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Realistic Offseason July 2nd Rumours

Créé par: Jukesy
Équipe: 2022-23 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Date de création initiale: 2 juill. 2022
Publié: 2 juill. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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Letang: Rumours are they are closer on AAV in the last few days, it's expected he wants a 5yr deal and PIT wants 3yr, so I figured 4 years makes sense. Last I heard he was asking around 8 and PIT was wanting around 7. I figured they'd meet somewhere around 7.7

Geno: With the Money saved on Letang I think it would incline PIT to spend a little more to get geno back, instead of the 6.5ish mil that they are offering I could see them ponying up an extra 500k to get the deal done.

Rakell: Originally I figured a 4.5-5.0 mil deal for Rak made sense, but after really looking at this stats I think 4.0-4.5 is more warranted. I think Rak wants to be here if Pens are willing to have him. I think 4.2 gets it done.

Desmith: Latest rumours say that the Pens and desmith are close on a deal, I think the same AAV at 2 years makes sense for both sides. I dont think Desmith showed enough to warrant a pay raise (despite the strong finish to the season) but I also dont think he's worth a paycut. He's perfect for that price tag, and I think PIT sees it that way too.

Zucker: I think Pit keeps him unless they DESPERATELY need the salary. We'll see. I think they only dish him if its neccesary, I think Hextall loves him despite his price tag.

Kapanen: I think this one is more of a hot take. But heres what people dont understand about the Kap situation. It's not just as easy as giving him a 1yr 1.5million dollar prove it deal. And PIT cant just qualify him. Because most of his money on his last contract was paid in bonuses, his QO would only net him a 1x850k deal. He'd reject that in an instant and opt for player-opted arbitration. Now at arbitration he is set to make at LEAST 85% of his previous AAV, which leaves him making a minimum of 2.7mil per. As well, Pittsburgh only gets walk away rights if the arbitrator awards Kap anything OVER 4.5mil. Which wont happen. Basically what it means is. If you try to qualify Kap. He will immediately decline and you'll be stuck with him for somewhere between 1x2.7 and 1x4.5. My thought process is, if they dont trade him, they offer him a 2x2.2, they say to him hey, we'll give you 500k less than your 2.7 minimum, but we'll grant you an extra year of job security. I think thats a fair deal for both sides.

Now for the trades.

Pettersson: I personally would move Dumo, but all rumours point to Pettersson being the one Hextall wants to move. I keep seeing him mocked for a 3rd to Detroit so thats basically what I did. Doesn't have to be them, just get max value you can in picks for Pettersson.

McGinn/Debrusk: This is the HOT take trade. I think despite the extension, all rumours still point to Boston still wanting to dish him. He had such a hot end to the year I think his value is high rn so boston will wanna capitalize. I see his value being somewhere around a 2nd and 3rd ish, but I dont think boston will wanna do that. I think they want a first. So in this trade they get the first they want, and a decent 3rd line player, but they will have to move a few mid round picks back to square up the value. Thoughts on this? Maybe im off. Boston fans what do you think?
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PIT
  1. DeBrusk, Jake
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (CGY)
  3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (BOS)
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  1. McGinn, Brock
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (PIT)
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Note: It's a 2023 First not this years 2022 first (#21 Overall)
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PIT
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (DET)
  2. Choix de 7e ronde en 2022 (DET)
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2 juill. 2022 à 23 h 30
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I think a lot of the problems with Debrusk were with Cassidy, but now that he’s gone idk if there are still problems. I could see debrusk being a target but I wouldn’t move a first for him. I would maybe offer a 2nd, a 3rd and McGinn. I would also want to give him a look on Crosby’s line and try a guentzel-Malkin-rust line - just to try it and shake things up, could always go back if it doesn’t work.

Overall this is very well thought out and I agree with basically everything else. If the Debrusk thing doesn’t work out, I could see Marchment or Vatrano being options in UFA
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How much more value wise do you think they'd want. I saw multiple people do a 2nd and 3rd for him. I've seen a few people overpay and do like a first and a high end prospect. What more would you add from a Pens perspective.
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How much more value wise do you think they'd want. I saw multiple people do a 2nd and 3rd for him. I've seen a few people overpay and do like a first and a high end prospect. What more would you add from a Pens perspective.


More so about McGinn and the picks comjng back. Take their picks coming back to us out and McGinn and maybe throw in Hallander. 1st + Hallander + late pick could probably get a deal done. But I don’t think DeBrusk is going anywhere it seems like over time his trade request has slowly diminished away
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I think a lot of the problems with Debrusk were with Cassidy, but now that he’s gone idk if there are still problems. I could see debrusk being a target but I wouldn’t move a first for him. I would maybe offer a 2nd, a 3rd and McGinn. I would also want to give him a look on Crosby’s line and try a guentzel-Malkin-rust line - just to try it and shake things up, could always go back if it doesn’t work.

Overall this is very well thought out and I agree with basically everything else. If the Debrusk thing doesn’t work out, I could see Marchment or Vatrano being options in UFA


I just looked at the LW UFA market and thought BLAH. Everyone was either going to be overpaid middle 6 wingers who you are hoping can play at a top 6 level, or legit top 6 guys commanding 5mil or higher. Which PIT really cant afford. So i started looking at either middle 6 forwards at a good price, or top 6 LWs that are on the block and Debrusk seemed like a good fit. I think your right, cassidy being gone really changes the landscape for Debrusk, but as far as the latest rumours are concerned he's still OTB.

There is a few people that you could target for 2nd line LW.

Pony up in FA for Burakovsky, Palat, Nichuskin, Neidereiter, etc

Risk it in FA on a middle 6 guy like Mikheyev, Domi, Marchment, etc

Resign a guy like EROD or Heinen for the top 6

Go after high value guys in a trade like JT Miller, or Necas

or go after mid value wingers in trade like Debrusk, or Kubalik. I prefer the last option.
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I just looked at the LW UFA market and thought BLAH. Everyone was either going to be overpaid middle 6 wingers who you are hoping can play at a top 6 level, or legit top 6 guys commanding 5mil or higher. Which PIT really cant afford. So i started looking at either middle 6 forwards at a good price, or top 6 LWs that are on the block and Debrusk seemed like a good fit. I think your right, cassidy being gone really changes the landscape for Debrusk, but as far as the latest rumours are concerned he's still OTB.

There is a few people that you could target for 2nd line LW.

Pony up in FA for Burakovsky, Palat, Nichuskin, Neidereiter, etc

Risk it in FA on a middle 6 guy like Mikheyev, Domi, Marchment, etc

Resign a guy like EROD or Heinen for the top 6

Go after high value guys in a trade like JT Miller, or Necas

or go after mid value wingers in trade like Debrusk, or Kubalik. I prefer the last option.


How about Dylan Strome? He could play the wing, or play Center whenever carter/Malkin get too old
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More so about McGinn and the picks comjng back. Take their picks coming back to us out and McGinn and maybe throw in Hallander. 1st + Hallander + late pick could probably get a deal done. But I don’t think DeBrusk is going anywhere it seems like over time his trade request has slowly diminished away


So I see McGinn and a 1st straight up for Debrusk as an overpayment, and I also think although Boston is entering a retool, I dont think they wanna be giving up Roster players for prospects just yet. I think at least McGinn gives them a roster player that is useful to them and could fill in on their left side. Plus they get the first they liekly want for debrusk. A first if your Pittsburgh you are hoping is a very late one.

I think you could take out one of the picks boston is sending and it would be decent value still for pit but if you take out both picks I dont think its a fair deal. Debrusk is solid but he's not a roster player plus a 1st solid.
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How about Dylan Strome? He could play the wing, or play Center whenever carter/Malkin get too old


I think he's a great option tbh. I would love them to snag him and try him with G and like you said once Geno retires you could transition him to Center again. He'd be right there with Kubalik, and Debrusk as options I'd wanna target. Middle 6 guys who are still young and have flexibility in their spots. Thats an ideal target.
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I think he's a great option tbh. I would love them to snag him and try him with G and like you said once Geno retires you could transition him to Center again. He'd be right there with Kubalik, and Debrusk as options I'd wanna target. Middle 6 guys who are still young and have flexibility in their spots. Thats an ideal target.


I think that’s where you plug in Kapanen, or zucker. Strome and G both Hugh skill guys but neither of them have great foot speed
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So I see McGinn and a 1st straight up for Debrusk as an overpayment, and I also think although Boston is entering a retool, I dont think they wanna be giving up Roster players for prospects just yet. I think at least McGinn gives them a roster player that is useful to them and could fill in on their left side. Plus they get the first they liekly want for debrusk. A first if your Pittsburgh you are hoping is a very late one.

I think you could take out one of the picks boston is sending and it would be decent value still for pit but if you take out both picks I dont think its a fair deal. Debrusk is solid but he's not a roster player plus a 1st solid.


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I think he's a great option tbh. I would love them to snag him and try him with G and like you said once Geno retires you could transition him to Center again. He'd be right there with Kubalik, and Debrusk as options I'd wanna target. Middle 6 guys who are still young and have flexibility in their spots. Thats an ideal target.


I think the key with G is finding the guy who excels at zone entry. Geno has always been a turnover machine, but he doesn't have the lateral stability in his knee to manage edge work as well. If he moved to the wing to get the long pass I think he would be set up better than trying to enter the slot.
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I'm always posting pens stuff lol. You can probably go check my other roster builds lol, although my opinion has changed lots of late
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I'm always posting pens stuff lol. You can probably go check my other roster builds lol, although my opinion has changed lots of late


I definitely will. I'll try my hand at eventually
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Detroit offers a 3rd for Pettersson.
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