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Créé par: Jimbo1119

Équipe: 2022-23 Rangers de New York

Date de création initiale: 5 juill. 2022

Publié: 5 juill. 2022

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

Idea here is to solidify the top 6 (Copp) while moving a very valuable player (Miller).

Not sure about the valuations in this deal- not familiar with where LA stands on Pinelli (a real good prospect going into D+2 year who I'm guessing jumps from juniors to AHL this year).

Moving Miller would sidestep the cap crunch next year, all the while adding a C prospect to the NYR shallow C depth....a prospect who currently projects as an eventual top 6 C.

Of course NYR D takes a hit...but this is a position of organizational strength.

In the end, the question is who is more important to this team going forward:
Miller as a cornerstone to NYR D?
or
Copp as a pillar of the F group going forward?
NOTE: depending on $, Trocheck might even be an option in this type scenario (if prefered over Copp)

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA		ANS	CAP HIT
Kakko, Kaapo		2	2 300 000 $

UFA		ANS	CAP HIT
Lindgren, Charlie		2	800 000 $
Copp, Andrew		5	5 350 000 $

Transactions

NYR

Pinelli, Francesco
Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (LAK)

LAK

Miller, K'Andre

NYR

Choix de 4e ronde en 2022 (NYR)

MTL

Gauthier, Julien

NYR

Choix de 4e ronde en 2022 (ARI)

WPG

Reaves, Ryan
Choix de 6e ronde en 2023 (WPG)

Rachats de contrats

Kevin Shattenkirk: 1 433 333 $
Dan Girardi: 1 111 111 $
Anthony Deangelo: 883 334 $
Brad Richards: 0 $

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2022
2023
2024

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
22	82 500 000 $	81 648 136 $	0 $	4 100 000 $	851 864 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Kreider, Chris 6 500 000 $6 500 000 $ AG NMC UFA - 5	Zibanejad, Mika 8 500 000 $8 500 000 $ C NMC UFA - 8	Lafrenière, Alexis 925 000 $925 000 $ (2 850 000 $$3M) AG, AD RFA - 1
Panarin, Artemi 11 642 857 $11 642 857 $ AG NMC UFA - 4	Copp, Andrew 5 350 000 $5 350 000 $ C, AG, AD UFA - 5	Kakko, Kaapo 2 300 000 $2 300 000 $ AD RFA - 2
Goodrow, Barclay 3 641 667 $3 641 667 $ C, AG M-NTC UFA - 5	Chytil, Filip 2 300 000 $2 300 000 $ C, AG UFA - 1	Kravtsov, Vitali 875 000 $875 000 $ AG, AD RFA - 1
Othmann, Brennan 894 167 $894 167 $ AG RFA - 4	Brodzinski, Jonny 762 500 $762 500 $ C UFA - 2	Blais, Samuel 1 525 000 $1 525 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1
Hunt, Dryden 762 500 $762 500 $ AG, AD UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Lindgren, Ryan 3 000 000 $3 000 000 $ DG RFA - 2		Shesterkin, Igor 5 666 667 $5 666 667 $ G UFA - 3
Lundkvist, Nils 925 000 $925 000 $ (850 000 $$850K) DD RFA - 2	Fox, Adam 9 500 000 $9 500 000 $ DD UFA - 7
	Trouba, Jacob 8 000 000 $8 000 000 $ DD NMC UFA - 4	Lindgren, Charlie 800 000 $800 000 $ G UFA - 3
Jones, Zachary 925 000 $925 000 $ DG RFA - 1	Schneider, Braden 925 000 $925 000 $ (400 000 $$400K) DD RFA - 2
Nemeth, Patrik 2 500 000 $2 500 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 2

5 juill. 2022 à 13 h 23

tkecanuck341

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Kings would go for this. Pinelli is a quality prospect, but the Kings have too many center prospects ahead of him at the moment, and they have an obvious need at LHD.

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5 juill. 2022 à 13 h 26

ItsBreach

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this is a weird move. i don't see the rangers moving on from miller unless they get a crazy return. and this return would have to be an established nhl player

5 juill. 2022 à 13 h 28

Howie

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Copp is testing fa

5 juill. 2022 à 13 h 33

Enrique

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Kings would take this and run. Can I ask why you would want Pinelli? Hes a b+ prospect. Turcotte and Vilardi are the better players/prospects.

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5 juill. 2022 à 13 h 35

hero9154

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Rangers decline.

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5 juill. 2022 à 13 h 35

saysthemachine

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K'Andre has the highest upside out of all our D men. There's no reason to trade him. He made the top 4 out of camp. He's poised to pay out better than a 2C.

5 juill. 2022 à 13 h 36

Fox_Czar_Cup

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Delete before other fan bases read this lol. Fox KAM & BS are our future D core! Hopefully with Robertson. Jones & Nils are expendable. Lindgren & Trouba may be gone in a few years. Copp is average and soon overpaid

5 juill. 2022 à 13 h 37

Mike_Gartner

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in what world does it make sense to keep Copp over Miller?

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5 juill. 2022 à 14 h 50

OldNYIfan

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Echoing my friend @Enrique, we offer you your choice of Pinelli, Turcotte or Vilardi plus our 2022 second for Miller.

5 juill. 2022 à 14 h 56

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Jimbo1119

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Quoting: tkecanuck341

Kings would go for this. Pinelli is a quality prospect, but the Kings have too many center prospects ahead of him at the moment, and they have an obvious need at LHD.

As I said in the description, the idea behind this is to move from a position of depth to acquire a C who projects as a top 6 C. Don't know much about Pinelli except that he's a very young prospect with some potential. Miller, of course is a top 4 D right now- and has a lot more upside....so yeah- to appease all the NYR fans who want me to delete this- to make this deal I guess would want more coming back to NYR...I just wouldn't get hung up on the valuation here. The idea of this lineup is to solidify C depth and top 6 F corps, while pushing the cap crunch back to when it will be more manageable- when one or more of the big contracts can be moved.

5 juill. 2022 à 15 h 9

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Quoting: Mike_Gartner

in what world does it make sense to keep Copp over Miller?

Quoting: Fox_Czar_Cup

To anyone who's locked into KAM with this D- I really have no problem with that...the guy is a really good young player, already in top 4, and a lot of growth still left in his game...but you do have to give to get. If this deal is not it- then that's fine....just putting out there an idea to generate some C depth (with young guys who project top 6) all the while avoiding the 2023 CAP crunch. And if in doing so they can get Copp to come down a little bit from the 5.5M he seems stuck on- I think he can outplay that contract.

5 juill. 2022 à 15 h 26

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Quoting: OldNYIfan

Echoing my friend Enrique, we offer you your choice of Pinelli, Turcotte or Vilardi plus our 2022 second for Miller.

It seems LA has soured considerably on Turcotte and Villardi. Not sure where either of these guys has fallen short- but while NYR wouldn't mind either- NYR wouldn't accept as centerpiece of a return on Miller. As far as Pinelli- I admitedly don't know much about him. I included him here to get a discussion started regarding the recycling of talent from a position of strength to a position of dire need. Seeing the responses, this idea hasn't been accepted too well- which is fine for discussion sake- but obviously if such an idea were to go to fruition considerably more that Pinelli and a 2022 2nd would have to come back for Miller.

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