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Blues 23

Créé par: jordanarkle
Date de création initiale: 21 juin 2022
Publié: 21 juin 2022
Équipe: 2022-23 Blues de St-Louis
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RFAANSCAP HIT
Perunovich, Scott2978 000 $
Zadina, Filip11 230 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Perron, David24 000 000 $
Lyubushkin, Ilya1810 900 $
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STL
  1. Chychrun, Jakob
  2. 2024 7e round pick (BOS)
ARI
  1. Kostin, Klim [Droits de RFA]
  2. Brown, Logan
  3. 2022 1e round pick (STL)
  4. 2024 2e round pick (STL)
  5. 2022 3e round pick (STL)
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STL
  1. 2022 5e round pick (PIT)
PIT
  1. Scandella, Marco
  2. 2023 7e round pick (STL)
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STL
  1. Zadina, Filip [Droits de RFA]
DET
  1. Bortuzzo, Robert
  2. 2023 3e round pick (STL)
  3. 2024 3e round pick (STL)
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Buchnevich, Pavel
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Thomas, Robert
2 800 000 $
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Tarasenko, Vladimir
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Perron, David
4 000 000 $
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O'Reilly, Ryan
7 500 000 $
C
UFA - 1
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Kyrou, Jordan
2 800 000 $
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UFA - 1
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Neighbours, Jake
835 833 $
AG
RFA - 3
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Schenn, Brayden
6 500 000 $
C, AG
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UFA - 6
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Toropchenko, Alexey
750 000 $
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Saad, Brandon
4 500 000 $
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Barbashev, Ivan
2 250 000 $
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UFA - 1
Zadina, Filip
1 230 000 $
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RFA - 3
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Chychrun, Jakob
4 600 000 $
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UFA - 3
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Faulk, Justin
6 500 000 $
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Binnington, Jordan
6 000 000 $
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Krug, Torey
6 500 000 $
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UFA - 5
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Parayko, Colton
6 500 000 $
DD
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UFA - 8
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Hofer, Joel
795 000 $
G
RFA - 1
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Perunovich, Scott
978 000 $
DG
RFA - 1
Lyubushkin, Ilya
810 900 $
DD
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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Walker, Nathan
750 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
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Rosén, Calle
762 500 $
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21 juin à 20 h 40
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Now what’s your actual offer for Chychrun?
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21 juin à 20 h 42
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Quoting: jwg314
Now what’s your actual offer for Chychrun?


something along the lines of a top prospect, a first and maybe a few other picks
21 juin à 20 h 45
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Wings decline.

I'd rather be patient with Zadina. A couple 3rd round picks isn't enough to give up on him.
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21 juin à 20 h 52
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Quoting: zadinaveleno
Wings decline.

I'd rather be patient with Zadina. A couple 3rd round picks isn't enough to give up on him.


hes done nothing, he had an awful year, stop overratin and pricing guys that u liked when they got drafted.
21 juin à 21 h 0
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That’s a hell no from Pitt
21 juin à 21 h 4
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Quoting: jordanarkle
hes done nothing, he had an awful year, stop overratin and pricing guys that u liked when they got drafted.


Brother, you’re not understanding. We would rather Zadina retires tomorrow and picks up professional curling before we give him away for a couple middle round picks and a geezer.

We don’t care what he did or didn’t do up to this point. You don’t get to recoup what we got from you on Leddy.
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21 juin à 21 h 7
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Btw, I mean this with all due respect and seriousness; if STL’s GM had any sense, he’d tear down that team now while the veterans over there still have value. Perfect time to rebuild with two solid draft classes back to back.

This STL team is aging and going nowhere with this current group of players and does not have much to look forward by way of future prospects currently in the pipeline.
21 juin à 21 h 8
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I don’t like it, really at all. The trades, AZ det, and Pitt say no of course. The lines I don’t like but that’s a minor issue, and imo hofer isn’t close to nhl ready yet
21 juin à 21 h 9
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as a Blues fan, I'm here to watch Wings fans throw havoc your way. Detroit asks at least a 2nd round pick, if not a 1st. Bortuzzo isn't wanted by Detroit. Not sure anyone wants a 7D tbh. Scandella costs more to trade. Blues won't move Logan he's worth keeping on the fourth line. I also think Arizona would ask more. Especially when Armstrong said he wants Eichel like ask for Chychrun. Rumor mills says Kyrou, Perunovich, 1st and Kostin. I don't think I would ever trade that for Chych in a million years.
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21 juin à 21 h 10
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Quoting: IDKtbh
Btw, I mean this with all due respect and seriousness; if STL’s GM had any sense, he’d tear down that team now while the veterans over there still have value. Perfect time to rebuild with two solid draft classes back to back.

This STL team is aging and going nowhere with this current group of players and does not have much to look forward by way of future prospects currently in the pipeline.


Lmao, that’s way off the mark. When is the last time STL was in a rebuild? The blues are the second best in the west by a large large margin, only COL is better and of the blues were fully healthy could’ve won that series. All they need is a solid top 4 LD and they could very well be the best in the west depending on what COL loses this off-season.
Your take on the team is wildly off
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21 juin à 21 h 10
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Quoting: jordanarkle
hes done nothing, he had an awful year, stop overratin and pricing guys that u liked when they got drafted.


just because he's done nothing doesn't mean he won't. We basically had people saying the same about Kyrou and look what happened took about 3-4 years. It was the same for a lot of other guys exp. Lafreniere last season, Kaapo Kakko last season and the year before.
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21 juin à 21 h 16
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Quoting: IDKtbh
Btw, I mean this with all due respect and seriousness; if STL’s GM had any sense, he’d tear down that team now while the veterans over there still have value. Perfect time to rebuild with two solid draft classes back to back.

This STL team is aging and going nowhere with this current group of players and does not have much to look forward by way of future prospects currently in the pipeline.


it's really not that old. Only guys really old is Senko, O'Reilly, Perron, and Schenn that's about it. Kyrou Thomas Neighbours Bolduc Barbashev Joshua Brown Toropchenko Alexandrov Saad Buchnevich Kostin

even our defense is pretty young.
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Quoting: jordanarkle
hes done nothing, he had an awful year, stop overratin and pricing guys that u liked when they got drafted.


Way to completely miss my point, congrats.

I know he's done nothing, I watch every Wings game, my point was that I would rather be patient with him and give him another season than trade him for mid round picks. I'm really not sure why that was so hard to understand...
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21 juin à 21 h 21
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Quoting: IDKtbh
Btw, I mean this with all due respect and seriousness; if STL’s GM had any sense, he’d tear down that team now while the veterans over there still have value. Perfect time to rebuild with two solid draft classes back to back.

This STL team is aging and going nowhere with this current group of players and does not have much to look forward by way of future prospects currently in the pipeline.


This is a pretty bad take. Most of the Blues players are coming off career seasons and no one has started to regress yet. We lose nothing in the off-season and are really just a 4LD away from true contention. We also have a few high quality prospects ready to step in in the next year or so.
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21 juin à 21 h 50
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Quoting: xercuses
Lmao, that’s way off the mark. When is the last time STL was in a rebuild? The blues are the second best in the west by a large large margin, only COL is better and of the blues were fully healthy could’ve won that series. All they need is a solid top 4 LD and they could very well be the best in the west depending on what COL loses this off-season.
Your take on the team is wildly off


Quoting: Shylo_Moxii
it's really not that old. Only guys really old is Senko, O'Reilly, Perron, and Schenn that's about it. Kyrou Thomas Neighbours Bolduc Barbashev Joshua Brown Toropchenko Alexandrov Saad Buchnevich Kostin

even our defense is pretty young.


Quoting: jwg314
This is a pretty bad take. Most of the Blues players are coming off career seasons and no one has started to regress yet. We lose nothing in the off-season and are really just a 4LD away from true contention. We also have a few high quality prospects ready to step in in the next year or so.


I’m by no means saying STL is anywhere near a bad team. I just think they’re going to make the playoffs for the next 2 to 3 years and not much else. The Stanley cup you guys won was a flash in the pan. It’s not going to happen again with this core group.

Do you guys think you have a Stanley Cup team ?
21 juin à 21 h 52
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I’m by no means saying STL is anywhere near a bad team. I just think they’re going to make the playoffs for the next 2 to 3 years and not much else. The Stanley cup you guys won was a flash in the pan. It’s not going to happen again with this core group.

Do you guys think you have a Stanley Cup team ?


For this next season, yes I think we will. A lot of big decisions to make next Summer.
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21 juin à 21 h 54
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For this next season, yes I think we will. A lot of big decisions to make next Summer.


Lol, enjoy the season. Blues will probably open up the year +1500 to win the cup or worse. It ain’t happenin’. But maybe throw a $100 on a sportsbook if you’re feeling confident
21 juin à 22 h 24
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I’m by no means saying STL is anywhere near a bad team. I just think they’re going to make the playoffs for the next 2 to 3 years and not much else. The Stanley cup you guys won was a flash in the pan. It’s not going to happen again with this core group.

Do you guys think you have a Stanley Cup team ?


with this team right here. If we can get solidified 2nd Pairing, and a solid backup goaltender I do. So far us and tampa are the only teams who beat Colorado, and even then. If it was conference based Minnesota St.Louis Colorado was the top 3 teams in the conference. And it hasn't changed much outside of maybe a player coming in and growing. O'Reilly was shutting down MacKinnon. So I do believe we could have chance if Goaltending and defense got better.
21 juin à 22 h 40
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Quoting: Shylo_Moxii
with this team right here. If we can get solidified 2nd Pairing, and a solid backup goaltender I do. So far us and tampa are the only teams who beat Colorado, and even then. If it was conference based Minnesota St.Louis Colorado was the top 3 teams in the conference. And it hasn't changed much outside of maybe a player coming in and growing. O'Reilly was shutting down MacKinnon. So I do believe we could have chance if Goaltending and defense got better.

I actually just looked at STL stats from last year and I did not realize Buchnevich & Barbashev had that good of a year and you guys had 9 players score 20+ goals which is pretty unheard of.

With that being said, my opinion of the team changes marginally due to a slight oversight, but I still don’t think that’s a championship team.

If Binnington stands on his head next year, that could change things. And my man that made this post was right on the money with that Chychrun trade. That would def help.

By the way, I checked the current Stanley Cup odds for next year and they’ve got STL at +1600.
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21 juin à 22 h 42
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Quoting: Shylo_Moxii
with this team right here. If we can get solidified 2nd Pairing, and a solid backup goaltender I do. So far us and tampa are the only teams who beat Colorado, and even then. If it was conference based Minnesota St.Louis Colorado was the top 3 teams in the conference. And it hasn't changed much outside of maybe a player coming in and growing. O'Reilly was shutting down MacKinnon. So I do believe we could have chance if Goaltending and defense got better.

From an unbiased, outside perspective, I think St. Louis is still a threat. They pushed Colorado harder than anyone else this year and Colorado looks poised to win it all.

One difference of opinion though - backup goaltending isn't the problem. I think you guys need to send Binnington packing and overhaul the crease entirely if you can't re-sign Husso. I actually think Varlamov would do great in St. Louis.
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21 juin à 23 h 5
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Quoting: DeadWingsv2
From an unbiased, outside perspective, I think St. Louis is still a threat. They pushed Colorado harder than anyone else this year and Colorado looks poised to win it all.

One difference of opinion though - backup goaltending isn't the problem. I think you guys need to send Binnington packing and overhaul the crease entirely if you can't re-sign Husso. I actually think Varlamov would do great in St. Louis.


Binnington showed in playoffs why he earned his contract. I think we need a backup for now. Hofer will be our future goaltender, but as of right now he is a bit of an uncertainty. And I agree Binnington played bad and if he doesn't show up the way he did in playoffs I don't think we do have a chance.
22 juin à 14 h 41
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Quoting: IDKtbh
I’m by no means saying STL is anywhere near a bad team. I just think they’re going to make the playoffs for the next 2 to 3 years and not much else. The Stanley cup you guys won was a flash in the pan. It’s not going to happen again with this core group.

Do you guys think you have a Stanley Cup team ?


Blues had a good chance of taking the series from colorado, we exceeded all expectations and were one of the best teams in the league, qith some elite prospects too
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