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Créé par: NorthMan
Équipe: 2022-23 Flames de Calgary
Date de création initiale: 27 juin 2022
Publié: 27 juin 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Lucic retires
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
22 400 000 $
45 000 000 $
1900 000 $
79 500 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
89 700 000 $
32 300 000 $
32 300 000 $
21 500 000 $
78 750 000 $
21 500 000 $
Transactions
1.
CGY
  1. Mercer, Dawson
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (NJD)
2.
CGY
  1. Bertuzzi, Tyler
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (DET)
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (DET)
Détails additionnels:
8th Overall
DET
  1. Dubé, Dillon
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (NJD)
Détails additionnels:
2nd Overall
3.
CGY
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (NYI)
4.
ARI
  1. Monahan, Sean
  2. Välimäki, Juuso
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (DET)
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (CGY)
Détails additionnels:
8OA
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2022
Logo de CGY
Logo de DET
Logo de CGY
Logo de CGY
2023
Logo de CGY
Logo de NYI
Logo de CGY
Logo de CGY
Logo de CGY
2024
Logo de CGY
Logo de CGY
Logo de CGY
Logo de CGY
Logo de CGY
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2283 500 000 $72 757 500 $0 $400 000 $10 742 500 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Flames de Calgary
9 700 000 $9 700 000 $
AG
UFA - 7
Logo de Flames de Calgary
4 850 000 $4 850 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
2 375 000 $2 375 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
AD, C
RFA - 2
8 750 000 $8 750 000 $
AG
UFA - 8
Logo de Flames de Calgary
863 333 $863 333 $
AG
RFA - 2
Logo de Flames de Calgary
5 350 000 $5 350 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Flames de Calgary
4 900 000 $4 900 000 $
AD, AG
NTC
UFA - 5
Logo de Flames de Calgary
2 300 000 $2 300 000 $
AD, C, AG
UFA - 4
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Flames de Calgary
1 237 500 $1 237 500 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Flames de Calgary
4 550 000 $4 550 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
Logo de Flames de Calgary
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
4 600 000 $4 600 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Flames de Calgary
1 125 000 $1 125 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Flames de Calgary
750 000 $750 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
2 400 000 $2 400 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Flames de Calgary
2 300 000 $2 300 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Flames de Calgary
900 000 $900 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 2
Logo de Flames de Calgary
5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Flames de Calgary
912 500 $912 500 $
DG
UFA - 1

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27 juin 2022 à 5 h 27
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Devils accept.
27 juin 2022 à 5 h 30
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Devils trade is "fair" but then you went and traded down from 2nd OA to 8th + traded a cost controlled middle 6 winger for a freaking rental
27 juin 2022 à 5 h 36
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Devils decline. The correct move for the future of the team, both in terms of personnel and cap space, is to keep our top assets. The only Tkachuk trade I'd consider is 2oa alone and even then I'm hesitant.
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27 juin 2022 à 5 h 47
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Also you need one more scratched player and that would put you over the cap. Cap is 82.5 this fall.
27 juin 2022 à 5 h 48
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Devils decline. The correct move for the future of the team, both in terms of personnel and cap space, is to keep our top assets. The only Tkachuk trade I'd consider is 2oa alone and even then I'm hesitant.


If NJ does go after a guy who is going to cost a ton, probably won't be for a guy who just had an astronomical career year that is much different than previous years (Tkachuk/Miller) if it's going to also cost a ton to acquire them. Also, if Mercer has similar skill sets to Tkachuk, it makes more sense to keep him, and give up assets/spend cap on a guy with different skill set than the rest of the core

Also, compensation for a Tkachuk OS is going to be 2 firsts, a 2nd, and a 3rd. Is Mercer worth a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd?
27 juin 2022 à 5 h 49
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Detroit declines.
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27 juin 2022 à 5 h 57
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If NJ does go after a guy who is going to cost a ton, probably won't be for a guy who just had an astronomical career year that is much different than previous years (Tkachuk/Miller) if it's going to also cost a ton to acquire them. Also, if Mercer has similar skill sets to Tkachuk, it makes more sense to keep him, and give up assets/spend cap on a guy with different skill set than the rest of the core

Also, compensation for a Tkachuk OS is going to be 2 firsts, a 2nd, and a 3rd. Is Mercer worth a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd?


An offer sheet for Tkachuk is quite frankly ridiculous. The question that should be asked is would you rather have Mercer and Slafkovsky/Cooley/Wright on ELCs or Tkachuk being paid 8.5, 9, 9.5 million or more. Even if Tkachuk alone is better than Mercer and the 2oa pick, how much is that 7m+ in cap space worth?
27 juin 2022 à 6 h 1
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Quoting: pretzelcoatl
An offer sheet for Tkachuk is quite frankly ridiculous. The question that should be asked is would you rather have Mercer and Slafkovsky/Cooley/Wright on ELCs or Tkachuk being paid 8.5, 9, 9.5 million or more. Even if Tkachuk alone is better than Mercer and the 2oa pick, how much is that 7m+ in cap space worth?


Both teams would want the ELCs since it allows them to be more competitive, especially with the stagnant cap.

For NJ most of their draft picks are probably going to accept that their hit comes under Hughes' unless they are a prolific goal scorer or way better. So it would be best if they didn't upgrade their players for a similar mlre developed version. I think Jersey makes a bid for Forsberg but perhaps turns out to be like the Tavares signing for Tor (which is mainly an issue because of the stagnant cap). Can also see Jersey trading Zacha or 2OA to Vancouver and trying to get Boeser or Fiala from Minnesota.
27 juin 2022 à 6 h 49
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Both teams would want the ELCs since it allows them to be more competitive, especially with the stagnant cap.

For NJ most of their draft picks are probably going to accept that their hit comes under Hughes' unless they are a prolific goal scorer or way better. So it would be best if they didn't upgrade their players for a similar mlre developed version. I think Jersey makes a bid for Forsberg but perhaps turns out to be like the Tavares signing for Tor (which is mainly an issue because of the stagnant cap). Can also see Jersey trading Zacha or 2OA to Vancouver and trying to get Boeser or Fiala from Minnesota.


2oa is too much for either of those players. Devils have targeted Garland in the past so that's who they'd be after from Vancouver. I'd offer Minnesota something like Gritsyuk and a 2023 1st protected/conditional for Fiala, and fot Vancouver something like Zacha and a 2nd for Garland. One or the other, not both deals
27 juin 2022 à 8 h 48
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Isles trade is interesting. I don't think it's out of the question, but would probably be dependent on the Isles moving out some salary in another trade first.
27 juin 2022 à 9 h 1
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2oa is too much for either of those players. Devils have targeted Garland in the past so that's who they'd be after from Vancouver. I'd offer Minnesota something like Gritsyuk and a 2023 1st protected/conditional for Fiala, and fot Vancouver something like Zacha and a 2nd for Garland. One or the other, not both deals


Minnesota probably wants the 2OA, so that they can draft a Fiala replacement. I think a deal with Vancouver would need to move multiple guys due to their cap situation (Zacha over Garland probably doesn't save them much), I would think it would be one of Miller or Boeser along with them. Severson and the 2OA probably interest Van. Perhaps Vancouver would offer Miller/Boeser+Garland+15th OA for 2OA+Zacha+Severson but I can't think that NJ would take that deal
27 juin 2022 à 9 h 18
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Minnesota probably wants the 2OA, so that they can draft a Fiala replacement. I think a deal with Vancouver would need to move multiple guys due to their cap situation (Zacha over Garland probably doesn't save them much), I would think it would be one of Miller or Boeser along with them. Severson and the 2OA probably interest Van. Perhaps Vancouver would offer Miller/Boeser+Garland+15th OA for 2OA+Zacha+Severson but I can't think that NJ would take that deal


I don't want Miller at all. If Vancouver wants 2oa it's gonna cost them at minimum Demko and 15oa.
27 juin 2022 à 9 h 36
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I don't want Miller at all. If Vancouver wants 2oa it's gonna cost them at minimum Demko and 15oa.


Yeah, I would hate for NJ to do a move like that especially if extending Miller would cost something that does not start with a 7.

I'll be disappointed though if NJ drafts 2OA, I want to see a blockbuster trade or two this offseason
27 juin 2022 à 10 h 21
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I'll be disappointed though if NJ drafts 2OA, I want to see a blockbuster trade or two this offseason


If that's disappointing you haven't been keeping up with the prospects. There's some serious talent in the top 5.
27 juin 2022 à 10 h 28
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You essentially turned Matthew Tkachuk into Tyler Bertuzzi, Dawson Mercer & Jakub Chychrun, which is not too bad.

As a Detroit fan, I don’t like the Bertuzzi deal.
27 juin 2022 à 14 h 16
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So I have no idea who Dube is. Seems like a low level middle 6 center, which Detroit already has Suter and Rasmussen who fall into the same category, as well as Veleno who projects to be middle 6. So Dube seems pretty much a throw in.

Essentially, this breaks down into Detroit trading their 8th and Bertuzzi and a 3rd round pick to get the right to draft Cooley or Slafvkosky. Neither player is a slam dunk top line NHLer. Or Detroit holds onto 8th overall, and has options that can pan out to be top 6 forwards or top 4 D, depending on how the first 7 picks go. Plus, this is Yzerman, who managed to get Seider and Raymond with later picks, and both players may pan out to being the best in their draft classes. Kasper looks NHL ready to be a second line center, and there are some really good D that are 2 to 3 years from being top 4.

Basically, Detroit says absolutely not. There are better uses for their assets.
 
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