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12 mai 2023 à 10 h 58
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McKeen's has new prospect rankings out.


McKeens top-10 overall
1. Logan Cooley (C-ARI)
2. Luke Hughes (LHD-NJD)
3. Shane Wright (C-SEA)
4. David Jiricek (RHD-CBJ)
5. Simon Edvinsson (LHD-DET)
6. Dylan Guenther (RW-ARI)
7. Simon Nemec (RHD-NJD)
8. Brandt Clarke (RHD-LAK)
9. Pavel Mintyukov (LHD-ANA)
10. Alexander Holtz (RW-NJD)


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McKeen's Other Notable Names in top-200
24. Marco Kasper (C-DET)
25. Matthew Savoie (C-BUF)
26. Mavrik Bourque (C-DAL)
27. Alexander Nikishin (LHD-CAR)
29. Frank Nazar (C-CHI)

33. Matthew Coronato (RW-CGY)
35. Fabian Lysell (RW-BOS)
36. Joakim Kemell (RW-NSH)
37. Thomas Bordeleau (C-SJS)
38. Lane Hutson (LHD-MTL)

41. Brad Lambert (C-WPG)
43. Denton Mateychuk (LHD-CBJ)
46. Arseni Gritsyuk (RW-NJD)
49. Conor Geekie (C-ARI)
53. Lian Bichsel (LHD-DAL)

55. Matthew Knies (LW-TOR)
58. Isak Rosen (RW-BUF)
72. Thomas Harley (LHD-DAL)
75. Rutger McGroarty (LW-WPG)
76. Nikolai Kovalenko (RW-COL)

77. Ivan Miroshnichenko (LW-WAS)
82. Sean Farrell (C-MTL)
96. Alex Turcotte (C-LAK)
99. Carter Mazur (LW-DET)
114. Victor Soderstrom (RHD-ARI)

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Notable guys left off McKeen's top-200
Michael Benning (RHD-FLA)
Ryan Ufko (RHD-NSH)
Michael Buchinger (LHD-STL)
Sasha Pastujov (RW-ANA)
Domenick Fensore (LHD-CAR)
Nicholas Moldenhauer (RW-TOR)
Pyotr Kochetkov (G-CAR)
Miko Matikka (RW-ARI)
Georgii Merkulov (C-BOS)
Tyler Boucher (RW-OTT)

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McKeen's top-5 by position: C
1. Logan Cooley (C-ARI)
3. Shane Wright (C-SEA)
16. Marco Rossi (C-MIN)
18. Jiri Kulich (C-BUF)
22. Logan Stankoven (C-DAL)

McKeen's top-5 by position: LW
12. Cutter Gauthier (LW-PHI)
14. Lukas Reichel (LW-CHI)
15. William Eklund (LW-SJS)
30. Brennan Othmann (LW-NYR)
39. Jakob Pelletier (LW-CGY)

McKeen's top-5 by position: RW
6. Dylan Guenther (RW-ARI)
10. Alexander Holtz (RW-NJD)
19. Jimmy Snuggerud (RW-STL)
31. Luke Evangelista (RW-NSH)
32. Jonathan Lekkerimaki (RW-VAN)

McKeen's top-5 by position: LHD
2. Luke Hughes (LHD-NJD)
5. Simon Edvinsson (LHD-DET)
9. Pavel Mintyukov (LHD-ANA)
21. Olen Zellweger (LHD-ANA)
23. Kevin Korchinski (LHD-CHI)

McKeen's top-5 by position: RHD
4. David Jiricek (RHD-CBJ)
7. Simon Nemec (RHD-NJD)
8. Brandt Clarke (RHD-LAK)
45. Jordan Spence (RHD-LAK)
57. Scott Morrow (RHD-CAR)

McKeen's top-5 by position: G
11. Jesper Wallstedt (G-MIN)
13. Yaroslav Askarov (G-NSH)
17. Dustin Wolf (G-CGY)
20. Lukas Dostal (G-ANA)
28. Devon Levi (G-BUF)

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McKeen's top-200 prospects that have been traded
28. Devon Levi (G-BUF)
61. Aatu Raty (C-VAN)
65. Brock Faber (RHD-MIN)
71. Zachary Dean (C-STL)
78. Shakir Mukhamadullin (LHD-SJS)
98. Reid Schaefer (LW-NSH)
102. Justin Barron (RHD-MTL)
107. Henry Thrun (LHD-SJS)
143. Patrik Puistola (LW-EDM)
165. Kevin Bahl (LHD-NJD)
190. Nolan Foote (LW-NJD)
193. Alec Regula (RHD-CHI)
194. Drew Helleson (RHD-ANA)

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McKeen's top-200 prospects that were signed as free agents
163. Yegor Zamula (D-PHI)
166. Brandon Bussi (G-BOS)

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Here are some other top-10's for comparison...

The Hockey News
1. Logan Cooley (C-ARI)
2. Simon Edvinsson (LHD-DET)
3. Luke Hughes (LHD-NJD)
4. Shane Wright (C-SEA)
5. David Jiricek (RHD-CBJ)
6. Simon Nemec (RHD-NJD)
7. Yaroslav Askarov (G-NSH)
8. Jesper Wallstedt (G-MIN)
9. Brandt Clarke (RHD-LAK)
10. Cutter Gauthier (LW-PHI)

Scott Wheeler
1. Logan Cooley (C-ARI)
2. Luke Hughes (LHD-NJD)
3. David Jiricek (RHD-CBJ)
4. Simon Nemec (RHD-NJD)
5. Simon Edvinsson (LHD-DET)
6. Brandt Clarke (RHD-LAK)
7. Shane Wright (C-SEA)
9. Logan Stankoven (C-Dal)
10. Matthew Savoie (C-Buf)

Chris Peters
1. Simon Edvinsson (LHD-DET)
2. Luke Hughes (LHD-NJD)
3. Shane Wright (C-SEA)
4. Logan Cooley (C-ARI)
5. Marco Rossi (C-Min)
6. Alexander Holtz (RW-NJD)
7. Simon Nemec (RHD-NJD)
8. David Jiricek (RHD-CBJ)
9. Matthew Savoie (C-Buf)
10. Brandt Clarke (RHD-LAK)

Corey Pronman (ex-NHL)
1. Luke Hughes (LHD-NJD)
2. Logan Cooley (C-ARI)
3. David Jiricek (RHD-CBJ)
4. Alexander Nikishin (LHD-Car)
5. Shane Wright (C-SEA)
6. Kevin Korchinski (LHD-Chi)
7. Simon Edvinsson (LHD-DET)
8. Pavel Mintyukov (LHD-ANA)
9. Dylan Guenther (RW-ARI)
10. Simon Nemec (RHD-NJD)

EP Rinkside
1. Simon Edvinsson (LHD-DET)
2. Shane Wright (C-SEA)
3. David Jiricek (RHD-CBJ)
4. Marco Rossi (C-Min)
5. William Eklund (LW-SJS)
6. Logan Cooley (C-ARI)
7. Frank Nazar (C-Chi)
8. Luke Hughes (LHD-NJD)
9. Alexander Holtz (RW-NJD)
10. Simon Nemec (RHD-NJD)
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15 mai 2023 à 16 h 35
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16 mai 2023 à 14 h 1
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This is super left field to the WTFth degree, but I have this creeping feeling that the Blues take Rykov with one of their 3rds. Like somehow I just know it's coming. Like a shadow monster from the last Thor. They LOVE sneaky, feisty buggers who come out of that region of Russia a whole lot and he's so young they don't need to fret over "will he or won't he and when can he?" - they can just sit back and let him develop. There's every chance he gets snapped up by Avtomobilist or even SKA within two years, and his training staff/practice level improve massively.
17 mai 2023 à 11 h 17
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17 mai 2023 à 11 h 26
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Literal Franchise Defensemen in the late 2nd. HUGHES W
18 mai 2023 à 14 h 40
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18 mai 2023 à 15 h 6
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I thought the top picture was Grebenkin and just about asked "why does he look like he's in his 50s"

He still looks a lot older than he is, but it's not that bad
18 mai 2023 à 15 h 56
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Great value for a 5th round pick



21 mai 2023 à 8 h 44
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It appears, as of today, this is the existing list of Aug 15 NCAA free agents:

TM: Player, Pos, School

ARI: John Farinacci, C, Harvard (confirmed ARI will not sign)
BUF: Ryan Johnson, LHD, Minnesota
CAR: Kevin Wall, RW, Penn State (but is "expected to go pro")
COL: Nick Leivermann, LHD, Notre Dame
COL: Tyler Weiss, C/W, Omaha

DAL: Ben Brinkman, LHD, Notre Dame
DET: Robert Mastrosimone, C, Arizona State (confirmed DET will not sign)
MTL: Jack Gorniak, RW, Wisconsin (confirmed MTL will not sign)
NYR: Simon Kjellberg, LHD, Northern Michigan
PHI: Gavin Hain, LW, North Dakota

PHI: Jay O'Brien, C, Boston University (confirmed PHI will not sign)
TOR: Ryan O'Connell, LHD, Michigan Tech
WPG: Harrison Blaisdell, C, New Hampshire
WPG: Austin Wong, C/W, Harvard

Notes:
-- None were in transfer portal, which is now closed
-- Only Johnson, Mastrosimone, Kjellberg, Blaisdell could still opt for fifth year.
-- Wall has a year, but has been announced he is not returning.
-- Farinacci and Wong play Ivy league, which won't allow an extra year (would have had to transfer).
-- O'Brien and Johnson were 1st rounders, so their teams would get 2024 2nd round compensatory picks
21 mai 2023 à 9 h 1
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https://whl.ca/video/2023-whl-championship-post-game-kevin-korchinski

Perhaps I treated him too harshly
21 mai 2023 à 14 h 26
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2022 Draft deserved more love
21 mai 2023 à 15 h 30
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Literal Franchise Defensemen in the late 2nd. HUGHES W


I wouldn't bank on junior level production, but he looks like a stud. Kind of like pocket Quinn Hughes
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21 mai 2023 à 15 h 34
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I wouldn't bank on junior level production, but he looks like a stud. Kind of like pocket Quinn Hughes


Quinn Hughes was my Comp for him, if he hits star status thats the type of Player I think you can expect.
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21 mai 2023 à 15 h 35
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Cutter GOATier got a hatty btw
21 mai 2023 à 15 h 48
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Quoting: Juiceman
I wouldn't bank on junior level production, but he looks like a stud. Kind of like pocket Quinn Hughes


This isn't Junior. Literal best numbers we've seen in a very long time. Raise your expectations. Anything worse than a top pairing defender, he's a bust.
21 mai 2023 à 15 h 49
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This isn't Junior. Literal best numbers we've seen in a very long time. Raise your expectations. Anything worse than a top pairing defender, he's a bust.


College is basically juniors. Be happy with a top 4 defender. Most 2nd round picks never make the NHL
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21 mai 2023 à 16 h 10
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College is basically juniors. Be happy with a top 4 defender. Most 2nd round picks never make the NHL


With the stats he's putting up, I won't be happy with a top 4 defender. When we made the pick, that's what I was hoping for. Now I'm hoping for another PK Subban
21 mai 2023 à 16 h 21
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With the stats he's putting up, I won't be happy with a top 4 defender. When we made the pick, that's what I was hoping for. Now I'm hoping for another PK Subban


You're asking too much from him. Plenty of players put up insane junior numbers but don't turn into that kind of player. A top 4 defenseman is a very good player to get from the 2nd round
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21 mai 2023 à 16 h 52
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You're asking too much from him. Plenty of players put up insane junior numbers but don't turn into that kind of player. A top 4 defenseman is a very good player to get from the 2nd round


Who else has put up numbers similar to him and not made it? He's putting up historic numbers.
23 mai 2023 à 17 h 54
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CGITBPITNHL

I plan on hyping GOATier up like he's a Canadiens trade deadline piece FYI
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23 mai 2023 à 19 h 33
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CGITBPITNHL

I plan on hyping GOATier up like he's a Canadiens trade deadline piece FYI


you think he's NHL ready next szn? or is he committed to ncaa
23 mai 2023 à 19 h 52
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you think he's NHL ready next szn? or is he committed to ncaa


he's going back for another year. I think he could play next season but I don't mind him going back another year. let him play on a Stacked BC team next year and develop all parts of his game and most importantly as a center.

It's a lot better of a place to let him develop as a center, Mistakes are much more forgiving.
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24 mai 2023 à 10 h 48
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Quoting: KSIxSKULLS
Who else has put up numbers similar to him and not made it? He's putting up historic numbers.


go look at Justin Schultz's college numbers
24 mai 2023 à 13 h 43
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go look at Justin Schultz's college numbers


No one has done what Hutson has done at this age, Hutson is the most productive U19 NCAA defenseman since Craig Redmond had 54 points in 1982-83
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24 mai 2023 à 14 h 8
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go look at Justin Schultz's college numbers


He had 22 points as a 19 YO? They aren't even comparable.
 
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