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No Rest in the Rest of the Off Season

Créé par: BeautifulIdiot
Équipe: 2022-23 Canucks de Vancouver
Date de création initiale: 9 juill. 2022
Publié: 10 juill. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Rangers fans, Please read.

I know I will get the Schneider is untouchable, I get it, I know how you feel, although I disagree I will hear you out. This trade is more of a place holder both in terms of the team and in terms of the value, there is almost 2 trades in it. I think and heard from Jeff Patterson that he heard that NYR has raised their price that they will pay for miller.

Roy will probably get an OS so getting multiple assets will help more

Not saying that OTT will take on myers but more looking that the canucks would trade him for a bad contract and a 2nd
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
53 500 000 $
2950 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
11 000 000 $
11 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
VAN
  1. Roy, Nicolas [Droits de RFA]
VGK
  1. Lammikko, Juho [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (NYR)
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (VAN)
2.
VAN
  1. Watson, Austin
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (OTT)
Détails additionnels:
any not great contract for 1.5m ish, any team
3.
VAN
  1. Kravtsov, Vitali
  2. Othmann, Brennan
  3. Schneider, Braden
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (NYR)
Détails additionnels:
Schneider, Othmann, 1st for miller retained

Kravtsov for Pearson, and Woo
NYR
  1. Miller, J.T. (2 625 000 $ retained)
  2. Pearson, Tanner
  3. Woo, Jett
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Enfoui
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2024
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2025
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2382 500 000 $74 226 667 $1 250 000 $2 400 000 $8 273 333 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
4 950 000 $4 950 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
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7 350 000 $7 350 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
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6 650 000 $6 650 000 $
AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
950 000 $950 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
4 125 000 $4 125 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD, AG
RFA - 2
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 5
Logo de Rangers de New York
875 000 $875 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
891 667 $891 667 $ (Bonis de performance300 000 $$300K)
AG, AD
RFA - 1
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 3
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
950 000 $950 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
2 650 000 $2 650 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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7 850 000 $7 850 000 $
DG
UFA - 5
Logo de Rangers de New York
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
UFA - 4
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
7 260 000 $7 260 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
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762 500 $762 500 $
G
UFA - 2
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850 000 $850 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
850 000 $850 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
762 500 $762 500 $
C
UFA - 2
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1

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10 juill. 2022 à 0 h 24
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Rangers fans, as said in the description...

I know I will get the Schneider is untouchable, I get it, I know how you feel, although I disagree I will hear you out. This trade is more of a place holder both in terms of the team and in terms of the value, there is almost 2 trades in it. I think and heard from Jeff Patterson that he heard that NYR has raised their price that they will pay for miller.
10 juill. 2022 à 0 h 30
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Othmann is definitely an untouchable, he is clearly our #1 prospect. Now if there is a sign and trade with JT Miller where the Nucks lock him up 5 more years and are willing to retain salary for 5 years, then you are onto something, but the Rangers need players on ELCs, which Othmann is when he likely comes to NY in the 23-24 season. I don't see Schenider being moved either. If there is a trade to be made it will likely be some combo of a 1st, Chytil or Kakko or Kravstov, and Lundkvist or Jones, if salary is retained an additional pick. If that isn't to your liking, find another team that will give you a better offer.
10 juill. 2022 à 0 h 39
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Quoting: XBestOneYetX
Othmann is definitely an untouchable, he is clearly our #1 prospect. Now if there is a sign and trade with JT Miller where the Nucks lock him up 5 more years and are willing to retain salary for 5 years, then you are onto something, but the Rangers need players on ELCs, which Othmann is when he likely comes to NY in the 23-24 season. I don't see Schenider being moved either. If there is a trade to be made it will likely be some combo of a 1st, Chytil or Kakko or Kravstov, and Lundkvist or Jones, if salary is retained an additional pick. If that isn't to your liking, find another team that will give you a better offer.


I respect that you dont think that he is worth 1st, Kakko, Lundkvist but keep in mind, although he is about to turn 30, he just had a 99 point season. He is a player that fits what the rags are looking for, and to get a 99 point player, you need to give up your best prospect, look at recent trades like the eichel trade, I am not saying that miller is eichel, but he is more physical and has a better bill of health, he is probably worth 3/4 Eichel for when he was traded, and JE returned a

very good roster player on a team friendly deal
best prospect in system
1st
2nd

miller wont return a tuch, but he will return the top prospect, a roster player, a 1st and that is about 3/4 eichel
10 juill. 2022 à 1 h 15
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Easiest NO THANKS Drury will ever have to say
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10 juill. 2022 à 1 h 17
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I respect that you dont think that he is worth 1st, Kakko, Lundkvist but keep in mind, although he is about to turn 30, he just had a 99 point season. He is a player that fits what the rags are looking for, and to get a 99 point player, you need to give up your best prospect, look at recent trades like the eichel trade, I am not saying that miller is eichel, but he is more physical and has a better bill of health, he is probably worth 3/4 Eichel for when he was traded, and JE returned a

very good roster player on a team friendly deal
best prospect in system
1st
2nd

miller wont return a tuch, but he will return the top prospect, a roster player, a 1st and that is about 3/4 eichel


You're comparing the Eichel trade where Jack had 4+ years left on his deal to Miller who would be a 1 year rental for the Rangers. Nowhere near the same thing or same trade value.
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10 juill. 2022 à 10 h 22
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You're comparing the Eichel trade where Jack had 4+ years left on his deal to Miller who would be a 1 year rental for the Rangers. Nowhere near the same thing or same trade value.


Disagree, although he did have term and age on miller, he was a very distressed asset. It was a very good player in a very bad situation, and if you read my descripton and my header comment you would see that this is more of the template and that there has been movement.
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10 juill. 2022 à 11 h 46
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Disagree, although he did have term and age on miller, he was a very distressed asset. It was a very good player in a very bad situation, and if you read my descripton and my header comment you would see that this is more of the template and that there has been movement.


You disagree trading for someone with 4+ years left on a deal compared to just 1 is not the same thing? Ok, then not much to talk about because that is detached from reality. Good luck with this nonsense trade because getting Othmann and Schneider will never happen.
10 juill. 2022 à 12 h 43
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Quoting: BeautifulIdiot
I respect that you dont think that he is worth 1st, Kakko, Lundkvist but keep in mind, although he is about to turn 30, he just had a 99 point season. He is a player that fits what the rags are looking for, and to get a 99 point player, you need to give up your best prospect, look at recent trades like the eichel trade, I am not saying that miller is eichel, but he is more physical and has a better bill of health, he is probably worth 3/4 Eichel for when he was traded, and JE returned a

very good roster player on a team friendly deal
best prospect in system
1st
2nd

miller wont return a tuch, but he will return the top prospect, a roster player, a 1st and that is about 3/4 eichel


I didn't say that I don't think Miller is worth or will get a package of that caliber you are asking for (but more likely at the deadline as opposed to when the season starts)... but the Rangers cannot afford ro deplete the system for a 99 point player who is going to command 8-9 million a season (so basically a rental) with K'Andre Miller and Laf needing new contracts next season. Also, as I stated above, the Rangers need players on ELC deals, Othmann fits that mold and has the best chance of any Rangers forward prospect to make the pro-team for the 23-24 season when Laf, Miller, Kravstov (if here), Jones, will all be off ELC deals. At that time only Schenider will be on an ELC. I believe the Nucks will find a trade partner like the Caps, Pitt or the Devils who may be willing to pay more than the Rangers will for Miller then can actually lock him up long term.
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10 juill. 2022 à 21 h 12
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I didn't say that I don't think Miller is worth or will get a package of that caliber you are asking for (but more likely at the deadline as opposed to when the season starts)... but the Rangers cannot afford ro deplete the system for a 99 point player who is going to command 8-9 million a season (so basically a rental) with K'Andre Miller and Laf needing new contracts next season. Also, as I stated above, the Rangers need players on ELC deals, Othmann fits that mold and has the best chance of any Rangers forward prospect to make the pro-team for the 23-24 season when Laf, Miller, Kravstov (if here), Jones, will all be off ELC deals. At that time only Schenider will be on an ELC. I believe the Nucks will find a trade partner like the Caps, Pitt or the Devils who may be willing to pay more than the Rangers will for Miller then can actually lock him up long term.


well put, understood
 
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