Oh I've been watching, and he hasn't been a top pair caliber defender at least as far back as the 19-20 season. Now what could you be apologizing for?

just being polite when i tell you i think you are delusional if you believe that

Helping Tampa? They just traded a 2.5m ahl Dman for a stud.

Tampa's cap issues seem to be catching up to them. Now taking on a 2.5m ahl Dman they hope to rehab. Preds win this trade in a landslide.

So curious how they got him to waive his NTC...
Like seriously its weird how its so easy for some teams to move guys with NTC's but some are impossible.

Playoff team with no taxes. Ntc is not an nmc... could have gave him the bus option.

6.5-7.5 per or so for 5 years he can make

This TB ownership group doesn't pull that chump a$$ BS which is one reason guys willingly give back by waiving

Stud? Hes in decline and has a terrible contract that projects to likely fall off badly lmao.

There is no stud in this trade. NSH got fleeced

I feel nobody really won in the end

As not Nashville has a nice top 4 Dman who can take on tough defensive responsibilities while Tampa got cap space and Myers who is gonna rebound its destiny at this point

Kind of annoyed this happened as now were gonna get spammed with

So Tampa moved McDonagh lets have Toronto move Muzzin without realizing these 2 situations aint the same

Toronto has no need to move Muzzin and actually needs Muzzin as if he goes we got nobody to clear bodies in front of the net or lay out monster hits

While Tampa needed to clear cap space for Palat and prepare for 3 big extensions so it made sense to move him

Excuse me, but if you had any sense of decency as a human being, you wouldn't be throwing that word around to begin with on this forum

Because they're taking on 4 years. If he had two years it would be a win

McDonough in 2022 isn't the nyr McDonough. That contract is an anchor and likely to get worse. Players value includes the contract and his should have been negative. He isn't worth 6.75 today and it's likely just going to look worse and worse as the years go on

Just going to make the observation that I don't think I've ever seen a more evenly divided vote on a trade than this one before.

you're absolutely crazy

If he had two years he would have had quite a bit more value than a likely buyout and low-end prospect.

Edit

Hard to see McDonagh go, but it's the right time to free up cap space and not having to add something to take on his contract, that will likely look ugly very soon.

Ryan McDonagh has been excellent defensively for Tampa Bay, but at age 33 the remaining four years of his deal are looking incredibly dicey. The Lightning get out of this deal just in time. pic.twitter.com/hHftC66WvI

— dom (@domluszczyszyn) July 3, 2022

Obviously the problem for Tampa now is filling the blanks, and Sergy will need to step it up for the Dcore to be strong.
I'm not gonna lie, I like Myers potential. When he was in Philly he looked very promising but died out in Nashville. As JBB said he has the right toolbox, maybe a change of scenery is what he needs? We'll see.

But at this point, anybody doubting JBB moves hasn't been paying attention. He knows what he's doing.

I wish teams would stop helping out the TBL or VGK's of the world... freak sakes.

As long as it keeps benefitting them, they'll do it.
I expect every GM would rather help out their team at a significant discount than not improve their team for the sake of hurting another team

Once more for the people at the back.

Exactly what @KSIxSkulls said

Teams aren't gonna avoid a trade just because it helps another team
Nashville saw a quality defensemen on the trade block for cheap and took advantage. They don't care about how it affects Tampa. Nashville cares about helping themselves

So apparently if McDonagh didnt agree to this trade he was gonna get waived and be claimed by the CBJ

Interesting

CBJ GM is denying it but idk I think its probs true

As lets be real what GM goes yeah me and this team had a deal where I would claim this guy on waivers

Tampa got the good years of McDonagh's and then traded him away for assets. Hard not to say that Tampa wins here.