From Montreal's perspective, I have to think that either we're going to be trading Matheson to somebody else or that this is a precursor to trading Edmundson, because (a) this trade by itself creates almost no cap space and actually creates less long-term financial flexibility since Matheson's contract lasts longer than Petry's and (b) we don't need more left D.

I have no words. Hextall has single-handedly reconstructed the penguins defense core with a couple old guys in letang, petry, and ruuta and one struggling young guy in smith… once again we have no cap space
And WE STILL HAVE 9 DEFENSEMEN!!!

delusional .. Matheson + Marino are WAY better. Petry is 36 signed to 6.25m for 3 more years. Penguins keep taking stupid risks. end of the day the traded Marino for Petry and Matheson for Smith...

I got a feeling Friedman and Rudweal go on waivers

Greatest winners are the CF community.

Now these stupid Petry trades can finally stop.

The real winner of this trade is Ryan Poehling

Throwing away Poehling is great cause he was either going to steal a spot in Laval from someone that can actually grow his game or get 4th line minutes as a winger which we have too many (Wingers), it also clears an extra 800k that could be used over the year for a short term cap dump OR to pursuit Dubois.
Petry didn't want to be here so that's that. Also to be noted is that we traded an aging defender with a 15 team no-trade list for a younger guy with 8 no-trade so on the long run it could help us if he has to be moved.
I like it for Montreal, they now have margin under the cap (If Price's healthy) to sign Dach.


It was as obnoxious that some Habs fans thought he was worth a 1st as Detroit fans thinking he needed to be moved along with a 1st to be tradeable. Both side of the spectrum can now go to bed.

There were far more ppl that were saying Petry was a cap dump.

I had him going for a 2nd and a 3rd. Not too satisfied getting another left handed D but if they were going to trade Petry then they needed some NHL experience after trading Romanov.

They save a few million and Poehling had no more role on this team with Suzuki-Dvorak-Dach-Evans down the middle. 4th for Poehling is meh.

Petry has less term than Matheson, no idea what you’re talking about

Read the first part of that statement. He's 34. Not good to have guys that age signed to longer term deals. Matheson is 6 years younger than Petry.

Except I don’t trust Matheson at all to be good, he’s had an outlier analytically good year, at least with Petry, I know I’m getting a decent 2nd pair guy, Matheson’s looking like a #4 D at best

You just worded it wrong. He's signed not longer term but too far in age.

I didn't mean longer in comparison to Matheson, I just meant his contract isn't expiring anytime soon. Guess I could've worded it better.

big w for pittsburg

Really bizarre trade. Matheson was rumoured for years going to go Montreal as a native Montrealer when he was with Florida. Seems like another "character" move than Bergevin was famous for

Yea they are going to move someone else most likely Pettersson. You say a couple old guys like a clueless hockey fan here. Two are on 3 years deals. Letang is a freak of nature and a legend. He is still one of the best top pair guys in the league. Nothing about that has changed. Say what you want about Rutta but he clearly knows how to play with talented players ie he's probably smart. But Petry has been a top pairing guy for like 7 years at least. He might not be getting any better but he doesn't have to be RIGHT NOW IN THIS MOMENT he is 100%, hands down, WAY BETTER than Marino and Matheson. Not even close. Smith is 22. He has a legit ceiling. These trades made us much better today than when we got bounced by NYR.

Pittsburgh is chasing their losses at this point after swapping Marino for Ty Smith.

Nothing else to it.


Montreal wins the trade.

Jeff Petry will instantly request a trade because he wanted to stay with a Canadian team

Having Petry gone is extremely sad, but not unexpected.

Having Poehling gone is great. Although they added someone who’s also a terrible person (for the reason of being dirty and violent rather than racist and having sh*tty morals). Although one of those is probably more fixable than the other, so I guess it’s a fine trade off?

lol no they arent. you have no idea what youre talkin about

I think Pens won for just a little bit in this trade. You can say it's a fair one. If Petry plays like the season before and Poehling improves his game, then it'll be a huge win for us. On the other hand, Matheson showed some improve in his game, specially defensively. We'll see the result on the ice...

It’ll also be weird to see Petry wearing the jersey of the team that he scored on in his most memorable moment with Montréal.

jeff

By every metric, stat... Petry is a far better defenseman. Dont know where these ppl get their info. Top15 RHD the last 5 years. Those RHD are almost impossible to acquire in trade. If he didnt request a trade, he'd still be in Montreal. This org is always stubborn about their history, pride and reputation.

I mean it’s probably a better location for him than Montréal, but somewhere further south like Dallas would probably be where he’d find himself more at home.