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Real Asset Management

Créé par: Hockeyplayer1
Équipe: 2022-23 Blackhawks de Chicago
Date de création initiale: 11 juill. 2022
Publié: 11 juill. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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I cannot stand watching GMs not extend qualifying offers to RFAs that are CLEARLY decent NHL players.
You are letting valuable assets exit your organization for nothing. Why not QO them and then trade them with retained salary before the year or even at the deadline. You can easily get draft capital which helps your rebuild.
As a GM your only job is to constantly increase the value of your assets (players, contracts, draft picks)
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
14 000 000 $
13 600 000 $
22 250 000 $
21 250 000 $
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CHI
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (ANA)
Détails additionnels:
Any Team
ANA
  1. Kubalik, Dominik
Détails additionnels:
2,000,000 retained salary
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CHI
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (ARI)
Détails additionnels:
Any Team
ARI
  1. Strome, Dylan
Détails additionnels:
1,800,000 Retained Salary
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2282 500 000 $62 705 962 $237 500 $1 700 000 $19 794 038 $
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
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10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
C
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UFA - 1
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2 625 000 $2 625 000 $
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UFA - 1
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2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
AG, C, AD
RFA - 1
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
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UFA - 2
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758 333 $758 333 $
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RFA - 2
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758 333 $758 333 $
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RFA - 2
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750 000 $750 000 $
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RFA - 1
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800 000 $800 000 $
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1 150 000 $1 150 000 $
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975 000 $975 000 $
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UFA - 1
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800 000 $800 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
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800 000 $800 000 $
AD, C
RFA - 2
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 8
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3 800 000 $3 800 000 $
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M-NTC
UFA - 2
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1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
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4 400 000 $4 400 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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1 350 000 $1 350 000 $
DG
RFA - 2
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
RFA - 1
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
DG
UFA - 1

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11 juill. 2022 à 10 h 59
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With both, because Kubalik or Strome and their agent can take the Hawks to arbitration which as widely reported, Strome would likely award him $4m to $5m; that's also why the Hawks have had trouble trading him...too big of a risk for any team. With Kubalik, it's harder to say what arbitration would have given, but his QO is $4m and that is rich coming off of a subpar performance last season for him. As UFAs, they lose arbitration rights.
11 juill. 2022 à 11 h 21
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Real asset management is trading them, along with De Haan, at the deadline. You can only retain three salaries a year, this would limit them to only being able to retain on Kane and likely unable to trade Toews at all. And if Davidson’s plan is to build this team through the draft, which it seems to be after not getting a single prospect back for Debrincat and Dach, you trade Strome, Kubalik and De Haan for whatever pick you can get. Building only through the draft is not a good plan. But if it’s your plan you need all the picks you can get. Even if they are 3rd, 4th, 5th rounders. Asset management has been truly awful for this organization for quite a while. Davidson does not seem to be making it better.
11 juill. 2022 à 11 h 58
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I would have kept them because they need to over ripen prospects. I would stick players back in the minors etc and use those two as placeholders. Then hope you can move them for futures. I would also save my RS for Kane and Toews. Real asset mgmt to me is move Kane now while there are numerous teams available to trade with and more cap flexibility. Avoid the problem the Sens had with Stone and Duchene.
12 juill. 2022 à 13 h 40
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Quoting: ChiHawk
With both, because Kubalik or Strome and their agent can take the Hawks to arbitration which as widely reported, Strome would likely award him $4m to $5m; that's also why the Hawks have had trouble trading him...too big of a risk for any team. With Kubalik, it's harder to say what arbitration would have given, but his QO is $4m and that is rich coming off of a subpar performance last season for him. As UFAs, they lose arbitration rights.


So what they go to arbitration? Trading them even after arbitration with 1/2 retained proves that whatever team they go to is getting a player at half their AAV market value. If you're rebuilding, you do not let players with value walk for nothing.

Quoting: HiddenValley
Real asset management is trading them, along with De Haan, at the deadline. You can only retain three salaries a year, this would limit them to only being able to retain on Kane and likely unable to trade Toews at all.


This is a good point, the could only do it with one of them. Still should have been done. They really should have traded the players rights for ANYTHING prior to the QO deadline.
12 juill. 2022 à 13 h 45
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So what they go to arbitration? Trading them even after arbitration with 1/2 retained proves that whatever team they go to is getting a player at half their AAV market value. If you're rebuilding, you do not let players with value walk for nothing.



This is a good point, the could only do it with one of them. Still should have been done. They really should have traded the players rights for ANYTHING prior to the QO deadline.


You only have 3 retention spots, why would you waste those on players that aren't under contract and one of which (Kubalik) had a real down year and has a $4m qualify offer. Especially in the case of Kubalik is makes zero sense. Strome would have likely gotten $4.5M, some analysts say $5.5M. There's simply not that much value in using a retention spot versus using it on Kane as example who at $5.25M retained will get a nice haul back. McCabe and Murphy are two others that probably need to be moved eventually.
12 juill. 2022 à 13 h 51
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You only have 3 retention spots, why would you waste those on players that aren't under contract and one of which (Kubalik) had a real down year and has a $4m qualify offer. Especially in the case of Kubalik is makes zero sense. Strome would have likely gotten $4.5M, some analysts say $5.5M. There's simply not that much value in using a retention spot versus using it on Kane as example who at $5.25M retained will get a nice haul back. McCabe and Murphy are two others that probably need to be moved eventually.


Kane, Toews and one of these two. You would not need to retain on Murphy or McCabe at the deadline. You're arguing you'd rather have zero value for assets vs any value. I guess there are more people than I thought who cant see basics of how to grow team value
12 juill. 2022 à 14 h 11
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Kane, Toews and one of these two. You would not need to retain on Murphy or McCabe at the deadline. You're arguing you'd rather have zero value for assets vs any value. I guess there are more people than I thought who cant see basics of how to grow team value


#1) No need to start insulting people because you don't agree with someone. I know that's part of the weak societal culture we live in nowadays but it's incredibly immature and lacks any intellectual integrity.
#2) You will 1000% have to retain on McCabe, he's not worth his cap hit; he played like absolutely crap last season.
#3) You weaponize the cap on other teams. For example, pickup Zucker from Pitsburgh for a 2nd, retain half and trade him at the deadline for 1st or 2nd. You are getting assets twice instead of negotiating with a player who has arbitration rights and risking arbitration; they are not assets unless they have value today which they clearly don't with arbitration rights and the lack of any teams wanting their RFAs with arbitration rights. Alternatively, there are plenty of cap dumps the hawks can pick up from other teams and make the pay to move them, retain and flip them at the TDL or in another year. A lot less risky.
13 juill. 2022 à 18 h 32
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#1) No need to start insulting people because you don't agree with someone. I know that's part of the weak societal culture we live in nowadays but it's incredibly immature and lacks any intellectual integrity.
#2) You will 1000% have to retain on McCabe, he's not worth his cap hit; he played like absolutely crap last season.
#3) You weaponize the cap on other teams. For example, pickup Zucker from Pitsburgh for a 2nd, retain half and trade him at the deadline for 1st or 2nd. You are getting assets twice instead of negotiating with a player who has arbitration rights and risking arbitration; they are not assets unless they have value today which they clearly don't with arbitration rights and the lack of any teams wanting their RFAs with arbitration rights. Alternatively, there are plenty of cap dumps the hawks can pick up from other teams and make the pay to move them, retain and flip them at the TDL or in another year. A lot less risky.


Really not sure where the insult was here?
13 juill. 2022 à 22 h 2
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Really not sure where the insult was here?


I guess there are more people than I thought who cant see basics of how to grow team value
14 juill. 2022 à 10 h 16
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I guess there are more people than I thought who cant see basics of how to grow team value


This is what you take as an insult?? Charmin, sheesh
 
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