Pierre-Luc Dubois

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Créé par: LIRIK

Équipe: 2022-23 Canadiens de Montréal

Date de création initiale: 18 juill. 2022

Publié: 18 juill. 2022

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

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Barron : This one hurt, but MTL gotta give something to get Dubois.
Dvorak : Replace PLD as a 2C.
Hoffman : Cap dump, MTL need cap space to sign Dubois.
2nd : MTL could give FLO 2023 1st top 10 protected, but if it's top 10, MTL would have to give their 2024 1st, which could also be top 10 pick. Scary.

WIN get a needed RHD top prospect, a high pick (33-37) in a very deep draft, and two top 9 players who could be flipped for picks at a later TDL.

MTL get PLD, and only quality piece they lose is Barron. I know Dvorak and that 2nd have value, but i don't care.

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TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
19	82 500 000 $	67 251 666 $	1 132 500 $	4 857 500 $	15 248 334 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
	Suzuki, Nick 7 875 000 $7 875 000 $ C UFA - 8	Gallagher, Brendan 6 500 000 $6 500 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC, NMC UFA - 5
Byron, Paul 3 400 000 $3 400 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1		Anderson, Josh 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 5
Pitlick, Rem 1 100 000 $1 100 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 2	Evans, Jake 1 700 000 $1 700 000 $ C UFA - 3	Dadonov, Evgeni 2 500 000 $2 500 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 1
Slafkovsky, Juraj 950 000 $950 000 $ (3 500 000 $$4M) AD, AG RFA - 3		Armia, Joel 3 400 000 $3 400 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 3
Caufield, Cole 880 833 $880 833 $ (850 000 $$850K) AG, AD UFA - 1
Pezzetta, Michael 750 000 $750 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Matheson, Michael 4 875 000 $4 875 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 4	Savard, David 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ DD UFA - 3	Price, Carey 10 500 000 $10 500 000 $ G NMC UFA - 4
Edmundson, Joel 875 000 $875 000 $ DG/DD M-NTC UFA - 2		Allen, Jake 2 875 000 $2 875 000 $ G UFA - 1
Harris, Jordan 842 500 $842 500 $ (507 500 $$508K) DG/DD RFA - 1	Wideman, Chris 762 500 $762 500 $ DD UFA - 2	Montembeault, Samuel 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ G UFA - 2

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
	Drouin, Jonathan 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ AG, AD M-NTC UFA - 1

19 juill. 2022 à 0 h 0

CF18GM

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Why is WPG taking a cap dump to gift you PLD? Would rather send PLD to ARI for a half eaten Wendy's burger than to entertain an awful Habs trade offer.

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19 juill. 2022 à 0 h 0

Windjammer

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I can't see Winnipeg doing that and not getting a 1st or getting any compensation for taking Hoffman as a dump.

They'd likely just wait until next summer.

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19 juill. 2022 à 0 h 1

Not_Isles5513

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Jets say no. Not fair value. If PLD and Pat Brisson have been communicating with Ken Holland to try and force their way to Montreal it will be interesting to see what happens. I am not an expert on tampering by any means, but this seems like a scenario where the league may have to step in.

19 juill. 2022 à 0 h 1

SMH

Mr.

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Habs won't offer so much, they're rebuilding not contending

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19 juill. 2022 à 0 h 2

Hockey_Soul

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I think a PLD trade has to start with an unprotected 2023 1st.

19 juill. 2022 à 0 h 2

Not_Isles5513

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Quoting: Windjammer

I can't see Winnipeg doing that and not getting a 1st or getting any compensation for taking Hoffman as a dump.

They'd likely just wait until next summer.

Canadians won’t be able to bully Chevy. These rumors are beyond ridiculous.

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19 juill. 2022 à 0 h 5

LIRIK

Démarrer sujet

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Quoting: Windjammer

I can't see Winnipeg doing that and not getting a 1st or getting any compensation for taking Hoffman as a dump.

They'd likely just wait until next summer.

Could add a mid round pick to take Hoffman, but MTL have to dump 8M in cap space before that trade happen.

Giving a top 10 protected 1st is scary for the Habs. 2023 draft is so good, MTL 2023 1st is more valuable than a late 2022 1st.

19 juill. 2022 à 0 h 7

Cheddamonkey37

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Wdym this one hurt? You didn’t give anything up lmao

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19 juill. 2022 à 0 h 8

LIRIK

Démarrer sujet

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Quoting: Cheddamonkey37

Wdym this one hurt? You didn’t give anything up lmao

Giving Barron hurts, he's our only RHD top prospect.

19 juill. 2022 à 0 h 10

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Cheddamonkey37

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Quoting: LIRIK

Giving Barron hurts, he's our only RHD top prospect.

Meh nice player but that as a headliner for a PLD trade is nothing special at all

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19 juill. 2022 à 0 h 28

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BigBadBurke

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As a fan of hockey, that doesn't hurt. And isn't nearly enough of a return for WPG to even consider it.

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19 juill. 2022 à 0 h 29

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Not_Isles5513

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Quoting: BigBadBurke

As a fan of hockey, that doesn't hurt. And isn't nearly enough of a return for WPG to even consider it.

Can’t argue with you there 😉

19 juill. 2022 à 0 h 29

#13

tsyls

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If we’re thinking about this situation logically, Chevy wants a player Montreal has 0 interest in moving. Who could that be? Suzuki? Caufield? Slaf? I’m not sure but either way jets aren’t just going to roll over and give PLD to the habs for a deal like this. I’d argue he’s worth more than this to a desperate contender at the TDL giving them 2 playoff runs with him.

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19 juill. 2022 à 0 h 29

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BigBadBurke

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Quoting: Isles5513

Can’t argue with you there 😉

Except that you think I'm still not a fan of hockey, right

19 juill. 2022 à 0 h 36

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Not_Isles5513

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Quoting: BigBadBurke

Except that you think I'm still not a fan of hockey, right

The Avs***

19 juill. 2022 à 0 h 37

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BorisBagel

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Habs get PLD for nothing in 2 years when he’s a UFA

19 juill. 2022 à 0 h 46

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BigBadBurke

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Quoting: BorisBagel

Habs get PLD for nothing in 2 years when he’s a UFA

He's gonna ask for 0$? Well shoot, sign us up!

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19 juill. 2022 à 1 h 22

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SMH

Mr.

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Quoting: Hockey_Mind

I think a PLD trade has to start with an unprotected 2023 1st.

You think wrong

19 juill. 2022 à 9 h 33

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Windjammer

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Quoting: LIRIK

The first I would imagine is non-negotiable, so you would have to add Florida's first in 23.

Winnipeg is already doing Montreal a favour by trading Dubois at a discount in your trade, so Montreal's cap issues are their problem, not Winnipeg's.

If you want Winnipeg to help you out by taking Hoffman as a dump, add another first minimum for a 2 year dump. If that price is too high then you're free to move Hoffman elsewhere for a "mid pick."

19 juill. 2022 à 16 h 4

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BorisBagel

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Quoting: BigBadBurke

He's gonna ask for 0$? Well shoot, sign us up!

He’s taking a home town discount already told Habs GM that

19 juill. 2022 à 16 h 25

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Andy_Dick

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Quoting: BorisBagel

He’s taking a home town discount already told Habs GM that

LOL. He's going to get paid at Home Depot! His contract will state practices are optional as he'll need to honour his shifts at Home Depot. 0$ contract
For the Love of the game!.
It is written.

19 juill. 2022 à 19 h 1

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BigBadBurke

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Quoting: Windjammer

Arizona didn't get a 1st in the Ghostisbehere dump. Why should WPG expect different?

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