Not implying that but a more respectful forum than other places. Your comment was inflammatory and not needed.

yes there is ... Sanderson and the 7ov.

They don't want to move on from him. The reason he's in the rumor mill is because he's their best asset to get the picks back that were lost by Bowman. He is still young, will still be an effective goal scorer when the rebuild is likely to be over, and he's still a restricted agent. It's likely 20million will come off the books next year, so the cost isn't an issue for the hawks. The hawks are likely to be looking for at least 2 firsts (the 7th overall isn't really that big of a deal in this draft), a prospect and an NHL ready player. This offer likely dons't beat what other teams would offer. And again, if this offer was the best bid presented, it's likely the hawks would just wait till the deadline, or just sign Cat and keep him for the long term.

the 7th overall pick, 2 first round prospects, an unprotected pick from a rebuilding team and basically another first round pick on top of that (Brown's probable deadline return) for Debrincat is hilarious. Debrincat is sick but when is the last time you saw a return like that for any player

Like i said, there is literally nothing that Ottawa **would realistically offer**.

Sanderson alone would never happen

Is it though?

Ottawa has been the butt end of cheap and money jokes for YEARS because of Melnyk. Let's all laugh a little once in a while.

It's a hypothetical. What the hawks want and what they are offered could be two different things. Different scenario obviously but sens traded a top 5 RW in the league with an extension and got back Erik Brännström and a 2nd after a year of saying "other teams will offer something better"

I think it's good value for Debrincat, maybe instead of Grieg they want Boucher and another pick

Don't know why Ottawa would do the MTL trade

Florida just hangs up

Every non-Ottawa team says no.



Its been reported that Montreal was discussing White, that doesn't mean your proposal makes sense regarding their stated goals or needs.

I also don't think his contract is one you can live with or easily move. His value in this moment is that you can buy out his contract at 1/3 instead of 2/3rds this year. Montreal wouldn't be making a move like that if they were taking White.

Valid point. I have seen those comments. I don’t ascribe to them and I know the French as super sensitive to language, so I just stay clear of that.

Greig is 10x more valuable than Boucher so I'd do that all day

Different scenario. Stone was leaving regardless because he wanted to win. He was also a UFA.

Cat is an RFA, a legit 40 goal scorer and will be playing with Stu for years. Picks and prospects are picks and prospects. They are mystery boxes until they get that shot. I think Greig has the potential to be a Brad Marchand 2.0. I think Thomson is going to be a top 4 D man. That 7th overall is going to be a good hockey player... just not right now.

Different scenarios exactly. The Hawks also just traded a mid-6 forward at the deadline for two firsts and a bottom 6 and a mid-6. The hawks had something similar with Sharp, waiting for someone to offer something better. The difference is they needed to move on from Sharp, there is no need/want to move Debrincat other than getting a large return, if they don't get that, Debrincat is still highly valuable to the Hawks, they'll happily keep him.

IE, to get Debrincat, you'll need to present an offer that is greater than what the Hawks value Debrincat at, which is fairly high.

To a certain extent. Some french speakers are a little bit more aggressive and proud of their french heritage and language. Which is their right... I meant no offense to the joke. I'll keep it to hockey from now on.

Source: I am a bilingual Franco-Ontarian.

Jokes aside it's no secret Montreal likes to acquire French-Canadian players. And I don't blame them, it's awesome when they do

I would agree but it sounds like Debrincat is likely to get traded at this point and I just don't see them getting a blow your socks off kind of return. Teams don't like giving away the farm like that. Giving away the 7th pick and Greig is already a tough pill to swallow but definitely worth it for debrincat. Look at the return Eichel got

At the detriment to the on ice-play, yeah. What a strange in-house rule to have. Kind of like the in-house budgets we have in Ottawa. I'm glad they went with Kent Hughes. Dude seems to know his stuff when it comes to hockey.

Eichel situation was also an organizational mess from top to bottom. Eichel wasn't going to play without the surgery he wanted/needed. There were talks of terminating his contract and I don't blame Eichel at all for what he went through in Buffalo.

Florida will want more. Brown is an excellent 2-way 2nd liner (in terms of production) but Weegar is an excellent 2-way top pairing D-man

I really can't see Jonathan Drouin still being a Sens target. I'd rather have Guenette who is a decent prospect who will play in the NHL (question is how long?) and that 2nd. Just buy out Colin Whitet if the goal is to get rid of his salary. Although, this is Jo's last year on his contract so I could be tempted to do that

The Chicago trade is tricky. I want to do it but at the same time I am very reluctant in trading Greig at all. I would be ready to give up the Sens 1st in 2023 and a prospect like jarventie/Sokolov instead of giving up Greig



Agreed but keep in mind that not a lot of people know who Ridly Greig is. I had to convince my fellow Sens fans last summer (when we were ranking the pool) that he was the Sens 3rd best prospect (after Sanderson and Pinto). It took some time and the season to play out but people are getting convince. Pronman ranked him as the 18th best NHL prospect in his last list.

Nobody should. It's exactly like when Dallas wouldn't trade Heiskanen for Erik freaking Karlsson



7th OA + Jake Sanderson?

A problem you might have is thinking that Ridly Greig and Erik Brannstrom have anywhere near the same value. This isn't 2020 anymore.



Misinformation. And Brannstrom played an average of 19:46 last season.



That's more a package for Kane during his prime

7th OA : worth more than a regular "1st"
Greig : easily worth a top-10 pick to the Sens. You instantly turn it down if someone offers you less value for him
Thomson/JBD : worth another first
UNPROTECTED first next year : a shot at Bedard/Michkov if the Sens miss the playoffs? (still likely), also worth a lot
Connor Brown half retained is easily worth a 1st + 2nd at the deadline

This is a CRAZY package, that's 5 firsts and a 2nd with 2 of the first round picks being top-10 worthy. That's a LOT more than what Eichel returned



Eric Lindros.

I think Florida would trade away Weegar this offseason, but no way are they taking that deal.