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Toews

Créé par: Josh
Équipe: 2022-23 Rangers de New York
Date de création initiale: 4 juill. 2022
Publié: 4 juill. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
22 385 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
11 200 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Toews, Jonathan
12 650 000 $
Transactions
1.
NYR
    J Toews @$2.65
    ARI
    1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (NYR)
    2.
    NYR
    1. Toews, Jonathan (5 250 000 $ retained)
    2. Choix de 6e ronde en 2022 (CBJ)
    CHI
    1. Georgiev, Alexandar [Droits de RFA]
    2. Nemeth, Patrik
    3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (NYR)
    Rachats de contrats
    Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
    2022
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    Logo de CBJ
    2023
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    2024
    Logo de NYR
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    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2282 500 000 $78 713 969 $0 $4 500 000 $3 786 031 $
    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
    Logo de Rangers de New York
    6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
    AG
    NMC
    UFA - 5
    Logo de Rangers de New York
    8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 8
    Logo de Rangers de New York
    2 385 000 $2 385 000 $
    AD
    RFA - 2
    Logo de Rangers de New York
    11 642 857 $11 642 857 $
    AG
    NMC
    UFA - 4
    Logo de Rangers de New York
    2 300 000 $2 300 000 $
    C, AG
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Rangers de New York
    875 000 $875 000 $
    AG, AD
    RFA - 1
    Logo de Rangers de New York
    925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 850 000 $$3M)
    AG, AD
    RFA - 1
    Toews, Jonathan
    2 650 000 $2 650 000 $
    Logo de Rangers de New York
    1 525 000 $1 525 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Rangers de New York
    762 500 $762 500 $
    C
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Rangers de New York
    3 641 667 $3 641 667 $
    C, AG
    M-NTC
    UFA - 5
    Logo de Rangers de New York
    762 500 $762 500 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Rangers de New York
    1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 1
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    Logo de Rangers de New York
    3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
    DG
    RFA - 2
    Logo de Rangers de New York
    9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 7
    Logo de Rangers de New York
    5 666 667 $5 666 667 $
    G
    UFA - 3
    Logo de Rangers de New York
    925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
    DG
    RFA - 1
    Logo de Rangers de New York
    8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
    DD
    NMC
    UFA - 4
    Logo de Rangers de New York
    925 000 $925 000 $
    DG
    RFA - 1
    Logo de Rangers de New York
    925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
    DD
    RFA - 2
    1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
    G
    UFA
    Logo de Rangers de New York
    925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
    DD
    RFA - 2
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
    Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
    5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 1

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    4 juill. 2022 à 12 h 20
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    exo2769
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    Go for both Kane and Toews? Kane was 4th in the league for primary assists. Should be perfect for the NYR goal scorers.
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    4 juill. 2022 à 12 h 25
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    LafreneiretoKravtsov
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    Quoting: exo2769
    Go for both Kane and Toews? Kane was 4th in the league for primary assists. Should be perfect for the NYR goal scorers.


    Rangers need a C more, and Toews is a better fit over Kane.
    They also need shooters over passers, so I can’t justify giving up a ton of assets for a luxury, especially with the cap.
    4 juill. 2022 à 12 h 28
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    Quoting: Josh
    Rangers need a C more, and Toews is a better fit over Kane.
    They also need shooters over passers, so I can’t justify giving up a ton of assets for a luxury, especially with the cap.


    I've been talking to other NYR fans and between Panarin and Kreider it's seems like you've got the shooters. It's the playmaker that fees those two that's a need. I honestly don't know...just saying what I've heard from other NYR fans
    4 juill. 2022 à 14 h 15
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    Quoting: exo2769
    Go for both Kane and Toews? Kane was 4th in the league for primary assists. Should be perfect for the NYR goal scorers.


    If the objective is to go for it in 22-23, I agree. In the words of Denholm Elliot who played the Butler in the 80s movie TRADING PLACES starring Eddie Murphy, Dan Ackroyd and Jamie Lee Curtis "Cracked Crab of Lobster, Can't We do Both." If you also want to retain either or both of them in the out years, the math doesn't work. I tried a KANE-TOEWS-CAT scenario for a boatload of NYRs in return, some who would have had to waive NMCs and NTCs. Assuming the Rangers given in return were acceptable (I did not post this one), the finances worked for the Hawks. an additional sweetener to keep the rebuild going was an additional $10.5M to spend in 23-24. On the Ranger side of this blockbuster, everything looked good TOEW and KANE back at $7.5-$8M for 3-4 years, but collapsed when the NYR couldn't afford cat for the long term. Even if you removed the CAT (I tried that too, the finances would not work in in any scenario for either one of both of them.
    4 juill. 2022 à 14 h 26
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    Quoting: Josh
    Rangers need a C more, and Toews is a better fit over Kane.
    They also need shooters over passers, so I can’t justify giving up a ton of assets for a luxury, especially with the cap.


    I agree with your remarks. Bringing in a strong faceoff man like Toews would be my priority too. More Puck Possession / Improved Power Play / A Less Taxed D. Patrick would be like bringing in another Breadman. Patrick wen 26-66-92 in 21-22. His presence would certainly boost the production stats of his line mates. Bottom Line: I am in the same place you are. Take a look at my response to exo2769.
    4 juill. 2022 à 14 h 30
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    Quoting: gdli
    If the objective is to go for it in 22-23, I agree. In the words of Denholm Elliot who played the Butler in the 80s movie TRADING PLACES starring Eddie Murphy, Dan Ackroyd and Jamie Lee Curtis "Cracked Crab of Lobster, Can't We do Both." If you also want to retain either or both of them in the out years, the math doesn't work. I tried a KANE-TOEWS-CAT scenario for a boatload of NYRs in return, some who would have had to waive NMCs and NTCs. Assuming the Rangers given in return were acceptable (I did not post this one), the finances worked for the Hawks. an additional sweetener to keep the rebuild going was an additional $10.5M to spend in 23-24. On the Ranger side of this blockbuster, everything looked good TOEW and KANE back at $7.5-$8M for 3-4 years, but collapsed when the NYR couldn't afford cat for the long term. Even if you removed the CAT (I tried that too, the finances would not work in in any scenario for either one of both of them.


    If I were the NYR I'd treat it like a 1 year rental scenario. Kaner's still elite and Toews is still a good center. Kubalik was Toews most common linemate which he's a nice player but very far from actually playing with a guy like Kane or Panarin. Heck Toews is amazing at the dot...maybe put him between the two.

    Anyway as far a finances go, another team will need to step in for cap purposes, BUT both Toews/Kane got their signing bonus on July 1st. So they're each only owed $2.9M in cash. What that means is a team like BUF/ANA/NJD/etc... would need to pay in cash a whopping $1.45M to retain on BOTH Toews/Kane combined. That's not a ton of cash and you could get two different teams so it's only $745k.

    As far as trade return. I know Kaapo was a high draft pick, but in this hypothetical scenario...he can't play a top 6 role because he and Kaner play the same position. He's not going to get the proper development he needs to succeed. I think he should be the biggest piece of the trade. The Hawks will log a bazillion minutes for him.
    4 juill. 2022 à 14 h 33
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    Absolutely on all counts!!
     
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