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Créé par: royle9
Équipe: 2022-23 Flames de Calgary
Date de création initiale: 5 juill. 2022
Publié: 5 juill. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Flames re-tool/rebuild idea - Unload veteran depth guys @ deadline for more pieces if out of a playoff spot (Tanev, Hanifin, Backlund etc)

Forsberg unites with team Sweden.
Few years of Trochek, might be light on the salary here but room to offer more. Wouldn't go anymore than 3 years though, just enough to bridge the gap of a "re-tool/rebuild".

NJD - I've seen numerous trades for Tkachuk on here, always centered around something similar. I know some want Mercer but I think NJ would rather Holtz.
NYR - Rumblings Chytil looking to move, is this enough? Monahan back from surgery, but this one went better than any other, looking to bounce back and 50% retained for 1 year and fits in where Strome was lost.

Colorado - With both Makar and Byram would Colorado be willing to move Girard for a signed RFA (probably around the 5M mark so a wash in contract value) who just put up 38 goals and could slot in quite well in the top 6 for a fraction of the price of the other big name UFA's ?
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
31 650 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
78 650 000 $
21 500 000 $
31 650 000 $
1800 000 $
35 250 000 $
Transactions
1.
CGY
  1. Holtz, Alexander
  2. Smith, Ty
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (NJD)
NJD
  1. Tkachuk, Matthew [Droits de RFA]
2.
CGY
  1. Choix de 7e ronde en 2022 (SEA)
SEA
  1. Lucic, Milan
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (CGY)
3.
NYR
  1. Monahan, Sean (3 187 500 $ retained)
  2. Välimäki, Juuso
Détails additionnels:
50% retained.
4.
CGY
  1. Girard, Samuel
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (COL)
COL
  1. Mangiapane, Andrew [Droits de RFA]
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2022
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Logo de SEA
2023
Logo de CGY
Logo de COL
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2024
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Logo de CGY
Logo de CGY
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2182 500 000 $65 795 833 $0 $1 250 000 $16 704 167 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
8 650 000 $8 650 000 $
AG
UFA - 8
Logo de Flames de Calgary
4 850 000 $4 850 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Flames de Calgary
2 125 000 $2 125 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Rangers de New York
2 300 000 $2 300 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 7
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD, AG
RFA - 3
Logo de Flames de Calgary
863 333 $863 333 $
AG
RFA - 2
Logo de Flames de Calgary
5 350 000 $5 350 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Flames de Calgary
4 900 000 $4 900 000 $
AD, AG
NTC
UFA - 5
Logo de Flames de Calgary
2 300 000 $2 300 000 $
AG, AD, C
RFA - 2
Logo de Flames de Calgary
1 650 000 $1 650 000 $
AD, C, AG
UFA - 4
Logo de Flames de Calgary
800 000 $800 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Flames de Calgary
1 237 500 $1 237 500 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Flames de Calgary
4 550 000 $4 550 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
Logo de Flames de Calgary
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 5
Logo de Flames de Calgary
1 125 000 $1 125 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Flames de Calgary
750 000 $750 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
1 650 000 $1 650 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Flames de Calgary
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
DG/DD
RFA - 1

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5 juill. 2022 à 10 h 30
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There is no way Jersey does that trade for one year of MT. Heck they sign Gaudreau or any good UFA and be much better off.
Can't see Lucic wanting to go to a non playoff team in his final year.
5 juill. 2022 à 10 h 32
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There is no way Jersey does that trade for one year of MT. Heck they sign Gaudreau or any good UFA and be much better off.
Can't see Lucic wanting to go to a non playoff team in his final year.


U keep saying one year. They can agree to an extension before the trade. Devils would do this trade. I take ur the fan that’s always saying “next year”
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5 juill. 2022 à 10 h 34
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Its already been reported that if Johnny walks Calgary isn't going to make any rash decisions. So a signing like Forsberg or Trocheck simply wont happen. The draft will be over by then so you can forget about the New Jersey trade.
5 juill. 2022 à 10 h 37
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avs obviously decline. no need for the 1st.
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5 juill. 2022 à 10 h 37
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Avs aren't adding, especially a 1st, to Girard for Mangiapane.
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5 juill. 2022 à 10 h 38
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Very quick Rangers decline.
5 juill. 2022 à 10 h 38
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There is no way Jersey does that trade for one year of MT. Heck they sign Gaudreau or any good UFA and be much better off.
Can't see Lucic wanting to go to a non playoff team in his final year.


This whole 1 year of Tkachuk argument is so silly. Fiala just got traded and signed a 7 year deal with the exact same RFA status. This isn't like Miller or Pastrnak where then are a pending UFA.

In your mind why does Tkachuk want to hit free agency? To sign overseas? To get less money on a max 7 year deal? None lf it makes sense
5 juill. 2022 à 10 h 40
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Can’t imagine the Avs would be the ones adding to the Girard trade, let alone a 1st. Way off
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5 juill. 2022 à 10 h 46
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Devils decline. They aren't adding much of value on top of 2oa for MT, especially when they're Gaudreau's most likely destination
5 juill. 2022 à 11 h 1
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Devils decline. They aren't adding much of value on top of 2oa for MT, especially when they're Gaudreau's most likely destination

Rangers decline vigorously
5 juill. 2022 à 11 h 5
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Devils decline. They aren't adding much of value on top of 2oa for MT, especially when they're Gaudreau's most likely destination


I'm having a hard time valuing players. Because this is same trade people are proposing for DeBrincat and its too much. Now it's too much for Matthew Tkachuk,the exact player Devils fans are drooling about ( Heavier skill)?
5 juill. 2022 à 11 h 9
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I'm having a hard time valuing players. Because this is same trade people are proposing for DeBrincat and its too much. Now it's too much for Matthew Tkachuk,the exact player Devils fans are drooling about ( Heavier skill)?


I'm of the opinion that there is almost no trade worth it for 2oa. Swap out Holtz and Smith for say, Zacha and Muk and we might be talking, but if Gaudreau isn't a Flame come fall, five bucks says he's a Devil, and if the Devils are waiting for UFA to court Gaudreau, that would mean 2oa is off the table.

If Gaudreau extended with Calgary in the coming days, I would consider a trade for Tkachuk or Debrincat. I'm very heavily inclined to just make the pick, since any one of Wright, Slafkovsky, Cooley, and Jiricek panning out would be worth it.
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5 juill. 2022 à 11 h 19
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Quoting: pretzelcoatl
I'm of the opinion that there is almost no trade worth it for 2oa. Swap out Holtz and Smith for say, Zacha and Muk and we might be talking, but if Gaudreau isn't a Flame come fall, five bucks says he's a Devil, and if the Devils are waiting for UFA to court Gaudreau, that would mean 2oa is off the table.

If Gaudreau extended with Calgary in the coming days, I would consider a trade for Tkachuk or Debrincat. I'm very heavily inclined to just make the pick, since any one of Wright, Slafkovsky, Cooley, and Jiricek panning out would be worth it.


I'm hoping JG gives his answer soon rather than later. They say his no response is a tell tale sign he's probably out.
 
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