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Tkachuk Trades For 5 Teams

Créé par: MikeKeenanHatesMe
Équipe: 2022-23 Flames de Calgary
Date de création initiale: 19 juill. 2022
Publié: 20 juill. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Which one is the best return for us?

1 NJ- They have the room and the futures to get this done so they lead the way

2 NYI- A good amount of room but less to offer as far as futures go.

3 Ottawa- Obviously this is tough with the cap but you have to assume they’d be interested

4 St Louis is home so they have to be mentioned even if the cap situation seems brutal

5 Columbus- Probably not a popular idea and I’d make them pay for it but they could do it.
Transactions
1.
CGY
  1. Holtz, Alexander
  2. Severson, Damon
  3. Thompson, Tyce [Droits de RFA]
  4. Wood, Miles [Droits de RFA]
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (NJD)
2.
CGY
  1. Beauvillier, Anthony
  2. Salo, Robin
  3. Wahlstrom, Oliver
  4. Wilde, Bode
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (NYI)
  6. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (NYI)
NYI
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (CGY)
Détails additionnels:
Tkachuk goes back the other way.
3.
OTT
    Tkachuk and a mid round pick in 23 or 24
    4.
    CGY
    1. Bolduc, Zachary
    2. Neighbours, Jake
    3. Tarasenko, Vladimir
    4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (STL)
    5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (STL)
    Détails additionnels:
    Tarasenko is flipped to a team he agrees to play for in addition for another 2023 first
    STL
    1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (CGY)
    Détails additionnels:
    Tkachuk
    5.
    CGY
    1. Laine, Patrik [Droits de RFA]
    2. Mateychuk, Denton
    3. Nyquist, Gustav
    4. Tarasov, Daniil
    5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (CBJ)
    Détails additionnels:
    Retain 50% on Nyquist and flip him for a 1st rounder
    CBJ
    1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (CGY)
    Détails additionnels:
    Tkachuk
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    Logo de NYI
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    2024
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    Logo de CGY
    Logo de STL
    Logo de NYI
    Logo de CGY
    2025
    Logo de CGY
    Logo de CGY
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    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2082 500 000 $55 887 500 $0 $200 000 $26 612 500 $
    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
    Logo de Flames de Calgary
    5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
    AG, AD
    M-NTC, NMC
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Flames de Calgary
    4 850 000 $4 850 000 $
    C, AD
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Flames de Calgary
    2 125 000 $2 125 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Flames de Calgary
    4 900 000 $4 900 000 $
    AD, AG
    NTC
    UFA - 5
    Logo de Flames de Calgary
    5 350 000 $5 350 000 $
    C
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Flames de Calgary
    800 000 $800 000 $ (Bonis de performance200 000 $$200K)
    AD, C
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Flames de Calgary
    2 300 000 $2 300 000 $
    AG, AD, C
    RFA - 2
    Logo de Flames de Calgary
    6 375 000 $6 375 000 $
    C, AG, AD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Flames de Calgary
    1 300 000 $1 300 000 $
    C
    UFA - 2
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    Logo de Flames de Calgary
    1 237 500 $1 237 500 $
    DG
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Flames de Calgary
    4 550 000 $4 550 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 4
    Logo de Flames de Calgary
    6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
    G
    NMC
    UFA - 4
    Logo de Flames de Calgary
    3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
    DG/DD
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Flames de Calgary
    1 125 000 $1 125 000 $
    DD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Flames de Calgary
    750 000 $750 000 $
    G
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Flames de Calgary
    1 550 000 $1 550 000 $
    DG
    RFA - 1
    Logo de Flames de Calgary
    950 000 $950 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
    1 050 000 $1 050 000 $
    G
    RFA - 3
    Logo de Flames de Calgary
    912 500 $912 500 $
    DG
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Flames de Calgary
    762 500 $762 500 $
    DG
    UFA - 2
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
    Logo de Devils du New Jersey
    894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
    AD, AG
    RFA - 3
    Logo de Devils du New Jersey
    4 166 666 $4 166 666 $
    DD
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Islanders de New York
    800 000 $800 000 $
    DG
    RFA - 2
    Logo de Islanders de New York
    764 167 $764 167 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
    DD
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Islanders de New York
    894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance537 500 $$538K)
    AD
    RFA - 1
    Logo de Islanders de New York
    4 150 000 $4 150 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
    925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance600 000 $$600K)
    C
    RFA - 1
    Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
    4 975 000 $4 975 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 5
    Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
    894 167 $894 167 $
    AD
    RFA - 4
    Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
    2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Blues de St-Louis
    3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
    AD
    NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Blues de St-Louis
    894 167 $894 167 $
    AG
    RFA - 4
    Logo de Blues de St-Louis
    835 833 $835 833 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
    AG, AD
    RFA - 3
    Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
    2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
    950 000 $950 000 $
    DG
    RFA - 4

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    20 juill. 2022 à 0 h 15
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    GO FLAMES GO
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    Ottawa and Columbus instantly decline
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    20 juill. 2022 à 0 h 17
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    Quoting: Gmonwy
    Ottawa and Columbus instantly decline


    I’m warming up to a STL trade. We could flip Tarasenko for a 1st to a team he wants to be on
    20 juill. 2022 à 0 h 17
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    Laine for Tkachuk would be crazy
    20 juill. 2022 à 0 h 18
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    Wild trades. I think you got too many pieces on the move in all the trades. Teams don't usually give up 3 roster players + prospects and picks for 1 player.
    20 juill. 2022 à 0 h 20
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    I agree that we'd likely need to add in a Laine/Tkachuk trade, but that's way too much.
    Viqsi a aimé ceci.
    20 juill. 2022 à 0 h 21
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    New Jersey and Columbus are the only ones I really consider
    20 juill. 2022 à 0 h 21
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    Quoting: TheLamb9
    Wild trades. I think you got too many pieces on the move in all the trades. Teams don't usually give up 3 roster players + prospects and picks for 1 player.


    Aside from NJ, every other trade has a cap neutraliser built in to help the other team pay Tkachuk as part of the deal ( Beau from NYI, Batherson and Zub from the Sens, STL Vlad, and Columbus with Goose Nuquist
    20 juill. 2022 à 0 h 23
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    Quoting: AM19
    I agree that we'd likely need to add in a Laine/Tkachuk trade, but that's way too much.


    I’m pretty certain if you guys called Brad the asking price goes up a bit higher than anyone who calls minus Edmonton or Toronto
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    20 juill. 2022 à 0 h 24
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    These are way too many players. The trade won’t be this big. It’ll be a good NHL player, an A prospect and Probly a 1st as a starting point. Give or take a pick or prospect

    For Washington my starting offer would be

    Wilson
    McMichael
    1st
    3rd
    20 juill. 2022 à 0 h 32
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    Far too much of the CBJ's future for one player. I get that Laine is seen as a reduced value player around here, but I wouldn't give up the opportunity to put him on a line and powerplay with Gaudreau to get Tkachuk. I'd especially not do it if I have to add a #12 OA from 2 weeks ago, an NHL ready goalie and a 1st in what is supposed to be a very deep draft.
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    20 juill. 2022 à 0 h 33
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    Jackets easily decline. I would do Laine plus a small add but that’s it. Maybe Laine, Nyquist, a second, and a third.
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    20 juill. 2022 à 0 h 33
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    Quoting: MikeKeenanHatesMe
    I’m pretty certain if you guys called Brad the asking price goes up a bit higher than anyone who calls minus Edmonton or Toronto


    Why? What happened?
    20 juill. 2022 à 0 h 34
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    Quoting: CastingCouchGuy
    These are way too many players. The trade won’t be this big. It’ll be a good NHL player, an A prospect and Probly a 1st as a starting point. Give or take a pick or prospect

    For Washington my starting offer would be

    Wilson
    McMichael
    1st
    3rd


    Didn’t think of the Caps. That’s a decent offer
    20 juill. 2022 à 0 h 36
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    Quoting: SK101
    Jackets easily decline. I would do Laine plus a small add but that’s it. Maybe Laine, Nyquist, a second, and a third.


    Calgary isn’t doing you any favours lol. If you wanted to reunite the dynamic duo you’re going to pay for it. If not someone will send us a good package and he goes elsewhere
    20 juill. 2022 à 0 h 37
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    Calgary isn’t doing you any favours lol. If you wanted to reunite the dynamic duo you’re going to pay for it. If not someone will send us a good package and he goes elsewhere


    That’s fine. Jackets aren’t desperate for him. Would rather see what Laine and gaudreau can do together without sacrificing a ton of futures.
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    20 juill. 2022 à 0 h 38
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    Quoting: dk325
    Far too much of the CBJ's future for one player. I get that Laine is seen as a reduced value player around here, but I wouldn't give up the opportunity to put him on a line and powerplay with Gaudreau to get Tkachuk. I'd especially not do it if I have to add a #12 OA from 2 weeks ago, an NHL ready goalie and a 1st in what is supposed to be a very deep draft.


    Yep it’s a lot and it’s more than I’d want from insert random team not named Toronto or Edmonton HERE but I can’t see the Flames sending him out there unless it’s an overpay
    20 juill. 2022 à 0 h 40
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    Quoting: SK101
    That’s fine. Jackets aren’t desperate for him. Would rather see what Laine and gaudreau can do together without sacrificing a ton of futures.


    If I was in your shoes I’d be doing the same thing. For the record I hold no grudge against the Jackets. I’m ticked off at our own management because I knew this was going to happen this time last year and he should have been traded then
    20 juill. 2022 à 0 h 44
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    If I was in your shoes I’d be doing the same thing. For the record I hold no grudge against the Jackets. I’m ticked off at our own management because I knew this was going to happen this time last year and he should have been traded then


    Yeah once I saw gaudreau come to the jackets I had a feeling matty was getting traded. Makes more sense why Johnny left. He probably knew matty was leaving and didn’t want to go through a rebuild/retool. Sucks losing gaudreau for nothing but if the flames go for a rebuild they have a ton of valuable assets that would greatly accelerate a rebuild starting with matty.
    20 juill. 2022 à 0 h 48
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    Quoting: SK101
    Yeah once I saw gaudreau come to the jackets I had a feeling matty was getting traded. Makes more sense why Johnny left. He probably knew matty was leaving and didn’t want to go through a rebuild/retool. Sucks losing gaudreau for nothing but if the flames go for a rebuild they have a ton of valuable assets that would greatly accelerate a rebuild starting with matty.


    We need to clean house and start over. New GM is a must at this point. When you lose the top scorer on your team for free it’s time to find another job. Beaker can coach this season and then bring in a younger coach for the rest of the rebuild.
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    20 juill. 2022 à 0 h 49
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    I don’t see the blues giving up Tarasenko plus neighbors plus bolduc plus a 1st. It destroys their prospect pool
    20 juill. 2022 à 1 h 16
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    Quoting: Tennisman142
    I don’t see the blues giving up Tarasenko plus neighbors plus bolduc plus a 1st. It destroys their prospect pool


    Tarasenko is the only player they could move to get the cap space to sign him.
    20 juill. 2022 à 1 h 28
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    Take out one of neighbors bolduc or the first and the blues accept
    20 juill. 2022 à 4 h 42
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    Think that's a slightly excessive from the Devils pov.
    I think it'd be fair if Severson was swapped out for Tatar, Flames could easily flip him for a 2nd or a 3rd at TDL.
    20 juill. 2022 à 5 h 28
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    Atleast the blues keep Kyrou in this scenario. It makes no sense to have to move Vladi to make room, Kyrou and not resigning Perron all off the right side + picks/prospects also. That would be losing way too much in one off season while only adding Tkachuk who I see taking a step back from last season. This is still a huge package for Calgary (maybe a bit much) and moving Vladi especially if they retain would likely net them an additonal 1st plus. Bolduc and Neighbours are studs and both ready to make an impact by next season (Neighbours is ready now, Bolduc maybe but think he has the higher ceiling)
    20 juill. 2022 à 7 h 13
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    Isles say yes
     
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