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Would Toronto Accept

Créé par: Tonys_Pizza
Équipe: 2022-23 Predators de Nashville
Date de création initiale: 23 juin 2022
Publié: 23 juin 2022
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  1. Knies, Matthew [Liste de réserve]
  2. Mrázek, Petr
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (TOR)
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TML would buyout Myers for the cap benefit
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23 juin 2022 à 21 h 36
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If they didn't, Dubas would be exiled to Yukon
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23 juin 2022 à 21 h 36
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I would take that and run tor needs to add in that scenario
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23 juin 2022 à 21 h 37
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Yes, That is a franchise elite starting goaltender for a B+ prospect and a late 1st.
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23 juin 2022 à 21 h 37
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They hit accept and won’t relax till it’s gone thru
23 juin 2022 à 21 h 38
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Zero chance i see David Poile dealing Juuse Saros.
23 juin 2022 à 21 h 39
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Quoting: Caniac2000
If they didn't, Dubas would be exiled to Yukon


What would balance the trade more than for each side? Make it a 2023 first? Add more picks?
23 juin 2022 à 21 h 39
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Zero chance i see David Poile dealing Juuse Saros.


Saros 100% could be dealt. It would need 10x this return, but 100% could happen.
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23 juin 2022 à 21 h 40
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Quoting: jassan28
Yes, That is a franchise elite starting goaltender for a B+ prospect and a late 1st.


Knies is not a B+ he’s more of an a- this trade is essentially knies for saros Toronto would add 2 firsts in this trade
23 juin 2022 à 21 h 40
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What would balance the trade more than for each side? Make it a 2023 first? Add more picks?


2 leafs firsts
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23 juin 2022 à 21 h 42
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Quoting: Caniac2000
Saros 100% could be dealt. It would need 10x this return, but 100% could happen.


Not saying it's not impossible, but it's definitely not happening for that return.
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Quoting: TampaBayLightning22
Zero chance i see David Poile dealing Juuse Saros.


I’d argue Nashville cup window does not align with saros. So wouldn’t the best opportunity for Nashville be to target a window with Askarov and this would also be an excellent opportunity for saros in the peak of his career to play on a team that is in the middle of their window?
23 juin 2022 à 21 h 42
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What would balance the trade more than for each side? Make it a 2023 first? Add more picks?


Goaltender values are hard to pick, but if I'm Poile here, the only piece (outside of Matthews) that Toronto has that interests me is Nylander. Knies is going to be good. Abrusseze and Robertson are good, nothing special. Lilly and Sandin are good, not special. There's no cream of the crop blue-chip prospect that makes sense here in my opinion. I don't know the Toronto system as well as I know others, so that's without doing any research, but that's my initial reaction.
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23 juin 2022 à 21 h 43
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Knies is not a B+ he’s more of an a- this trade is essentially knies for saros Toronto would add 2 firsts in this trade


Saros is a Vezina candidate goaltender, aka the 3rd best goaltender in the NHL. Knies ain't close to being a Top 10 prospect let alone the impact Saros has for his team
23 juin 2022 à 21 h 43
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Quoting: Caniac2000
Saros 100% could be dealt. It would need 10x this return, but 100% could happen.


Honestly if you could move Saros , now would be the time. His value won’t go higher with his contract years coming down and his play is elite. If they can get 2nd overall for him and draft Cooley, that could be their 1C in a few years. And Askarov can replace Saros. Duchene, Johansen and Granlund are pretty meh
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23 juin 2022 à 21 h 44
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Goaltender values are hard to pick, but if I'm Poile here, the only piece (outside of Matthews) that Toronto has that interests me is Nylander. Knies is going to be good. Abrusseze and Robertson are good, nothing special. Lilly and Sandin are good, not special. There's no cream of the crop blue-chip prospect that makes sense here in my opinion. I don't know the Toronto system as well as I know others, so that's without doing any research, but that's my initial reaction.


I would give up Willy+ for saros any day as long as it’s somewhat reasonable
23 juin 2022 à 21 h 45
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Saros is a Vezina candidate goaltender, aka the 3rd best goaltender in the NHL. Knies ain't close to being a Top 10 prospect let alone the impact Saros has for his team


Without Saros Nashville is immediately in the Conner Bedard sweepstakes though.
23 juin 2022 à 21 h 45
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Quoting: Tonys_Pizza
I’d argue Nashville cup window does not align with saros. So wouldn’t the best opportunity for Nashville be to target a window with Askarov and this would also be an excellent opportunity for saros in the peak of his career to play on a team that is in the middle of their window?


Once Askarov takes the reins, Then yes Saros is out the door. But i doubt that's anytime soon.
23 juin 2022 à 21 h 49
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The question is will the preds accept
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23 juin 2022 à 21 h 50
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Quoting: Tonys_Pizza
Without Saros Nashville is immediately in the Conner Bedard sweepstakes though.


Oilers place Holloway and 2023 1st, and more
23 juin 2022 à 21 h 51
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Honestly if you could move Saros , now would be the time. His value won’t go higher with his contract years coming down and his play is elite. If they can get 2nd overall for him and draft Cooley, that could be their 1C in a few years. And Askarov can replace Saros. Duchene, Johansen and Granlund are pretty meh


To be completely honest if I was Poile that’s exactly what I’d do if we lose forsberg. I’d also tell josi that we’re about to rebuild and if you wanna win a cup I’ll send to a contender or someone that is close. Josi would also bring back a haul. Jeannot is another one that could bring back something good.
Fun to talk about but Poile will never rebuild he’s good with being good enough.

As for this proposal I think is really weak and I said this before that Toronto doesn’t really have anything I’d want if we were to trade saros. I’m not in love with any of their prospects. I’d look to a team with better prospects
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23 juin 2022 à 21 h 51
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Yes, That is a franchise elite starting goaltender for a B+ prospect and a late 1st.


Dubas considers him an A prospect, but he would do the trade except I don't think he would want to buy our Myers (perhaps bring in another team to retain part of his cap).
23 juin 2022 à 21 h 51
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Without Saros Nashville is immediately in the Conner Bedard sweepstakes though.


Bedard, Cooley and Askarov. Pretty good future
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23 juin 2022 à 21 h 53
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To be completely honest if I was Poile that’s exactly what I’d do if we lose forsberg. I’d also tell josi that we’re about to rebuild and if you wanna win a come I’ll send to a contender or someone that is close. Josi would also bring back a haul. Jeannot is another one that could bring back something good.
Fun to talk about but Poile will never rebuild he’s good with being good enough.

As for this proposal I think is really weak and I said this before that Toronto doesn’t really have anything I’d want if we were to trade saros. I’m not in love with any of there prospects. I’d look to a team with better prospects


If you don’t retool now, you’ll be rebuilding in 3 years. I think it’s a must. Jeannot could probably return a Hagel like package
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23 juin 2022 à 21 h 56
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Oilers place Holloway and 2023 1st, and more


Depends on what the more is but that’s a solid start. Saros in Edmonton would be a real solid pick up for them and would put them in true contender mode for years.
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23 juin 2022 à 21 h 56
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Quoting: GeauxPreds1
To be completely honest if I was Poile that’s exactly what I’d do if we lose forsberg. I’d also tell josi that we’re about to rebuild and if you wanna win a cup I’ll send to a contender or someone that is close. Josi would also bring back a haul. Jeannot is another one that could bring back something good.
Fun to talk about but Poile will never rebuild he’s good with being good enough.

As for this proposal I think is really weak and I said this before that Toronto doesn’t really have anything I’d want if we were to trade saros. I’m not in love with any of their prospects. I’d look to a team with better prospects


There would be a massive bidding war for sure, so even if there ask was something like this, the return would increase. I think Jersey would potentially give a great package.
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