahead and actually looked fine even if his legs are up to the speed. Idk not reading into 10 games too much; but I think he had down finally.
26 juill. 2022 à 13 h 27
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Ottawa is still circling around Chychrun per Brent Wallace who has sources in Arizona. Chychrun has been in Ottawa as parts of his family are from here and they have a property a bit outside of Ottawa.

I can’t see Ottawa trading Greig or Pinto or an unprotected 1st.

But I can see a package centered around:

JBD or Thomson or Brannstrom (Arizona choice)
Any other forward prospect
Top 5 protected 1st
2nd rounder

Oh god wouldn’t it be sweet if Arizona took Boucher..
26 juill. 2022 à 13 h 29
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Oh god wouldn’t it be sweet if Arizona took Boucher..


I wouldn’t sell low on Boucher
26 juill. 2022 à 13 h 31
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Ottawa is still circling around Chychrun per Brent Wallace who has sources in Arizona. Chychrun has been in Ottawa as parts of his family are from here and they have a property a bit outside of Ottawa.

I can’t see Ottawa trading Greig or Pinto or an unprotected 1st.

But I can see a package centered around:

JBD or Thomson or Brannstrom (Arizona choice)
Any other forward prospect
Top 5 protected 1st
2nd rounder


Formenton, Brannstrom, 1st + 2nd
26 juill. 2022 à 13 h 33
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Formenton, Brannstrom, 1st + 2nd


I would’ve been okay with that but who knows what happens to Formenton now. I assume Formenton and Batherson are untradeable at least for the next while. Normally I wouldn’t trade Formenton but it’s time to capitalize on Greigs ELC and let him play 3rd line and use that money for D
26 juill. 2022 à 13 h 36
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I wouldn’t sell low on Boucher


I mean if Arizona is taking Boucher, Brannstrom that is a blessing for Ottawa if Chychrun is the return.
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26 juill. 2022 à 13 h 38
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I mean if Arizona is taking Boucher, Brannstrom that is a blessing for Ottawa if Chychrun is the return.


If we acquire Chychrun , I think in 2-3 years the Sens would have to choose between moving him or Chabot
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26 juill. 2022 à 13 h 40
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Sasha Chmelevski has left the San Jose Sharks and NHL - and is heading to play in the KHL… that’s a shocker imo. Damn.


1 year deal in the KHL, he probably wants a NHL spot and doesn’t think he’s getting one/RFA negotiations have gone real bad, he’ll be back next year (hopefully)
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