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Créé par: JAKE6
Équipe: 2022-23 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 11 juill. 2022
Publié: 11 juill. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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    they sign campbell 5x3 after we send them his rights. run a campbell vanecek tandem
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    11 juill. 2022 à 20 h 30
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    Wanna do another trade? ive got Gabriel's pizza for ya
    11 juill. 2022 à 20 h 31
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    Quoting: Neptune12
    Wanna do another trade? ive got Gabriel's pizza for ya


    what?
    11 juill. 2022 à 20 h 32
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    Devils aren't trading Blackwood for nothing and Fitz already said the tandem for next season will be Blackwood-Vanecek.

    Spread the word so there aren't 100 Leafs posts every day with Blackwood getting traded for UFA rights.
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    11 juill. 2022 à 20 h 33
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    Quoting: jake4leafs
    what?


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    11 juill. 2022 à 20 h 33
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    Devils aren't trading Blackwood for nothing and Fitz already said the tandem for next season will be Blackwood-Vanecek.

    Spread the word so there aren't 100 Leafs posts every day with Blackwood getting traded for UFA rights.


    capmbell better than both so theres that
    11 juill. 2022 à 20 h 34
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    if campbell agrees to sign with the devils ur gm gives up blackwood in a heartbeat
    11 juill. 2022 à 20 h 40
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    Dubway. Eat Mrazek. Refresh Murray.

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    11 juill. 2022 à 20 h 41
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    Quoting: MellowK
    Devils aren't trading Blackwood for nothing and Fitz already said the tandem for next season will be Blackwood-Vanecek.

    Spread the word so there aren't 100 Leafs posts every day with Blackwood getting traded for UFA rights.


    Less than 40 hours to ufa and NJ just gives Blackwood to Toronto? A 3 year 5 mil won't contract cut it for Campbell. Too many suitors. If he'd sign that Toronto would have signed him instead of Murray at 2 years 4.6 mil.
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    11 juill. 2022 à 20 h 41
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    Quoting: jake4leafs
    capmbell better than both so theres that


    And campbell isn’t resigning in Toronto so there’s that. UFA rights two days before the window opens aren’t worth even a 7th round pick. Devils haven’t shown interest in campbell so what makes you think you can get their 25 year old goalie for free basically.
    11 juill. 2022 à 20 h 42
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    Quoting: jake4leafs
    if campbell agrees to sign with the devils ur gm gives up blackwood in a heartbeat


    He trades him in a heartbeat. Too many teams looking for goalies.
    11 juill. 2022 à 20 h 43
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    Less than 40 hours to ufa and NJ just gives Blackwood to Toronto? A 3 year 5 mil won't contract cut it for Campbell. Too many suitors. If he'd sign that Toronto would have signed him instead of Murray at 2 years 4.6 mil.
    . They don’t give Blackwood. They replace him with Campbell
    11 juill. 2022 à 20 h 44
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    He trades him in a heartbeat. Too many teams looking for goalies.


    Georgiev went for a third. So did husso valle , I’d say the swap is pretty fair if The devils are interested and Campbell agrees to sign there
    11 juill. 2022 à 20 h 44
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    . They don’t give Blackwood. They replace him with Campbell


    They are giving him to Toronto. If they wait 40 hours they don’t have to pay a penny for his rights. They could do so many better things with that. Stop the delusion.
    11 juill. 2022 à 20 h 47
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    Georgiev went for a third. So did husso valle , I’d say the swap is pretty fair if The devils are interested and Campbell agrees to sign there


    Georgiev was an RFA. Husso was a UFA at the draft and his rights actually meant something and Detroit wanted to ensure they could negotiate with him. Campbells rights don’t mean anything 40 hours to them expiring. No reason why any team should give anything up for campbell.
    11 juill. 2022 à 20 h 47
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    They are giving him to Toronto. If they wait 40 hours they don’t have to pay a penny for his rights. They could do so many better things with that. Stop the delusion.

    Why wait 40 hours and risk that he signs with another team? Also I’m sure you can state your opinion while being respectful.
    11 juill. 2022 à 20 h 51
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    Quoting: jake4leafs
    Georgiev went for a third. So did husso valle , I’d say the swap is pretty fair if The devils are interested and Campbell agrees to sign there


    Georgiev had more team control left as an RFA; Ville Husso was going to be an in-demand UFA and Yzerman had a full week of exclusive negotiating rights.

    as it stands right now we are 39 hours away from free agency. Even if Tom Fitzgerald agrees with you and -wants- Jack Campbell, why would he give you anything for his rights when a)it's very obvious Toronto isn't re-signing him and b)he can just wait a day and negotiate the deal and keep whatever asset he would trade you. Then, if you want Blackwood, you actually give him something of value in return instead of this.
    11 juill. 2022 à 20 h 52
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    Quoting: dannibalcorpse
    Georgiev had more team control left as an RFA; Ville Husso was going to be an in-demand UFA and Yzerman had a full week of exclusive negotiating rights.
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    as it stands right now we are 39 hours away from free agency. Even if Tom Fitzgerald agrees with you and -wants- Jack Campbell, why would he give you anything for his rights when a)it's very obvious Toronto isn't re-signing him and b)he can just wait a day and negotiate the deal and keep whatever asset he would trade you. Then, if you want Blackwood, you actually give him something of value in return instead of this.


    So Valle is in demand but not Campbell ?
    11 juill. 2022 à 20 h 59
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    Quoting: jake4leafs
    So Valle is in demand but not Campbell ?


    When you've got 7 days to figure out if you can hammer out a deal, yeah, Husso's rights have more value than Campbell's day and a half's worth. There have been cases where a team *doesn't* figure it out and winds up trying to flip out the the guy again before UFA - something you can do when you've got the time (Islanders did this with Christian Ehrhoff's UFA rights all the way back in 2011.)

    At this point, the only real reason you'd want to go ahead and give up an asset for Campbell's UFA rights if you really wanted to give him that 8th year - something I don't think anyone is thinking of doing. Jersey is also in the position of already having Vanecek & Blackwood in house, and while Campbell might be better than them both, I don't think he's so much significantly better that you give up any sort of asset to get that extra 36 hours of negotiating before Wednesday. Mayyyyyyyyyyyyybe Fitz throws Toronto a 7th or the UFA rights to PK Subban or whatever nothingburger Dubas might want, but you're not getting anything better than that and you're certainly not getting Blackwood for free.
    11 juill. 2022 à 21 h 1
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    When you've got 7 days to figure out if you can hammer out a deal, yeah, Husso's rights have more value than Campbell's day and a half's worth. There have been cases where a team *doesn't* figure it out and winds up trying to flip out the the guy again before UFA - something you can do when you've got the time (Islanders did this with Christian Ehrhoff's UFA rights all the way back in 2011.)

    At this point, the only real reason you'd want to go ahead and give up an asset for Campbell's UFA rights if you really wanted to give him that 8th year - something I don't think anyone is thinking of doing. Jersey is also in the position of already having Vanecek & Blackwood in house, and while Campbell might be better than them both, I don't think he's so much significantly better that you give up any sort of asset to get that extra 36 hours of negotiating before Wednesday. Mayyyyyyyyyyyyybe Fitz throws Toronto a 7th or the UFA rights to PK Subban or whatever nothingburger Dubas might want, but you're not getting anything better than that and you're certainly not getting Blackwood for free.


    if a deal is in place, campbell agrees to sign, giving up blackwood for him isnt a problem,
    11 juill. 2022 à 21 h 17
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    Quoting: jake4leafs
    if a deal is in place, campbell agrees to sign, giving up blackwood for him isnt a problem,


    you're banking on an enormous "if" right there - and you're also just breezing over the fact that Campbell is signing for a least a $5M AAV while Blackwood makes $2.8M this year and Vanecek probably re-signs around $2M - so both the goalies currently in Jersey probably cost about the same as Campbell on his own, despite the fact that Campbell's track record isn't that much better than the 2 guys already in Newark *and* he's several years older than both of them:

    Campbell: 30 years old, .916 SV% / 2.53 GAA in 135 career GP
    Vaneeck: 26 years old, .908 SV% / 2.68 GAA in 79 career GP
    Blackwood: 25 years old, .907 SV % / 2.94 GAA in 130 career GP

    Put it this way: you're Tom Fitzgerald, Devils GM, and you're trying to build the best team possible. Which makes more sense to you:

    Scenario A: You have 2 goalies in house, but you like Jack Campbell. After noon on July 13, you start negotiating, and maybe he signs, maybe he doesn't. If he signs, you look at Mackenzie Blackwood and move him for a mid-round pick to a team looking to upgrade their goalie tandem.

    Scenario B: You have Vanecek & Blackwood in house a day and a half before free agency. You like Jack Campbell, and you trade Mackenzie Blackwood for the right to have an extra 36 hours to negotiate with Jack Campbell with no guarantee that he doesn't actually test free agency - after all, he's made it this far, what's another 36 hours to wait and be able to negotiate with the 31 other teams?
     
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