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Équipe: 2022-23 Jets de Winnipeg
Date de création initiale: 22 juin 2022
Publié: 22 juin 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
With PLD wanting to hit Free agency in 2024, this leaves the jets with pretty much no choice but to completely blow up the roster.
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RFAANSCAP HIT
22 000 000 $
2900 000 $
21 250 000 $
22 000 000 $
56 000 000 $
44 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
WPG
  1. Lysell, Fabian
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (BOS)
2.
WPG
  1. Hörnqvist, Patric
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (FLA)
Détails additionnels:
Hornqvist agrees to move lol
FLA
  1. Wheeler, Blake (4 125 000 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (WPG)
3.
WPG
  1. Puljujärvi, Jesse [Droits de RFA]
  2. Rodrigue, Olivier
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (EDM)
4.
WPG
  1. Barron, Justin
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (CGY)
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (FLA)
MTL
  1. Dubois, Pierre-Luc [Droits de RFA]
5.
WPG
  1. Boeser, Brock [Droits de RFA]
VAN
  1. Pionk, Neal
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (STL)
6.
WPG
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (PIT)
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (ANA)
Détails additionnels:
Any team
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2024
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AG
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894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AG, C
RFA - 2
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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900 000 $900 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 2
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AD
UFA - 3
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AG, AD
RFA - 1
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3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
AD
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UFA - 1
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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750 000 $750 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
AD
UFA - 3
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1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
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775 000 $775 000 $
AD
RFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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6 250 000 $6 250 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 6
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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795 000 $795 000 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
G
RFA - 1
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
DG
RFA - 2
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5 950 000 $5 950 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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750 000 $750 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance350 000 $$350K)
DG
RFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
DD
RFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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900 000 $900 000 $
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22 juin 2022 à 23 h 55
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Yeah I agree, rip the band-aid off now and don't prolong the inevitable.
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22 juin 2022 à 23 h 56
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I'd imagine the Jets hold onto Dubois and everyone else and push hard for two years and see what happens as opposed to a series of bad trades.

As we've learned from Trouba and Copp, Chevy won't move them until the last minute.
22 juin 2022 à 23 h 56
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laugh And Barry Trotz is even remotely thinking about coaching this team. It would be the worst decision of his career.
22 juin 2022 à 23 h 58
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Quoting: Windjammer
I'd imagine the Jets hold onto Dubois and everyone else and push hard for two years and see what happens as opposed to a series of bad trades.

As we've learned from Trouba and Copp, Chevy won't move them until the last minute.

At this point though if all signs are pointing that way, I don't see the point in holding out hope when likely could just end up with mediocre seasons again. The 2023 draft is absolutely loaded. No point in waiting in my opinion.
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22 juin 2022 à 23 h 59
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laugh And Barry Trotz is even remotely thinking about coaching this team. It would be the worst decision of his career.


Thats probably why he hasn't joined the Jets already. Probably going to be a big blow up at this point
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22 juin 2022 à 23 h 59
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That Helly deal gets beat easily. Go for Skinner, Borgault or Holloway and their 1st. I’d target NJ as they have the most assets that could help jumpstart the rebuild. Washington would be a good target too.
23 juin 2022 à 0 h 0
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Quoting: bunzy1034
At this point though if all signs are pointing that way, I don't see the point in holding out hope when likely could just end up with mediocre seasons again. The 2023 draft is absolutely loaded. No point in waiting in my opinion.


Well that may be true. I'm just pointing out what the most likely scenario is.
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23 juin 2022 à 0 h 1
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That Helly deal gets beat easily. Go for Skinner, Borgault or Holloway and their 1st. I’d target NJ as they have the most assets that could help jumpstart the rebuild. Washington would be a good target too.


Yeah it could, I just have a hard time seeing a goalie go for an absolute boat load. This trade still returns a young top 6 winger, A good goalie prospect and a first.
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23 juin 2022 à 0 h 3
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Yeah it could, I just have a hard time seeing a goalie go for an absolute boat load. This trade still returns a young top 6 winger, A good goalie prospect and a first.


By this point, McJesus will be demanding out unless they make a huge splash. Getting Helly would be it.
I think if he was on the block, there would be a lineup of teams making offers. Go check out the NJ Hf board, they are offering up a boatload.
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23 juin 2022 à 0 h 4
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If that's the case, I can't see why the rebuilding habs would trade assets for dubois and make their team better in the short term and miss out on an "absolutely loaded" draft as you called it. They may as well just wait until 2024 and make a push to sign him as a FA. This isn't very well thought up imo
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23 juin 2022 à 0 h 4
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I wonder if bob waives for Winnipeg that could be one ridiculous trade, if Maurice wants wheeler bad enough, would be nice to try and scoop lundell some how.
23 juin 2022 à 0 h 4
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Quoting: bunzy1034
Thats probably why he hasn't joined the Jets already. Probably going to be a big blow up at this point


Yeah all signs are pointing of PLD, Scheifele, Wheeler and Hellebuyck wanting out. they all know what is heading Winnipegs way.
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23 juin 2022 à 0 h 6
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If that's the case, I can't see why the rebuilding habs would trade assets for dubois and make their team better in the short term while they could just very well wait until 2024 and make a push to sign him as a FA. This isn't very well thought up imo

Probably be out termed and outbid by la and kopitar coming off the books, probably not a bad thing to get him earlier, but not that many firsts, would have to shine up a prospect or two to go also.
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23 juin 2022 à 0 h 8
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Probably be out termed and outbid by la and kopitar coming off the books, probably not a bad thing to get him earlier, but not that many firsts, would have to shine up a prospect or two to go also.


Precisely why I doubt they really want/need him. They'll be set with Suzuki-Wright-Dvorak down the middle in 2024. That sounds more than fine to compete in their division with teams like boston-toronto-tampa and most likely florida on the decline by then
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If that's the case, I can't see why the rebuilding habs would trade assets for dubois and make their team better in the short term and miss out on an "absolutely loaded" draft as you called it. They may as well just wait until 2024 and make a push to sign him as a FA. This isn't very well thought up imo


PLD is still young and fits in with the rebuild/retool moving forward. a late first and likely another late first, and a good prospect isn't insane for a 23 year old 1C who would sign with you long term in my opinion.
23 juin 2022 à 0 h 10
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PLD is still young and fits in with the rebuild/retool moving forward. a late first and likely another late first, and a good prospect isn't insane for a 23 year old 1C who would sign with you long term in my opinion.


Don't see him as a 1C, and I don't think I'm alone there. Ie both torts and maurice didn't seem to think much of him

And i'm not saying the offer isn't realistic, because it's a fine deal. Just not much sense to make it from the habs perspective if you ask me
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23 juin 2022 à 0 h 12
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Precisely why I doubt they really want/need him. They'll be set with Suzuki-Wright-Dvorak down the middle in 2024. That sounds more than fine to compete in their division with teams like boston-toronto-tampa and most likely florida on the decline by then

Dubois would be perfect to mix in that Center ice group, a little weight and down low force, over 3 light centers. But obviously the deal has to be right, and cap has to work. More holes that just that one also, so need to make the cap work along with some stud dman and price replacement.
23 juin 2022 à 0 h 14
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Dubois would be perfect to mix in that Center ice group, a little weight and down low force, over 3 light centers. But obviously the deal has to be right, and cap has to work. More holes that just that one also, so need to make the cap work along with some stud dman and price replacement.


Light centres? They're all over 200lbs. They are no dubois but by no means are those three light in any way
23 juin 2022 à 0 h 19
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Quoting: jgimp69
By this point, McJesus will be demanding out unless they make a huge splash. Getting Helly would be it.
I think if he was on the block, there would be a lineup of teams making offers. Go check out the NJ Hf board, they are offering up a boatload.


I don't think McDavid will ever leave. He's a hockey nerd and doesn't really seek out the spotlight like Auston Matthews. As long as he doesnt feel slighted, he's going to stay in Edmonton. Look at McDavid's house, white walls all over, he's as vanilla as it comes. He's happy playing sticks and pucks on his heated driveway while eating the same meal at Joeys every day.
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23 juin 2022 à 0 h 21
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Quoting: BigBadBurke
If that's the case, I can't see why the rebuilding habs would trade assets for dubois and make their team better in the short term and miss out on an "absolutely loaded" draft as you called it. They may as well just wait until 2024 and make a push to sign him as a FA. This isn't very well thought up imo


This. If the rumours are true, just wait until his free agency and sign him. The Habs cap situation wouldnt allow them to trade for PLD this offseason without some bad contracts going back to WPG.
23 juin 2022 à 0 h 21
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Dubois would be perfect to mix in that Center ice group, a little weight and down low force, over 3 light centers. But obviously the deal has to be right, and cap has to work. More holes that just that one also, so need to make the cap work along with some stud dman and price replacement.


Dubois weighs the same as suzuki and given the height difference it means dubois is less built.

Dvorak is within 5 pounds so no major gap.

Wright is already within 5 pound hes will be bigger thsn dubois when he fills out.
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23 juin 2022 à 0 h 23
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Quoting: BigBadBurke
Light centres? They're all over 200lbs. They are no dubois but by no means are those three light in any way


Yeah. Wright and Suzuki are both built like Crosby. Massive lower bodies. Nobody calls Crosby small. Definitely a weird comment.
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23 juin 2022 à 0 h 23
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I like Poink how ever I don't think this trade makes sense for either team, value is fine Imho
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23 juin 2022 à 0 h 24
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Quoting: Koskinen_The_Great
I don't think McDavid will ever leave. He's a hockey nerd and doesn't really seek out the spotlight like Auston Matthews. As long as he doesnt feel slighted, he's going to stay in Edmonton. Look at McDavid's house, white walls all over, he's as vanilla as it comes. He's happy playing sticks and pucks on his heated driveway while eating the same meal at Joeys every day.


It’s not so much the Edmonton thing, it’s about being a strong contender year after year. Being a hockey nerd, he will want a cup. Full stop. Getting a goalie of Hellys caliber would contribute to that goal and they would probably have advanced this year.
23 juin 2022 à 0 h 34
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I like Poink how ever I don't think this trade makes sense for either team, value is fine Imho


agreed
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