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Best Case Scenario Tarasenko Trade

Équipe: 2022-23 Blues de St-Louis
Date de création initiale: 6 juill. 2022
Publié: 6 juill. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
33 500 000 $
33 000 000 $
22 500 000 $
89 500 000 $
21 250 000 $
21 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
44 500 000 $
21 250 000 $
Transactions
1.
STL
  1. Necas, Martin [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (CAR)
Détails additionnels:
Carolina will include a 2023 2nd round pick if Tarasenko scores 30 goals in 2022-23 or if the Hurricanes reach the Eastern Conference Finals and Tarasenko plays in 50% of playoff games
2.
STL
  1. Sandin, Rasmus [Droits de RFA]
Détails additionnels:
Sign and trade
TOR
  1. Husso, Ville
Détails additionnels:
Sign and trade
3.
STL
  1. Tkachuk, Matthew [Droits de RFA]
CGY
  1. Neighbours, Jake
  2. Perunovich, Scott
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (STL)
4.
STL
    Anaheim willing to take on bad contracts for assets, team doesn't own a 3rd round pick this year.
    ANA
    1. Scandella, Marco
    2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (STL)
    Détails additionnels:
    Negotiating rights to Dakota Joshua, who Elliotte Friedman is saying is getting a lot of buzz as a Group 6 UFA
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    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2282 500 000 $76 587 500 $1 100 000 $0 $5 912 500 $
    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
    9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 8
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    2 800 000 $2 800 000 $
    C, AD
    UFA - 1
    3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
    AD
    RFA - 2
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    5 800 000 $5 800 000 $
    AG, AD, C
    M-NTC
    UFA - 3
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    1 875 000 $1 875 000 $
    C
    UFA - 1
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    2 800 000 $2 800 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 1
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    6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
    C, AG
    NTC
    UFA - 6
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    4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
    AG, AD
    NTC
    UFA - 4
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    2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 1
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    750 000 $750 000 $
    AG, AD
    RFA - 1
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    1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
    AG, AD
    RFA - 1
    Logo de Blues de St-Louis
    750 000 $750 000 $
    C, AG
    RFA - 1
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    750 000 $750 000 $
    AG
    UFA - 1
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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    6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
    DG
    NTC
    UFA - 5
    Logo de Blues de St-Louis
    6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
    DD
    NTC
    UFA - 5
    Logo de Blues de St-Louis
    6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
    G
    NTC
    UFA - 5
    3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Blues de St-Louis
    6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
    DD
    NTC
    UFA - 8
    Logo de Blues de St-Louis
    1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Blues de St-Louis
    950 000 $950 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Blues de St-Louis
    1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
    G
    UFA - 3
    Logo de Blues de St-Louis
    762 500 $762 500 $
    DG
    UFA - 2

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    6 juill. 2022 à 13 h 34
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    You think negotiation rights for a UFA equate to getting a top4 dman?
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    6 juill. 2022 à 13 h 37
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    RFA rights are significantly more valuable than UFA rights, st louis would have to add heavily for the leafs to even think about it
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    6 juill. 2022 à 13 h 38
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    The Canes aren’t trading Necas for what essentially would be a rental
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    6 juill. 2022 à 13 h 44
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    Adding to this - Seravalli said the Canes are very unlikely to trade Necas today in the same conversation where he brought up the Canes and VT.

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    The Canes aren’t trading Necas for what essentially would be a rental
    6 juill. 2022 à 13 h 46
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    Idk if the leafs should do that. They could just sign husso for free and free up a roster spot on the right for sandin my trading holl…
    6 juill. 2022 à 13 h 51
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    Quoting: TooMalevolent
    You think negotiation rights for a UFA equate to getting a top4 dman?


    If you read the additional notes, it says a sign and trade. Blues only send Husso if they know they can sign Sandin, and even though Toronto probably won't have the money to sign Sandin anyway, they only make the trade if they know Husso will sign with them at the AAV they want.
    6 juill. 2022 à 14 h 10
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    Quoting: forthosewhoarehomesick
    If you read the additional notes, it says a sign and trade. Blues only send Husso if they know they can sign Sandin, and even though Toronto probably won't have the money to sign Sandin anyway, they only make the trade if they know Husso will sign with them at the AAV they want.


    that gets you a 5th, not a good young RFA
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    6 juill. 2022 à 14 h 41
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    Quoting: forthosewhoarehomesick
    If you read the additional notes, it says a sign and trade. Blues only send Husso if they know they can sign Sandin, and even though Toronto probably won't have the money to sign Sandin anyway, they only make the trade if they know Husso will sign with them at the AAV they want.


    Let's break this down. Firstly, I did read your notes. It's totally nonsensical. For starters, UFA rights and RFA rights are different. St Louis has zero control or leverage over Husso doing anything. Why would the Leafs not just wait for Husso to be UFA instead of giving up a top4 dman? More interesting from your thinking, why would Husso, who is an UFA, not go to a market where 10 teams will be looking at him (well reported that a ton of teams would be interested)? Does he want to do St Louis a favour and make the team he's going to worse? Can he not wait 1week? This is the reason why sign and trades don't exist in the NHL. Also it's not like anyone is even going to give him 8 year term.

    Your point on Sandin is not true. Despite what has become incredibly over-blown (makes sense- leaf things sell the most), Sandin's issue is not contract-related directly. It's fit. He sees the left-side full and wonders about his place. But the Leafs still like him, he's the GMs 1st pick, and they value him highly. You have Perunovich in a deal for an elite player here. Watch both players and see how close Sandin and Perunovich are.
    6 juill. 2022 à 15 h 27
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    Quoting: MaybeorMaybeNot
    Let's break this down. Firstly, I did read your notes. It's totally nonsensical. For starters, UFA rights and RFA rights are different. St Louis has zero control or leverage over Husso doing anything. Why would the Leafs not just wait for Husso to be UFA instead of giving up a top4 dman? More interesting from your thinking, why would Husso, who is an UFA, not go to a market where 10 teams will be looking at him (well reported that a ton of teams would be interested)? Does he want to do St Louis a favour and make the team he's going to worse? Can he not wait 1week? This is the reason why sign and trades don't exist in the NHL. Also it's not like anyone is even going to give him 8 year term.

    Your point on Sandin is not true. Despite what has become incredibly over-blown (makes sense- leaf things sell the most), Sandin's issue is not contract-related directly. It's fit. He sees the left-side full and wonders about his place. But the Leafs still like him, he's the GMs 1st pick, and they value him highly. You have Perunovich in a deal for an elite player here. Watch both players and see how close Sandin and Perunovich are.


    If Husso wants to go to Toronto, it would make sense to get the deal done sooner rather than later. That's not helping out the Blues, that's helping his new team have a better understanding of the cap heading into free agency. Also, I don't think Husso's going to get anything better than a 4x4.5 deal. Too small of a sample size to pay big, and he'll trade dollars for job security.

    Fit and cap hit go hand in hand. You're not going to extend an RFA and give him $3mil+ to play on his off hand, and you're certainly not paying that for a 7th defenseman. It's going to be easier to trade Sandin than Muzzin, and you can get a better goalie than say, Korpisalo, by doing so. Your points about Dubas drafting him and wanting to keep him though are valid. GMs love their guys and don't want the ego hit of moving on from someone they drafted, especially in the first round.
    6 juill. 2022 à 15 h 41
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    Quoting: forthosewhoarehomesick
    If Husso wants to go to Toronto, it would make sense to get the deal done sooner rather than later. That's not helping out the Blues, that's helping his new team have a better understanding of the cap heading into free agency. Also, I don't think Husso's going to get anything better than a 4x4.5 deal. Too small of a sample size to pay big, and he'll trade dollars for job security.

    Fit and cap hit go hand in hand. You're not going to extend an RFA and give him $3mil+ to play on his off hand, and you're certainly not paying that for a 7th defenseman. It's going to be easier to trade Sandin than Muzzin, and you can get a better goalie than say, Korpisalo, by doing so. Your points about Dubas drafting him and wanting to keep him though are valid. GMs love their guys and don't want the ego hit of moving on from someone they drafted, especially in the first round.


    It wouldn't make sense for Husso, I don't understand what you don't get about this. And let's say Leafs somehow got word from his camp that he desperately wanted to sign with them, or any team for argument sake, but only if they traded and signed him right now (instead again, waiting a week), the return for that is still not a top4 dman. Lol that's outrageous. It's maybe at most a 6th pick. You can't even make the argument here that a higher asset is required because they are going full term with the player in order to save against the cap hit. Wild take. Again, you taking a 5th for Perunovich?
     
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