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2021-2022 NHL Offseason Discussion Thread #6 - Alex DeBrincat is an Ottawa Senator

11 juill. 2022 à 22 h 42
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what in the

samsonov gone, caps dont have a goalie until kuemper
milano gone, zegras in shock
murray to the leafs, hopefully they can do something about it

i miss ~5 hours and its like five of the most important hours of the offszn isnt it
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11 juill. 2022 à 22 h 43
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Everybody in the NHL is connected to everybody else. It’s why there’s never any new blood, which causes people to move around and just repeat the cycle. I guarantee you there is a former teammate or former coach or former member of the Leafs scouting staff or something that connects literally every NHL team to Matthews. That doesn’t mean he’s going to every other NHL team.


Just found iot funny how some old tweets reemerged as soon as the buyouts/ no qualified happened

In Milano's case it was a St.Louis style internal fighting that has them connected which is funny as you dont see Matthews being that kind of guy
11 juill. 2022 à 22 h 45
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what in the

samsonov gone, caps dont have a goalie until kuemper
milano gone, zegras in shock
murray to the leafs, hopefully they can do something about it

i miss ~5 hours and its like five of the most important hours of the offszn isnt it


Man if Kuemper does a grubauer in Washington thats not gonna look good and the fact they sent away 2 young goalies to potentially make it happen is shocking
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11 juill. 2022 à 22 h 52
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How are the people who are in love with Dubas going to spin this absolute dumpster fire of a trade?
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11 juill. 2022 à 22 h 55
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Plot Twist: What if Washington is actually going after Oettinger?
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11 juill. 2022 à 22 h 55
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Plot Twist: What if Washington is actually going after Oettinger?


Sayonara to their future
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11 juill. 2022 à 22 h 57
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How are the people who are in love with Dubas going to spin this absolute dumpster fire of a trade?


You can’t. My respect for Dubas vanished almost entirely. Could he bounce back? Maybe. But it’s a massive risk and has potential to backfire hard and cost Dubas his job. Which at this point I’m fine with (about Dubas losing his job I mean.
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11 juill. 2022 à 22 h 59
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You can’t. My respect for Dubas vanished almost entirely. Could he bounce back? Maybe. But it’s a massive risk and has potential to backfire hard and cost Dubas his job. Which at this point I’m fine with (about Dubas losing his job I mean.


If this isn’t what it takes to make people wake up and realize the guy is not made of gold I don’t know what will. This goaltending is so awful that we will be finishing at best 3rd and probably 4th in the division. There’s no way this team gets out of the first round.
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11 juill. 2022 à 23 h 3
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You can’t. My respect for Dubas vanished almost entirely. Could he bounce back? Maybe. But it’s a massive risk and has potential to backfire hard and cost Dubas his job. Which at this point I’m fine with (about Dubas losing his job I mean.


What a lot of people seem to not understand if no matter who he signed we could have been screwed

Lets say we signed Kuemper 6mill x 6 years and he becomes Seattle's Grubauer would we have been happy no

Or lets say we extended Campbell 5mill x 5 years but he plays like he did in the second half of last year would fans have been happy no

This not only costed less but we got picks out of it

There really was no upgrade it net, there is no Vasilesky, Ottinger, or Shesterkin on the market rn. If there was 100% that goalie would be way out of our price range and be in the 10mill range
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11 juill. 2022 à 23 h 4
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Leafs fans are harsh lol. This is maybe the first bad trade Dubas has made, plus one 2nd round selection that was a slight reach by a round (which he followed up by taking a guy in the 3rd who coulda gone in the 2nd). Like, it’s not his fault and never has been. He’s definitely a top half GM if not top 10, and has built literally the best Leafs team ever. He can’t force the players to play good when it matters.
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11 juill. 2022 à 23 h 4
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Leafs fans are harsh lol. This is maybe the first bad trade Dubas has made, plus one 2nd round selection that was a slight reach by a round (which he followed up by taking a guy in the 3rd who coulda gone in the 2nd). Like, it’s not his fault and never has been. He’s definitely a top half GM if not top 10, and has built literally the best Leafs team ever. He can’t force the players to play good when it matters.


My post above highlights why I think its fine

As imagine if Dubas signs Kuemper 6mill x 6 years and he falls off a cliff like Grubauer did

People would be begging for Murray lul

In the end no matter what he did it would be up to the goalie and as Dangle said

Goalies are silly geese

Like at this rate I dont think Vasi would satisfy Toronto as they would be like yeah but he costs 9.5mill
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11 juill. 2022 à 23 h 10
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Figured as much





I feel its probs gonna be Reimer or Allen via trade or Samsonov via FA.

As idk if Comrie can handle 35 games
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11 juill. 2022 à 23 h 11
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Plot Twist: What if Washington is actually going after Oettinger?


Do they got enough cap space for the 4 1sts OS price as anything less is pretty much a wasted OS
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11 juill. 2022 à 23 h 19
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What a lot of people seem to not understand if no matter who he signed we could have been screwed

Lets say we signed Kuemper 6mill x 6 years and he becomes Seattle's Grubauer would we have been happy no

Or lets say we extended Campbell 5mill x 5 years but he plays like he did in the second half of last year would fans have been happy no

This not only costed less but we got picks out of it

There really was no upgrade it net, there is no Vasilesky, Ottinger, or Shesterkin on the market rn. If there was 100% that goalie would be way out of our price range and be in the 10mill range


What? What am I reading? No one in their right mind would say this is better than paying Darcy or Jack… or Husso! Honest to god we would have been better off signing Brayden Holtby and Eric Comrie on short term deals and rotating them with a few games for Kallgren mixed in. This is a very bad trade
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11 juill. 2022 à 23 h 21
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Leafs fans are harsh lol. This is maybe the first bad trade Dubas has made, plus one 2nd round selection that was a slight reach by a round (which he followed up by taking a guy in the 3rd who coulda gone in the 2nd). Like, it’s not his fault and never has been. He’s definitely a top half GM if not top 10, and has built literally the best Leafs team ever. He can’t force the players to play good when it matters.


“The best Leafs team ever”? How can you type that and not fall over from laughter?
11 juill. 2022 à 23 h 26
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“The best Leafs team ever”? How can you type that and not fall over from laughter?

It’s literally facts. 115 points is a Leafs record. There are more than 6 teams in the NHL now mate. It’s a lot tougher to win, but the GM has built a team more than capable of doing it. Their failures are entirely on the players, and maybe a little on the coaching.
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11 juill. 2022 à 23 h 27
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It’s literally facts. 115 points is a Leafs record. There are more than 6 teams in the NHL now mate. It’s a lot tougher to win, but the GM has built a team more than capable of doing it. Their failures are entirely on the players, and maybe a little on the coaching.


I’ve seen multiple teams that are better than this team. This team was eliminated in the first round. It’s not even the best Leafs team of the 21st century
11 juill. 2022 à 23 h 34
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I wonder where Gabriel Carlsson ends up

As hes a good third pair D with size and some skill
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11 juill. 2022 à 23 h 36
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It’s literally facts. 115 points is a Leafs record. There are more than 6 teams in the NHL now mate. It’s a lot tougher to win, but the GM has built a team more than capable of doing it. Their failures are entirely on the players, and maybe a little on the coaching.


Like if anything Colorado has demonstrated to a T you dont need a Vasi level goaltender to win

Like Kuemper had a 0.902 at the end and if it wasnt for the team in front of him that would have never got anyone else to the finals
11 juill. 2022 à 23 h 57
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If this isn’t what it takes to make people wake up and realize the guy is not made of gold I don’t know what will. This goaltending is so awful that we will be finishing at best 3rd and probably 4th in the division. There’s no way this team gets out of the first round.


I did think Dubas is an decent GM, he’s made some good, some bad moves. This is an atrocious move. I’d say he’s at best an old GM. He certainly isn’t the amazing GM some people think he is (but to be fair he also isn’t the horrible one a lot of people think he is). Not sure why people either live him or hate him, and can’t just accept that he’s both nothing special and not terrible.
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11 juill. 2022 à 23 h 59
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Wait wait wait Ryan Donato didnt get a QO?

What am I missing here

Also apparently Sprong and Dennis Cholowski were also not given QO

Dennis Cholowski made sense but surprised with Sprong

Honestly if your up against the cap and want cheap depth the hockey gods have delivered this year
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12 juill. 2022 à 0 h 3
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What a lot of people seem to not understand if no matter who he signed we could have been screwed

Lets say we signed Kuemper 6mill x 6 years and he becomes Seattle's Grubauer would we have been happy no

Or lets say we extended Campbell 5mill x 5 years but he plays like he did in the second half of last year would fans have been happy no

This not only costed less but we got picks out of it

There really was no upgrade it net, there is no Vasilesky, Ottinger, or Shesterkin on the market rn. If there was 100% that goalie would be way out of our price range and be in the 10mill range


Dude, stop trying to act like Murray is anywhere near that of Campbell or Kuemper. Both guys are significantly better and I would have preferred them by a mile. They would have been worth the extra 0.5-1.5 mil easily.
12 juill. 2022 à 0 h 5
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Dude, stop trying to act like Murray is anywhere near that of Campbell or Kuemper. Both guys are significantly better and I would have preferred them by a mile. They would have been worth the extra 0.5-1.5 mil easily.


Campbell literally was worse than Murray for a whole 2 months lul

Since Jan 1 Campbell was a 0.893 and Murray was a 0.914

Only difference was Murray suffered an injury and was out for the remainder of the year. If he continued playing like he did a 0.915 could have happened

Campbell just became a starter and we saw when the pressure got to much he caved. He bounced back a bit but Oct Campbell was gone forever

And as for Kuemper playoff Kuemper was all over the place to where one moment he looked like he would choke only to come back and rescue his team the next game
12 juill. 2022 à 0 h 7
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Campbell literally was worse than Murray for a whole 2 months lul

Since Jan 1 Campbell was a 0.893 and Murray was a 0.914

Campbell just became a starter and we saw when the pressure got to much he caved. He bounced back a bit but Oct Campbell was gone forever

And as for Kuemper playoff Kuemper was all over the place to where one moment he looked like he would choke only to come back and rescue his team the next game


Campbell is gonna go to Edmonton and play terrible hockey
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12 juill. 2022 à 0 h 7
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