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(TBL/NSH) - McDonagh for Myers, Mismash

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3 juill. à 15 h 3
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Tampa gives up a good player, who is admittedly overpriced at this point in his career, for a $2.5 million healthy scratch and a career AHLer. Huh. Tampa got weaker. Nashville wins.
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How does this make sense for Nashville?

Who is moving to the right side?


6.75 million dollar question right there
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Nashville D-core is going to be scary.


More like lopsided
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Quoting: Random2152
FFS

STOP. HELPING. TAMPA.


what you aren't getting is GM's don't care if they're helping someone else if they feel they're getting what helps their team especially if it's from the other conference.
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Quoting: Knuckl3s
More like lopsided


TB won 2 stanley cups with a very left lopsided d-core
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3 juill. à 15 h 20
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Quoting: Hurricanes_WPG
Why is Tampa being bailed out of their cap struggles?

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They’re not being bailed out. They got weaker in defense and Nashville got stronger. This makes Tampa worse and Nashville better.
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Quoting: Boltsradynasty
TB won 2 stanley cups with a very left lopsided d-core


They had two LD making 6 + million, Nashville is about to have 3
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Quoting: Boltsradynasty
what you aren't getting is GM's don't care if they're helping someone else if they feel they're getting what helps their team especially if it's from the other conference.


Oh I get it.

He simply thought wrong
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Quoting: Knuckl3s
They had two LD making 6 + million, Nashville is about to have 3


the other was making 4.8
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Quoting: Boltsradynasty
the other was making 4.8


That's still under 6 million
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Quoting: Knuckl3s
That's still under 6 million


not drastically
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Quoting: Boltsradynasty
not drastically


Eh, 4.8M still isn't top pairing money. Even McDonagh hasn't really played at a top pair caliber level during the life of his current contract
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I say Nashville wins only because I’m a big fan of McDonagh.
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3 juill. à 15 h 54
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McDonagh is very underrated. He was a massive part of their top four and their 3 finals appearances in three years. Hedman is the do-it-all defenseman and main offensive contributor. Sergachev is their secondary offensive presence. Erik Cernak is their physical defenseman. And McDonagh was the defensive master, blocking shots like nobody else, making subtle defensive plays and playing the hard minutes on the left side to ease the load on Hedman and Sergachev. He didn't need to be what he was in New York (the main guy) and that allowed him and Tampa to win Stanley Cups.
Sure the contract is big, and with cap regulations, Tampa couldn't allow to keep him to stay competitive. But he will be missed in Tampa, and this might be the end of an era.
As for Nashville, I like this. However, I doubt that this trade will push them over the hump, especially because the central division is so competitive (looking at you Colorado and St Louis) and this team needs more forwards than defensemen, especially with the possible departure of Filip Forsberg.
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Quoting: Knuckl3s
Eh, 4.8M still isn't top pairing money. Even McDonagh hasn't really played at a top pair caliber level during the life of his current contract


I apologize but if you think McDonagh hasn't played top pair quality minutes you're either not watching ,not good at evaluating , flat out wrong, or purposefully lying.
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Quoting: Boltsradynasty
If thats your opinion so be it but David Poile knows more about Hockey than You'll ever dream of knowing


Not sure what to tell you if you haven't figured out he's lost the plot in recent years
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Quoting: Rangsey
Yeah. But this way they can secure Palat for (possibly) cheaper deal before he has the opportunity to talk to other teams.


You are right, if Palat wanna play the UFA market game. I would find that surprising though. Would would wanna leave TB right now?
3 juill. à 16 h 20
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It seems a lot of people don't understand the difference between a cap dump and shedding salary.
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Wow! Doughnut to Smashville? Myers to play 3rd pairing or 2nd pairing D role? Or even being traded to other team? That would do + $9,300,000 cap space. And Mismash, will he ever be playing for the Bolts? And how about the other side of this trade? Josi, Ekholm, McDonagh - is it not way too much for the laft side? Are they going to part with one of the three blueliners??
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Quoting: CSStrowbridge
Tampa gives up a good player, who is admittedly overpriced at this point in his career, for a $2.5 million healthy scratch and a career AHLer. Huh. Tampa got weaker. Nashville wins.


They got out of a bad salary with committment for no cost. They win
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3 juill. à 17 h 35
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Looks like Sergachev's time to step up full-time into the top 4 is now; but someone has to play on the 3rd play left side or TB brings up Sean Day from the AHL.

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3 juill. à 17 h 47
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Quoting: justaBoss
Love this trade. Both teams win. TB gets some serious cap help and NSH get a solid D-man.


They could also have gotten a solid D-man with those 5 million in cap space. This way they instead tie up a 33-y/o middle pair defenseman for almost 7 per year. He's not getting better, Nashville isn't competing now, and if they were - they'd do like Tampa and understand that 6.75 is an overpayment for McDonagh and move on.

This is exactly why teams like Tampa gets away with bending the cap to their will - other teams argue themselves into doing it for them.
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Quoting: MelonVK
They could also have gotten a solid D-man with those 5 million in cap space. This way they instead tie up a 33-y/o middle pair defenseman for almost 7 per year. He's not getting better, Nashville isn't competing now, and if they were - they'd do like Tampa and understand that 6.75 is an overpayment for McDonagh and move on.

This is exactly why teams like Tampa gets away with bending the cap to their will - other teams argue themselves into doing it for them.






Brisebois saying this kinda has a point. McDonagh's performance at least right now is enough to warrant at least close to the amount he's earning now, but circumstance forced them to move on from McDonagh.

NSH saves themselves from offering such contract to a pylon like Chiarot and get themselves some actual quality with pretty much no cost. I can't see how this is a L for them either.
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3 juill. à 17 h 57
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I don't see the need for Nashville of a top 4 left D costing 6,75m$, unless there is another trade
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Quoting: Brian2016
Tampa's D is looking a bit weak. Not sure they're still Cup contenders unless someone (Cal Foote) steps up next season.


Sergachev is more than capable of taking that Top 4 role. Losing Rutta is where it gets dicey for them. They have some RHD prospects who are intriguing though such as Thompson and Schmidt.
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