NO MORE OFFENSE ONLY FORWRDS

Jersey would still need to add and there's nothing at all that starts the conversation for Scheifele on the New York deal.

Rangers really don't have the cap for Scheiefe. Blues are thousands times better just resigning Perron and keeping Kostin and the first rounder than Wheeler.
A lot better options for Jersey than 6.2m Hellybuck for two years. Heck UFA Campbell and Helly have the same numbers, they can sign Campbell cheaper and keep the second overall.

2nd overall pick for Helly is brutal.

Neither St Louis or the Rangers can afford Wheeler and Scheifele respectively.

blues dont need wheeler and so we decline. plus inner division trading is a no no

Disagree- only two years of CH and then he’s UFA’d vs one of the best prospects in the draft that you can control for almost a decade. Plus he’s almost 30. If NJ adds, it’s nothing more than a B level prospect

Super hard pass, thanks.

Your description explains why NJD likely doesn’t touch this.

Wheeler would have alot of super hard passes to Schenn for some goooooaaaaallllzzzzz

Easy PASS from the Rangers.

Cool. Then Winnipeg will pass.

No, Jersey wouldn't need to add.

There you go, hold onto assets and continue to suck as opposed to accepting a fair deal and executing a proper rebuild. Nice!

Blues pass. We don't have the need or the space for wheeler

They'd be crazy to pass on the 2nd overall pick for Helle.

Rangers accept and add if Jets retain some salary

I disagree. They would. It's not video game value were talking about here.

You mean if the Jets make the trade they'll be world beaters just like Jersey?

It's not a video game.

The Jets are clearly in a state of disarray with more than a couple guys who want out, they're not winning any cups any time soon and wouldn't get a better offer than this though I doubt NJ would actually do this.

Also I really hope Winnipeg isn't the team that signs Helle to his next contract, it'll likely be an anchor from day one.

I can see not signing him to his next contact, but the Jets can't afford to take all the risk now and trade Hellebuyck for a single pick. Winnipeg takes all the risk, Jersey takes none.

What of that one pick busts? Th then the Jets have traded a top 5 goalie for nothing. Jersey has to assume some of the risk as well for it to make sense.

Which is why trades for high picks don't usually work.

What is this logic? NJ assumes plenty of risk in addition to losing 6M+ of cap space. What if CH gets injured? What if his performance declines? If the pick in WPG busts, that’s on the scouting department. **** happens. But to say NJ assumes none of the risk is ludicrous

Right you're only looking at it from Jersey's point of view. First off the $6 mil cap space thing is a non-point. If NJ it's worried about the cap space, then don't make an offer for $6mil goalie.

What if 2OA gets injured, what if his play declines after being drafted? What if CH gets back to his Vezina form and 2OA turns out ordinary? So, every risk NJ takes, Winnipeg takes. Except the odds of the bad side developing for NJ are a far less since they are dealing with a known commodity. While Winnipeg's risks are much higher pinning all their hopes on one single player that has never played a game in the NHL.

If the pick doesn't reach their maximum potential, or very close to it, the Jets outright lose the trade badly.

You say "well that's on scouting", when everyone knows the draft is a crap shoot. A smart scouting team would want some insurance on their bet. NJ is getting a known commodity, Winnipeg is getting a magic bean.

Jersey has to assume some of the risk, to make it enticing for Winnipeg.

That's why trades like this don't happen without desperate teams. The value in a vacuum works, but most times, not in real life. So, unless Winnipeg goes full scorched earth rebuild, it just doesn't make sense for them.

I wouldn't be worried about the 2nd overall pick being a bust, I'd be more worried about keeping Helle and getting at best a late 1st and some B-prospect for him while the Jets continue to spiral down the toilet becoming a more irrelevant team further from contending than ever.

Highly doubtful NJ would do this anyway, their GM doesn't seem like an idiot.