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Change up Flames 22-23

Créé par: Real_MC_Hockey
Équipe: 2022-23 Flames de Calgary
Date de création initiale: 24 juin 2022
Publié: 24 juin 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Gaudreau, Tkachuk, Monahan all stay, trade 2 goodish guys (Dube, Valimaki) for 2 cheaper guys, Lucic to Buffalo with sweetener, Beaulieu replaces Tanev who is on LTIR awhile after surgery
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  1. Choix de 6e ronde en 2022 (CGY)
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24 juin 2022 à 21 h 57
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Unless Tkachuk is coming back, Jarvis is untouchable
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24 juin 2022 à 22 h 0
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Unless Tkachuk is coming back, Jarvis is untouchable

Oh that sooooo makes sense…he scored 40 points, not 100!
24 juin 2022 à 22 h 1
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Oh that sooooo makes sense…he scored 40 points, not 100!


Just say you’re not aware who Jarvis is. Don’t dig the hole deeper
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24 juin 2022 à 22 h 1
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Canes delete your number for proposing that.
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24 juin 2022 à 22 h 3
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Matthew Tkachuk isn't signing for 4 years, He either takes his one year qualifier or it's an 8 year deal nothing less.

Seriously doubt that Buffalo is on Milan Lucic 10 team trade list. No reason for him to waive for a rebuilding team.

Seth Jarvis is worth more than Dude and Valimaki, Yeah Carolina passes.
24 juin 2022 à 22 h 3
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Canes delete your number for proposing that.


hey at least he didnt attach morrow
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24 juin 2022 à 22 h 4
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hey at least he didnt attach morrow


Might as well throw in Morrow Necas a first and Svech
24 juin 2022 à 22 h 4
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Just say you’re not aware who Jarvis is. Don’t dig the hole deeper
F off. You do the “Typical overvaluation” of your guy. Dube is equivalent and Valimaki can be a stud in the right place like Carolina….do some research yourself
24 juin 2022 à 22 h 5
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Canes delete your number for proposing that.
Youknow nothing about Dube apparently and Valimaki was highly touted
24 juin 2022 à 22 h 6
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Might as well throw in Morrow Necas a first and Svech

Hahaha do some research on whatI proposed
24 juin 2022 à 22 h 6
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F off. You do the “Typical overvaluation” of your guy. Dube is equivalent and Valimaki can be a stud in the right place like Carolina….do some research yourself


Lol - you looked up Jarvis production and Dube production last season and said “oh these guys had similar numbers”. What else did you factor in?

Please find one flames fan on here to tell you this is anywhere close to fair value in the trade and I’ll send you an apology video.
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24 juin 2022 à 22 h 7
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F off. You do the “Typical overvaluation” of your guy. Dube is equivalent and Valimaki can be a stud in the right place like Carolina….do some research yourself


Why is typical overvaluation in quotes?
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24 juin 2022 à 22 h 8
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Lol - you looked up Jarvis production and Dube production last season and said “oh these guys had similar numbers”. What else did you factor in?

Please find one flames fan on here to tell you this is anywhere close to fair value in the trade and I’ll send you an apology video.

Check out Dube as captain of Team Canada (long time #1 hockey nation in world) and his other resume items….Valimaki way better than Chatfield. Nice try…lots of Flames fans would agree with me 100%
24 juin 2022 à 22 h 9
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Why is typical overvaluation in quotes?

Meaning it’s so typical of shortsighted fan-boys like you
24 juin 2022 à 22 h 11
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Not a chance Jarvis is getting traded for Dube and Valimaki. He was a top 6 forward for a really good team as a 19/20 year old.
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24 juin 2022 à 22 h 12
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Check out Dube as captain of Team Canada (long time #1 hockey nation in world) and his other resume items….Valimaki way better than Chatfield. Nice try…lots of Flames fans would agree with me 100%


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Meaning it’s so typical of shortsighted fan-boys like you


Idk why I feed the trolls but…

Jarvis outperformed Dube’s best season in his age 19 rookie season with no AHL seasoning. The kid is likely a future star in the league and on an ELC which is extremely valuable for a contending team. Dube is a nice piece but project out as a middle 6 winger and is more expensive and older than Jarvis. Valimaki was drafted 5 years ago and can’t crack the roster full time. He may not be a bust yet but he’s dangerously close to that territory.

I’ll keep this post pinned so I can keep an eye out for a single person to agree with you so I can apologize. Have a good night little man!
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24 juin 2022 à 22 h 16
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Idk why I feed the trolls but…

Jarvis outperformed Dube’s best season in his age 19 rookie season with no AHL seasoning. The kid is likely a future star in the league and on an ELC which is extremely valuable for a contending team. Dube is a nice piece but project out as a middle 6 winger and is more expensive and older than Jarvis. Valimaki was drafted 5 years ago and can’t crack the roster full time. He may not be a bust yet but he’s dangerously close to that territory.

I’ll keep this post pinned so I can keep an eye out for a single person to agree with you so I can apologize. Have a good night little man!


Valimaki had injury problems and Carolina loves skating D-men so would love him…Carolina needs solid forwards now to win Cupin next 2 years, Dube helps that one and Jarvis is unproven. Flames fans won’t necessarily publicly support me, but many would agree Iam sure
24 juin 2022 à 22 h 19
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Oh that sooooo makes sense…he scored 40 points, not 100!


Oh no, a 19 year old only scored 40 points in his 65 games this year! Oh he must be so bad!

I mean no offense when I say this, but this is the perfect time for this

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24 juin 2022 à 22 h 22
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Valimaki had injury problems and Carolina loves skating D-men so would love him…Carolina needs solid forwards now to win Cupin next 2 years, Dube helps that one and Jarvis is unproven. Flames fans won’t necessarily publicly support me, but many would agree Iam sure


Jarvis has already proven he’s better than Dube. How is that unproven? This was Dube best season and Jarvis out performed him in his first season. Canes don’t have space for Valimaki with our own prospects ready or close to ready (Keane Sellgren Morrow Heimosalmi and Chatfield). They’re not gonna clog up the pipeline with Valimaki who hasn’t shown much whether bc of injury or not. You can’t discount injuries - durability is part of the game.

Why wouldn’t flames fans support you if this was a logical and reasonable stance? You have to look beyond surface numbers (which even those don’t help your case) to evaluate players and trades.
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24 juin 2022 à 22 h 38
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F off. You do the “Typical overvaluation” of your guy. Dube is equivalent and Valimaki can be a stud in the right place like Carolina….do some research yourself


I'm sorry bud, but Seth Jarvis is a future stud, Dube and Valimaki don't come close. Jarvis is the real deal, those other two are depth pieces at best.
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24 juin 2022 à 23 h 13
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Sabres made their cap move and theres a 0% chance Lucic will play in Buffalo to start
24 juin 2022 à 23 h 17
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F off. You do the “Typical overvaluation” of your guy. Dube is equivalent and Valimaki can be a stud in the right place like Carolina….do some research yourself


Dube isnt close to Jarvis. Jarvis in 68 games scored more than half of what Dube has done in 200 if youre going purely off of points
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25 juin 2022 à 0 h 36
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F off. You do the “Typical overvaluation” of your guy. Dube is equivalent and Valimaki can be a stud in the right place like Carolina….do some research yourself


Dube is at a .375p/g and is 23
Jarvis is at a .588p/g and is 20

they are not the same.
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25 juin 2022 à 0 h 56
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If hell has frozen over Buffalo might consider a Lucic trade. But I’m pretty sure that it hasn’t. If for no other reason than the fact they are retiring Ryan Miller’s number next season, and you think they might even consider the idea of having Milan Lucic wearing Sabres colors at that game. Let’s just say the bad blood did not go away with time.
25 juin 2022 à 6 h 55
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Quoting: Real_MC_Hockey
Youknow nothing about Dube apparently and Valimaki was highly touted


Quoting: Real_MC_Hockey
Check out Dube as captain of Team Canada (long time #1 hockey nation in world) and his other resume items….Valimaki way better than Chatfield. Nice try…lots of Flames fans would agree with me 100%


All that stuff was in the past. Sorry, but they really haven’t done that much at the NHL level. In half of his rookie year, Jarvis was able to make himself a staple on the first line, and lead all rookies in point production from March onwards. And that was after going over a point per game in AHL then getting sent back to the WHL because of a stupid rule and going over a point per game, and look where he is now.

Dube and Valimaki are both nice, and they WERE highly touted, but it really doesn’t seem like they are as high on the depth charts as they once were. So unless someone like Tkachuk is coming back, Jarvis is off the table. Cheers and have a nice day.
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