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Pierre Luc Dubois go go go

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Équipe: 2022-23 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 14 juill. 2022
Publié: 14 juill. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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RFAANSCAP HIT
32 250 000 $
87 000 000 $
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MTL
  1. Dubois, Pierre-Luc [Droits de RFA]
WPG
  1. Armia, Joel
  2. Dvorak, Christian
  3. Mysak, Jan
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (FLA)
  5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (MTL)
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Protection top 10

Mysak ou Harris a vous de voir.
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  1. Hoffman, Mike
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (VGK)
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MTL
  1. Khudobin, Anton
  2. Kyrou, Christian [Liste de réserve]
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (DAL)
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14 juill. 2022 à 21 h 6
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That doesn’t get Dubois. Pick would have to be unprotected and you would have to send a top prospect
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14 juill. 2022 à 21 h 8
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Stars decline, way too much plus don’t have the cap.
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14 juill. 2022 à 21 h 8
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ngl winnipeg should just sign him to a deal for as long as he's willing to sign for (two years i guess), retain half salary on it, and trade him to the highest bidder. teams are still going to have interest in two years of dubois and there's always the chance he chooses to stick around after. no reason to sell him for low value to the habs just because they're the team he wants to go to in two years.
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14 juill. 2022 à 21 h 12
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ngl winnipeg should just sign him to a deal for as long as he's willing to sign for (two years i guess), retain half salary on it, and trade him to the highest bidder. teams are still going to have interest in two years of dubois and there's always the chance he chooses to stick around after. no reason to sell him for low value to the habs just because they're the team he wants to go to in two years.


Ben ont va attendre alors! Ont n'est pas pressé.............2024 UFA
14 juill. 2022 à 21 h 17
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Ben ont va attendre alors! Ont n'est pas pressé.............2024 UFA


yeah, just don't think winnipeg needs to roll over and take garbage from the habs in return for him. someone will give up a premium asset for 2 years of PLD, especially if they sign him at say 7.5mil annually and retain half, which gets a team PLD at 3.5mil for two years.
14 juill. 2022 à 21 h 27
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All garbage and a 1st outside the top 10 sounds good!
14 juill. 2022 à 21 h 44
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yeah, just don't think winnipeg needs to roll over and take garbage from the habs in return for him. someone will give up a premium asset for 2 years of PLD, especially if they sign him at say 7.5mil annually and retain half, which gets a team PLD at 3.5mil for two years.


That doesn't seem like a move the Jets would do, cant see them retaining half on Dubois for two years.
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14 juill. 2022 à 21 h 44
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All garbage and a 1st outside the top 10 sounds good!


Seriously who's giving a top 10 pick for Dubois?
14 juill. 2022 à 21 h 46
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
That doesn't seem like a move the Jets would do, cant see them retaining half on Dubois for two years.


i'd be surprised but IMO it's the way to best maximize his value
14 juill. 2022 à 21 h 47
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i'd be surprised but IMO it's the way to best maximize his value


Could be, just doesn't seem like a move the Jets or other GMs would even entertain, they're really not a creative bunch.. lol
14 juill. 2022 à 21 h 50
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If Petry had that much value, he would've been traded by now. Stars pass. No need to trade for Petry at that price.
15 juill. 2022 à 1 h 50
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If Petry had that much value, he would've been traded by now. Stars pass. No need to trade for Petry at that price.


Yeah, DAL 2023 2nd would be enough at this point. Hughes said he just don't want to pay to dump Petry.
15 juill. 2022 à 2 h 3
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That doesn’t get Dubois. Pick would have to be unprotected and you would have to send a top prospect


No lol. A top prospect AND a unprotected 1st is a massive overpay.
15 juill. 2022 à 10 h 57
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No lol. A top prospect AND a unprotected 1st is a massive overpay.


I mean you wanted to send a 3rd line center, a fourth line right wing, a B level prospect and two highly mediocre picks for Dubois. If you want to make that deal you have to add to it. Sorry. 🤷‍♂️
15 juill. 2022 à 11 h 16
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I mean you wanted to send a 3rd line center, a fourth line right wing, a B level prospect and two highly mediocre picks for Dubois. If you want to make that deal you have to add to it. Sorry. 🤷‍♂️


Dvorak est très sous estimé. Avec les coyotes il ne pouvait pas faire grand chose et la avec le CH que tout allait mal, il n'a pas pu démontré le joueur qu'il est encore. Quand Martin St Louis est arrivé, Dvorak a commencé a produire beaucoup plus.
15 juill. 2022 à 11 h 19
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Dvorak est très sous estimé. Avec les coyotes il ne pouvait pas faire grand chose et la avec le CH que tout allait mal, il n'a pas pu démontré le joueur qu'il est encore. Quand Martin St Louis est arrivé, Dvorak a commencé a produire beaucoup plus.


I don’t speak French sorry
15 juill. 2022 à 11 h 33
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I mean you wanted to send a 3rd line center, a fourth line right wing, a B level prospect and two highly mediocre picks for Dubois. If you want to make that deal you have to add to it. Sorry. 🤷‍♂️


I didn't make this armchair GM. Calling Dvorak a "3rd line center" & a 1st round pick a "mediocre" pick is just stupid. Can't really take your valuations seriously.
15 juill. 2022 à 11 h 37
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I didn't make this armchair GM. Calling Dvorak a "3rd line center" & a 1st round pick a "mediocre" pick is just stupid. Can't really take your valuations seriously.


If they add Dubois aren’t they a lock to make the playoffs? That means the pick will be between 16-32. And Dvorak is a third line center if you are in cup contention. That’s not enough for Dubois lol
15 juill. 2022 à 11 h 37
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I didn't make this armchair GM. Calling Dvorak a "3rd line center" & a 1st round pick a "mediocre" pick is just stupid. Can't really take your valuations seriously.


My bad. I misspoke when I said you made it. All I’m saying is that Dvorak, Armia, a B level prospect and a mid to late 1st isn’t enough to get Dubois 🤷‍♂️
15 juill. 2022 à 11 h 48
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If they add Dubois aren’t they a lock to make the playoffs? That means the pick will be between 16-32. And Dvorak is a third line center if you are in cup contention. That’s not enough for Dubois lol


Dubois has had a career high of .74 PPG & needs a big contract. That doesn't get some huge haul back.

Dvorak is a good two way center. His best season was .59 PPG only .15 PPG off from PLD's best season and he's much better defensively. Calling him just a 3C is underselling him.

25 year old Sam Reinhart last 3 years (.76 PPG) = late 1st + prospect

24 year old PLD last 3 years (.66 PPG) = Unprotected 1st + top tier prospect +

Doesn't make too much sense. Add in the character concerns too.
15 juill. 2022 à 11 h 51
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Quoting: DongLord23
Dubois has had a career high of .74 PPG & needs a big contract. That doesn't get some huge haul back.

Dvorak is a good two way center. His best season was .59 PPG only .15 PPG off from PLD's best season and he's much better defensively. Calling him just a 3C is underselling him.

25 year old Sam Reinhart last 3 years (.76 PPG) = late 1st + prospect

24 year old PLD last 3 years (.66 PPG) = Unprotected 1st + top tier prospect +

Doesn't make too much sense. Add in the character concerns too.


Dvorak isn’t a second line center on a cup winning team imo. He’s a nice player to have but I think you are overrating him. Reinheart Is more of a wing then a center so I don’t like that comparison.

TBH I would be concerned about Dubois’s point totals given his linemates, but the lack of depth the jets have might be negatively impacting their top lines. Also I don’t think most NHL GM’s would share that concern with me or you.
15 juill. 2022 à 11 h 53
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Quoting: DongLord23
Dubois has had a career high of .74 PPG & needs a big contract. That doesn't get some huge haul back.

Dvorak is a good two way center. His best season was .59 PPG only .15 PPG off from PLD's best season and he's much better defensively. Calling him just a 3C is underselling him.

25 year old Sam Reinhart last 3 years (.76 PPG) = late 1st + prospect

24 year old PLD last 3 years (.66 PPG) = Unprotected 1st + top tier prospect +

Doesn't make too much sense. Add in the character concerns too.


Btw Dvorak is a very good 3C. I don’t think that an insult in anyway shape or form. Yanni Gourde was a 3C in Tampa. Pageau was the isles 3C during their conference finals runs. I think Dvorak is worse than both players, but that isn’t an insulting group to be a part of.
15 juill. 2022 à 13 h 56
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Seriously who's giving a top 10 pick for Dubois?


You’d take this deal?
15 juill. 2022 à 22 h 31
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Quoting: Cheddamonkey37
You’d take this deal?


Not this exact deal but something like this yeah, Dubois sunk his value a bit, I just don't see a better offer than this coming.
 
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