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Créé par: HolyShildt
Équipe: 2022-23 Blues de St-Louis
Date de création initiale: 23 juin 2022
Publié: 23 juin 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Really looking to improve the future of this team with this one

I saw a few Bruins ACGM trades involving Barbashev and Gryz, figured this would be fair value

Am very interested in the prospects of a Kakko for Tarasenko trade. Kakko is starting to blossom as a very good defensive forward, and don't get me started on him getting benched in the playoffs. Saw some similar trades with him and Patrick Kane, and to be fair, I think Vladdy would be a better fit. Once again, not sure on the value
Getting rid of Tarasenko frees up some cap, and I would love to potentially get Marchment, but I figure the cap room could be used wisely to bring a certain brother home
All in all, got kinda bored, but probably would be content with just Sturn and Gryz, but if the values are right I think this could extend our window much longer than it currently is set up to be
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
11 250 000 $
12 500 000 $
11 250 000 $
11 250 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
31 500 000 $
44 750 000 $
1950 000 $
Transactions
1.
BOS
  1. Barbashev, Ivan
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (STL)
2.
STL
  1. Choix de 7e ronde en 2022 (DET)
Détails additionnels:
Any team's plan Z
DET
  1. Scandella, Marco
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (STL)
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STL
  1. Kakko, Kaapo [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (NYR)
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2482 500 000 $72 810 833 $1 100 000 $82 500 $9 689 167 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AG, AD
NTC
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2 800 000 $2 800 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
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2 800 000 $2 800 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
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5 800 000 $5 800 000 $
AG, AD, C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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1 875 000 $1 875 000 $
C
UFA - 1
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4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
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835 833 $835 833 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
AG, AD
RFA - 3
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
C, AG
NTC
UFA - 6
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
AD
RFA - 2
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750 000 $750 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
C
UFA - 3
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750 000 $750 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 8
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
G
NTC
UFA - 5
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3 687 500 $3 687 500 $
DG
UFA - 2
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 5
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 5
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950 000 $950 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
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950 000 $950 000 $
G
UFA - 3
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1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
DG
RFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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750 000 $750 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 1
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762 500 $762 500 $
DG
UFA - 2
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1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1

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23 juin 2022 à 6 h 48
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THE BLUES ARE NOT GOING TO TRADE FOR ANOTHER 5’9” LHD
BluesTheGreats a aimé ceci.
23 juin 2022 à 7 h 12
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You'd have to address about $5M in cap for Rangers to consider.
23 juin 2022 à 7 h 48
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That defence would get shredded in the playoffs physically. I know the game is shifting to speed but you aren’t winning with a few big guys and mostly tiny players
23 juin 2022 à 10 h 20
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Rangers say no.
Kakko is not being moved for a wing, let alone a pending UFA.

Kakko and laf are the core of a 2nd window. Kakko for maybe Robert Thomas. The rangers need centers, not wingers.
23 juin 2022 à 11 h 5
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Quoting: slater417
Rangers say no.
Kakko is not being moved for a wing, let alone a pending UFA.

Kakko and laf are the core of a 2nd window. Kakko for maybe Robert Thomas. The rangers need centers, not wingers.


Yeah, Thomas requires at the very least Schneider AND Kakko plus a pick. Kakko is not worth what you think he's worth.
23 juin 2022 à 12 h 16
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If A to Y falls through, Detroit will accept.
23 juin 2022 à 12 h 27
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Quoting: Chopper02
Yeah, Thomas requires at the very least Schneider AND Kakko plus a pick. Kakko is not worth what you think he's worth.


Kakkos value is definitely still very high. Played pretty solid in the playoffs and was part of our most consistent line (when GG wasn't giving them only 10min of TOI).
23 juin 2022 à 13 h 56
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Yeah, Thomas requires at the very least Schneider AND Kakko plus a pick. Kakko is not worth what you think he's worth.


Not saying anything about kakko's value. Im saying we're not moving him for a winger. Also theres plenty of examples of players whove taken a few years to fully develop. Theres a reason a guy goes 2nd overall, and most GM's still see plenty about him that gives him a high value.
23 juin 2022 à 14 h 0
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THE BLUES ARE NOT GOING TO TRADE FOR ANOTHER 5’9” LHD


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That defence would get shredded in the playoffs physically. I know the game is shifting to speed but you aren’t winning with a few big guys and mostly tiny players


Gryz is not your prototypical short offensive defenseman. He is ABSOLUTELY ELITE defensively and can move the puck with the best of them. We need to stop worrying about size and just get Parayko someone that CP doesn't have to try to bail out every game, and Gryz is just that. If you think the blues should pay a premium for Chychrun, or get a lesser, yet bigger dman in Soucy, that's fine, but lets not try to force ourselves to get the next Scandella in FA because he's tall
23 juin 2022 à 14 h 9
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Quoting: HolyShildt
Gryz is not your prototypical short offensive defenseman. He is ABSOLUTELY ELITE defensively and can move the puck with the best of them. We need to stop worrying about size and just get Parayko someone that CP doesn't have to try to bail out every game, and Gryz is just that. If you think the blues should pay a premium for Chychrun, or get a lesser, yet bigger dman in Soucy, that's fine, but lets not try to force ourselves to get the next Scandella in FA because he's tall


Wholeheartedly agree with you. Playing a clean game defensively has nothing to do with height, and not all undersized d-men play the same type of game. Grz would be a nice pickup.
23 juin 2022 à 17 h 0
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Quoting: HolyShildt
Gryz is not your prototypical short offensive defenseman. He is ABSOLUTELY ELITE defensively and can move the puck with the best of them. We need to stop worrying about size and just get Parayko someone that CP doesn't have to try to bail out every game, and Gryz is just that. If you think the blues should pay a premium for Chychrun, or get a lesser, yet bigger dman in Soucy, that's fine, but lets not try to force ourselves to get the next Scandella in FA because he's tall


You want the entire left side of the Blues defense to be guys 5'9" and under...I don't know what the future holds, but I'm pretty confident that it's not that. I don't think the Blues start next year with both Krug and Perrunovich in the lineup and now you want to add a 3rd undersized Dman. We'll see but I doubt it...
24 juin 2022 à 7 h 29
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Not saying anything about kakko's value. Im saying we're not moving him for a winger. Also theres plenty of examples of players whove taken a few years to fully develop. Theres a reason a guy goes 2nd overall, and most GM's still see plenty about him that gives him a high value.


Kakko is a solid player, don't get me wrong. But his value is not nearly as high as it was. Yes, he was taken 2nd overall for a reason, just like Lias Anderson was taken 7th overall, Yakupov was taken 1st overall, etc. I dont think Kakko is worth what it used to be, but I also acknowledge the Rangers have no need to move him. At this point, he's no bust by any means, but at best I think we can assume he has a Nichuskin like arc to his career
24 juin 2022 à 7 h 30
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Kakkos value is definitely still very high. Played pretty solid in the playoffs and was part of our most consistent line (when GG wasn't giving them only 10min of TOI).


His value isn't that high, certainly not close to anything like Thomas. That stated, Rangers have no reason to move him.
 
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