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Necas Girard

Créé par: vikhodush
Équipe: 2022-23 Hurricanes de la Caroline
Date de création initiale: 21 juin 2022
Publié: 21 juin 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Not sure how I feel about this and probably not realistic but wanted to try something new with assumption that Lebrun isn’t blowing smoke (which I think he is).

Necas rumor makes sense if it’s a true top 4 young D with team control coming back - Girard and Chych fit the bill for me. Not sure how close this deal is so feel free to add what’s needed to balance it. My thought is Avs are making run without Girard and have a lot of decisions to make this summer. Necas bridge would be great for them and he’d likely thrive and bounce back with the skill he’d get to play with. Also saves them some money so can maybe keep a guy they would’ve otherwise lost?

If this were to happen it likely also means tda negotiations aren’t where they want to be so they’d move on from him. Not sure if that value is great but was trying to find potential fits more than get value perfect. Dallas makes sense and pens might too if letang doesn’t come back (I saw they’re in ballpark with him but who knows).

If Canes trade Necas for a D they’d need to address top 6 scoring in UFA. Guys like Forsberg would be fun but doubt Canes want to go 7x9 for him. Thought Burra provides that natural elite goal scoring talent they’re looking for so went with him over a guy like Nuke.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
23 250 000 $
2825 000 $
2825 000 $
2825 000 $
2825 000 $
2825 000 $
2950 000 $
22 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
22 500 000 $
55 750 000 $
34 500 000 $
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1.
COL
  1. Necas, Martin
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (CAR)
Détails additionnels:
Not sure what needs to be added on either side to balance out
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CAR
  1. Kapanen, Kasperi [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (PIT)
PIT
  1. Deangelo, Anthony [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (CHI)
3.
CAR
  1. Choix de 6e ronde en 2023 (ARI)
ARI
  1. Bear, Ethan [Droits de RFA]
  2. Gardiner, Jake
  3. Choix de 7e ronde en 2023 (CAR)
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2382 500 000 $82 363 584 $112 500 $582 500 $136 416 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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7 750 000 $7 750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 7
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8 460 250 $8 460 250 $
C
UFA - 2
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894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
AD
RFA - 2
5 750 000 $5 750 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 5
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4 820 000 $4 820 000 $
C
UFA - 8
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5 400 000 $5 400 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
AD, C, AG
UFA - 4
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 1
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
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839 167 $839 167 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
C
RFA - 2
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925 000 $925 000 $
C
RFA - 2
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 5
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
4 025 000 $4 025 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
825 000 $825 000 $
DD
RFA
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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950 000 $950 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
762 500 $762 500 $
DD
UFA - 2

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21 juin 2022 à 21 h 48
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What is that Pitt trade?
21 juin 2022 à 21 h 48
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Pens pass!
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What is that Pitt trade?


Really not sure on value for tda. Just thought team fit was there if Letang were to leave. What’re your thoughts
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Pens pass!

Value way off? Or did I misread potential fit?
21 juin 2022 à 21 h 52
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Value way off? Or did I misread potential fit?


I dont think we need him if we resign Letang.
21 juin 2022 à 21 h 54
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I dont think we need him if we resign Letang.


Yeah I agree. In description I put this assumed Letang left. I read they’re closer with him than Malkin but still not a done deal. Assuming he left is there a fit?
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21 juin 2022 à 21 h 55
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Yeah I agree. In description I put this assumed Letang left. I read they’re closer with him than Malkin but still not a done deal. Assuming he left is there a fit?


Would prefer Bear I think.
21 juin 2022 à 21 h 57
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Quoting: Marcsnack
Would prefer Bear I think.


Wow really? Curious why you think that.

After seeing both tda is a much better version of Bear imo. Both have defensive deficiencies but TDA can mask his better and while bear has a nice offensive toolkit, tda is another level on that side of ice. Off ice issues are a concern but if you’ve got a veteran leadership and coaching staff I think that can be handled easily.
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Wow really? Curious why you think that.

After seeing both tda is a much better version of Bear imo. Both have defensive deficiencies but TDA can mask his better and while bear has a nice offensive toolkit, tda is another level on that side of ice. Off ice issues are a concern but if you’ve got a veteran leadership and coaching staff I think that can be handled easily.


For sure! I am not sure how Pens feel about his attitude and acquiring him would cost much more... and his AAV will be higher!
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For sure! I am not sure how Pens feel about his attitude and acquiring him would cost much more... and his AAV will be higher!


Yeah definitely. Bear probably costs a third, maybe something else small. He’ll also make half of what tda will if I had to guess.
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ADA reminds me of Evander Kane in a lot of ways both super talented neither can get their head out of their a**
21 juin 2022 à 22 h 3
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Canes pass on Girard. Doesn’t fit here
21 juin 2022 à 22 h 7
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Canes pass on Girard. Doesn’t fit here


Disagree
21 juin 2022 à 22 h 7
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A lot would depend on what a Necas bridge deal was at. But definitely worth considering. One thing is certain though if Girard is moved it would almost be a lock that Manson would be re-signed in COL.
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Disagree


he would be our 3rd LD and a small one at that. Too much for a 3rd LD
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Quoting: Boltsradynasty
ADA reminds me of Evander Kane in a lot of ways both super talented neither can get their head out of their a**

Yeah there’s some similarities there. Tda younger and hopefully learned his lesson. I’d like to keep him but if Lebrun rumor is true and were to happen I feel like they’d move on from him.
21 juin 2022 à 22 h 10
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he would be our 3rd LD and a small one at that. Too much for a 3rd LD

He can play right side with slavin and would be fine. Can also take over for skjei if they wanted to go that route. Trade skjei instead of tda.
21 juin 2022 à 22 h 11
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sorry cant get the evolving hockey image to work, it aint good.
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i was trying to get a evolving hockey picture to show up. it didnt work. sorry
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No one is giving a 1st for Deangelo.
22 juin 2022 à 9 h 5
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No one is giving a 1st for Deangelo.


Idk I don’t think that’s out of the question. Sure there are off ice issues but last year he proved his worth on the ice and stayed clean off of it. Nhl teams have shown in the past that if the talent level is there they’ll give guys multiple chances. A guy who can play on the right side in top 4 and run a PP really well is pretty valuable.
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Think COL would only move Girard this offseason for quite an overpay, so the plus to Necas would need to be significantly more than a second rounder, and CAR's FO isn't into overpaying. If the cost weren't an overpay, it would be for a Girard-esque player (young, proven NHL'er, good contract for years to come) who can be a more reliable 2C than COL's current, non-Kadri options.
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Think COL would only move Girard this offseason for quite an overpay, so the plus to Necas would need to be significantly more than a second rounder, and CAR's FO isn't into overpaying. If the cost weren't an overpay, it would be for a Girard-esque player (young, proven NHL'er, good contract for years to come) who can be a more reliable 2C than COL's current, non-Kadri options.


Yep - that's fair. Girard on his contract is super valuable so understand why it would require an overpay. This was more driven off of Lebrun's report and me trying to brainstorm who those young D could be that moved the needle if we were to trade Necas.

Trade aside - Necas in COL system with their skill & speed would probably be amazing. I'd hate to lose him because I think he probably thrives wherever he ends up going but that would be something to see. Think he fits their system perfectly.
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Yep - that's fair. Girard on his contract is super valuable so understand why it would require an overpay. This was more driven off of Lebrun's report and me trying to brainstorm who those young D could be that moved the needle if we were to trade Necas.

Trade aside - Necas in COL system with their skill & speed would probably be amazing. I'd hate to lose him because I think he probably thrives wherever he ends up going but that would be something to see. Think he fits their system perfectly.


Sometimes it can make sense to overpay, esp. for contenders - Tampa for Goodrow, Coleman, Hagel; COL for Kuemper (if he can get it back together for the rest of the scf). Not sure tho, if/when CAR will do so ... wonder tho if it might make sense so for a goal-scorer this offseason ...

Brannstrom or Ty Smith could be a buy low PMD candidates for CAR, tho maybe they'd want someone proven at this stage of contention window.
EDIT - these wouldn't be for Necas - more underperforming young defense that i could see CAR buying low on

Necas (and Gurianov, Comtois) might look great in COL's system - but the team doesn't really have the trade chips for under performing former bluechippers that they used to have ...
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