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Miller and Poolman back to Ohio

Créé par: kingkanuck
Date de création initiale: 3 juill. 2022
Publié: 3 juill. 2022
Équipe: 2022-23 Canucks de Vancouver
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Roy, Nicolas33 000 000 $
Lammikko, Juho31 250 000 $
Stenlund, Kevin2950 000 $
Studnicka, Jack2850 000 $
Pezzetta, Michael2850 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Lazar, Curtis3900 000 $
Priskie, Chase3900 000 $
Connauton, Kevin1900 000 $
Rempal, Sheldon3950 000 $
Stephens, Devante3850 000 $
Offres hostiles
Le salaire annuel moyen (AAV) de l'offre hostile est calculé en divisant la valeur totale du contrat par: 1. La durée totale du contrat, ou 2. Cinq ans
JOUEURAAVCOMPENSATION
Roy, Nicolas3 000 000 $
Choix de 2e ronde en 2023
Transactions
1.
VAN
  1. Christiansen, Jacob
  2. Stenlund, Kevin [Droits de RFA]
  3. 2022 1e round pick (CBJ)
CBJ
  1. Miller, J.T. (1 250 000 $ retained)
  2. Poolman, Tucker (750 000 $ retained)
2.
VAN
  1. 2022 1e round pick (NJD)
NJD
  1. 2022 1e round pick (VAN)
  2. 2022 1e round pick (CBJ)
3.
VAN
  1. Carlo, Brandon
  2. Studnicka, Jack [Droits de RFA]
  3. Zboril, Jakub
BOS
  1. Garland, Conor
  2. Rathbone, Jack
  3. McDonough, Aidan [Liste de réserve]
  4. Schenn, Luke
4.
VAN
  1. Holm, Arvid
WPG
  1. Keeper, Brady
  2. 2022 7e round pick (VAN)
5.
VAN
  1. Dvorak, Christian
  2. Pezzetta, Michael [Droits de RFA]
  3. Vrbetic, Joe [Liste de réserve]
MTL
  1. Höglander, Nils
  2. DiPietro, Michael [Droits de RFA]
  3. Highmore, Matthew [Droits de RFA]
  4. 2022 3e round pick (VAN)
  5. 2023 5e round pick (VAN)
  6. 2024 5e round pick (VAN)
6.
VAN
  1. Mantha, Anthony (425 000 $ retained)
  2. Rybinski, Henry
WSH
  1. Pearson, Tanner
  2. 2022 5e round pick (VAN)
Rachats de contrats
  • Braden Holtby: 1 900 000 $
  • Jake Virtanen: 500 000 $
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
  • J.T. Miller: 1 250 000 $ (23.81%)
  • Tucker Poolman: 750 000 $ (30%)
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2022
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Logo de VAN
2023
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de NYR
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
2024
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2382 500 000 $81 510 000 $1 250 000 $1 700 000 $990 000 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de VAN
Pettersson, Elias
7 350 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 2
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Horvat, Bo
5 500 000 $
C
UFA - 1
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Boeser, Brock
6 650 000 $
AD
UFA - 3
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Kuzmenko, Andrei
950 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de MTL
Dvorak, Christian
4 450 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 3
Logo de VAN
Podkolzin, Vasily
925 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
Logo de VAN
Dickinson, Jason
2 650 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
Roy, Nicolas
3 000 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 5
Logo de WSH
Mantha, Anthony
5 275 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Pezzetta, Michael
850 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
Logo de VAN
Lammikko, Juho
1 250 000 $
C, AG
UFA
Studnicka, Jack
850 000 $
AD, C
RFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de VAN
Hughes, Quinn
7 850 000 $
DG
UFA - 5
Logo de BOS
Carlo, Brandon
4 100 000 $
DD
UFA - 5
Logo de VAN
Demko, Thatcher
5 000 000 $
G
UFA - 4
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Ekman-Larsson, Oliver
7 260 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de VAN
Dermott, Travis
1 500 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
Logo de VAN
Martin, Spencer
762 500 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de BOS
Zboril, Jakub
1 137 500 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Logo de VAN
Myers, Tyler
6 000 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Lazar, Curtis
900 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 3
Logo de VAN
Ferland, Micheal
3 500 000 $
AG, AD
NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de VAN
Dowling, Justin
750 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Connauton, Kevin
900 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2

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3 juill. à 19 h 43
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Welcome Simon Nemec
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a second first isn’t what we need it’s a skillful player that can impact now
3 juill. à 19 h 43
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Hoglander is a good piece for Dvorak but the rest are just thrown in not interesting
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3 juill. à 19 h 47
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Habs better off keeping Dvorak
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3 juill. à 19 h 48
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Poolman grew up in Iowa/Minnesota and Miller grew up in Pittsburgh. But I would accept that trade in a heartbeat. 2 AHL players and 12th overall? Yes please
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3 juill. à 19 h 55
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Canucks decline that Columbus trade easily. Very measly return for Miller.
3 juill. à 19 h 58
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12 + 15 for 2 is hilarious
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3 juill. à 20 h 10
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That WSH trade is bad. Mantha >>> Pearson.
3 juill. à 20 h 16
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insane value for mtl on that trade... taking that in an instant if im kent hughes.
3 juill. à 20 h 25
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Quoting: Joey_mar_cur
insane value for mtl on that trade... taking that in an instant if im kent hughes.


Are you trolling ?! That's horrible for the habs
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3 juill. à 20 h 36
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Quoting: Juiceman
Canucks decline that Columbus trade easily. Very measly return for Miller.


Vancouver did not honor Miller's NTC when he was acquired. I have a feeling other GM's are going to bring that up since a dick move like that surely pissed him off. His play may be "affected" if he is traded to a team that would have been on his list. They may demand to negotiate an extension. especially since Miller gets irate when asked about trade rumors Karma
3 juill. à 20 h 37
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Quoting: Poehling
Hoglander is a good piece for Dvorak but the rest are just thrown in not interesting


Quoting: BorisBagel
Habs better off keeping Dvorak


Quoting: Joey_mar_cur
insane value for mtl on that trade... taking that in an instant if im kent hughes.


Quoting: SMH
Are you trolling ?! That's horrible for the habs


I haven’t really followed Hoglander last year but I remember really liking him as a prospect. Out of curiosity, what would a Dvorak-Hoglander centered trade look like? What would need to be added?
3 juill. à 20 h 38
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I haven’t really followed Hoglander last year but I remember really liking him as a prospect. Out of curiosity, what would a Dvorak-Hoglander centered trade look like? What would need to be added?


A 1st round pick (late 1st but still a 1st)
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3 juill. à 20 h 39
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Heh. 1, 2, 3 and 6 are total pies in the sky.
3 juill. à 20 h 40
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Quoting: BURGHgirl
Vancouver did not honor Miller's NTC when he was acquired. I have a feeling other GM's are going to bring that up since a dick move like that surely pissed him off. His play may be "affected" if he is traded to a team that would have been on his list. They may demand to negotiate an extension. especially since Miller gets irate when asked about trade rumors Karma


What are you even talking about? Miller has no trade protection. I don’t understand how a team could ignore a players NTC because the player can just say no. He can be traded anywhere because he doesn’t have one. I’m very confused on what your point is
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3 juill. à 20 h 40
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Quoting: SMH
Are you trolling ?! That's horrible for the habs


pezz and vrbetic have like no value between the two of them lol this trade esseentially boils down to dvo for dipietro, hog, highmore AND picks...
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3 juill. à 20 h 50
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Quoting: Joey_mar_cur
pezz and vrbetic have like no value between the two of them lol this trade esseentially boils down to dvo for dipietro, hog, highmore AND picks...


LOL,

Nils Hoglander this season 18 points in 60 games
Michael pezzetta 11 points in 51 games

Yes they aren't comparable but to say MP has no value is the dumbest thing I've heard today, he's big strong hard working 4th liner who can score and skate

If verbic has no value DiPietro isn't worth more than a 6th as well

And a bunch of extra mid to late picks means absolutely nothing to a team picking 14 friggin times this upcoming draft, and dvorak is worth at least what the habs paid for him and possibly even more
3 juill. à 21 h 7
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What are you even talking about? Miller has no trade protection. I don’t understand how a team could ignore a players NTC because the player can just say no. He can be traded anywhere because he doesn’t have one. I’m very confused on what your point is


Miller had a NTC on the contract he signed with TB that Benning did not honor and had voided.
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Quoting: BURGHgirl
Miller had a NTC on the contract he signed with TB that Benning did not honor and had voided.


You can’t just void a no trade clause unless the player agrees. Give me a reliable source as evidence of your claim. Even if what you’re saying is true, I don’t think it matters.
3 juill. à 21 h 52
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Quoting: Juiceman
You can’t just void a no trade clause unless the player agrees. Give me a reliable source as evidence of your claim. Even if what you’re saying is true, I don’t think it matters.


It's in his contract notes. It was for last 4 years of his contract and kicked in 7/1/19. He was traded on 6/23. Benning decided to not honor it and was allowed to void it under the argument it was signed by another team. Contracts now state you can't do this thanks to Benning being a dick to a star players. It may not make a difference, but Rutherford used that as a specific example of how not to treat players. You may not get as much as you feel entitled to because your new FO is very empathetic to players and their wishes
3 juill. à 22 h 2
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Adding Poolman to a Miller trade diminishes his value drastically.

Trading Miller to Columbus is fine, but him alone can get more out of them.

Poolman doesn't have a NTC; move him to Arizona for a late pick.
4 juill. à 14 h 17
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Quoting: Benzino204
Adding Poolman to a Miller trade diminishes his value drastically.

Trading Miller to Columbus is fine, but him alone can get more out of them.

Correction: Miller alone can get more out of some other team. The Jackets aren't targeting someone like Miller with either of the 1sts; the trade as written is of interest mostly because it's an underpayment.
 
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