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Équipe: 2022-23 Sénateurs d'Ottawa
Date de création initiale: 21 juin 2022
Publié: 21 juin 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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Instant playoff team
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RFAANSCAP HIT
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CHI
  1. Brännström, Erik [Droits de RFA]
  2. Greig, Ridly
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (OTT)
Détails additionnels:
7th Overall
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  1. Guénette, Maxence
  2. White, Colin
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (TBL)
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OTT
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  1. Zaitsev, Nikita
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (BOS)
  3. Choix de 5e ronde en 2022 (WPG)
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  1. Brown, Connor (1 800 000 $ retained)
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21 juin 2022 à 11 h 15
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Usually most posts with this title lead to almost everyone saying no
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21 juin 2022 à 11 h 16
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hawks say no, they can get a better offer for DeBrincat
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21 juin 2022 à 11 h 17
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Florida definitely says no.

Arizona says give us a higher picks.

MTL says not French enough.

Chicago asks for Sanderson.
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21 juin 2022 à 11 h 17
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Quoting: hawksfan1988
hawks say no, they can get a better offer for DeBrincat


I think it will be hard to get more than that
21 juin 2022 à 11 h 18
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Usually most posts with this title lead to almost everyone saying no


You're a prophet Canaiac555!
21 juin 2022 à 11 h 18
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Florida definitely says no.

Arizona says give us a higher picks.

MTL says not French enough.

Chicago asks for Sanderson.


What if White changed his name to "Blanc"?
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21 juin 2022 à 11 h 20
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I think it will be hard to get more than that


Then they'll happily keep him.
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21 juin 2022 à 11 h 20
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What if White changed his name to "Blanc"?


BAHAHAHAH!
21 juin 2022 à 11 h 20
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Quoting: Green4D4
Florida definitely says no.

Arizona says give us a higher picks.

MTL says not French enough.

Chicago asks for Sanderson.


Chicago doesn’t get Sanderson
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21 juin 2022 à 11 h 21
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I think it will be hard to get more than that


Then the Hawks won't move him. There's no need for the Hawks to trade Debrincat short of getting a boatload of picks for him, and the only way they'll trade him is if they're blown away by an offer ala Hagel.
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21 juin 2022 à 11 h 22
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Chicago doesn’t get Sanderson


Correct. That's why a trade to Ottawa is slim to none.
21 juin 2022 à 11 h 22
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Chicago doesn’t get Sanderson


No one gets Sanderson but Zub
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21 juin 2022 à 11 h 23
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Hawks ask for Sanderson instead of Brannstrom or Greig or Pinto instead of Greig as the base of the trade or they aren't interested. The #7OA is in a very weak top 15 this year so it doesn't really move the needle like it would in a typical year.

It's widely reported what Chicago wants according to The Athletic which is probably the most reliable source in the NHL; https://hockeyroyalty.com/2022/06/20/blackhawks-reveal-asking-price-for-forward-alex-debrincat/
21 juin 2022 à 11 h 23
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I think it will be hard to get more than that


I think NJ if they know they can't sign Gaudreau can offer a better prospect and the number 2 overall.
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21 juin 2022 à 11 h 24
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Then the Hawks won't move him. There's no need for the Hawks to trade Debrincat short of getting a boatload of picks for him, and the only way they'll trade him is if they're blown away by an offer ala Hagel.


Quoting: Green4D4
Correct. That's why a trade to Ottawa is slim to none.


If they wanted to trade him though to move on or whatever, the 7th overall pick and 2 first round prospects wouldn't be the worst return ever
21 juin 2022 à 11 h 25
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I think that Montreal would pass, we want to move Drouin but not for White who's contract is 2 years longer at just 750k less and the 2nd does not cover the difference. If we need to we can literally do a Bishop type of move with Drouin
21 juin 2022 à 11 h 29
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Quoting: Campabee
I think that Montreal would pass, we want to move Drouin but not for White who's contract is 2 years longer at just 750k less and the 2nd does not cover the difference. If we need to we can literally do a Bishop type of move with Drouin


It sounded at the Deadline like MTL was interested in White. Is he overpaid? Absolutely. But he could still be an effective top 9 player and it's a contract you can live with and easily move if needed. Ottawa may need to add more but it's not far
21 juin 2022 à 11 h 29
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Quoting: Green4D4
Florida definitely says no.

Arizona says give us a higher picks.

MTL says not French enough.

Chicago asks for Sanderson.


Your comment about the reasons why Montreal is cheap and sad to see on capfriendly. Reddit has comments like that.
21 juin 2022 à 11 h 30
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If they wanted to trade him though to move on or whatever, the 7th overall pick and 2 first round prospects wouldn't be the worst return ever


Brannstrom can't play regular minutes with a bad Ottawa team, why would he be a good prospect for Chicago who's rebuilding to pickup?
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21 juin 2022 à 11 h 32
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No one gets Sanderson but Zub


Zub.
21 juin 2022 à 11 h 33
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It sounded at the Deadline like MTL was interested in White. Is he overpaid? Absolutely. But he could still be an effective top 9 player and it's a contract you can live with and easily move if needed. Ottawa may need to add more but it's not far


The problem with the deadline and now though is that, we won the 1st OVA pick and are most likely adding Wright. That pretty well removes any interest Montreal had back then. We are actually reportedly looking to move Dvorak so acquiring another center is unlikely rn.
21 juin 2022 à 11 h 33
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Brannstrom can't play regular minutes with a bad Ottawa team, why would he be a good prospect for Chicago who's rebuilding to pickup?


The main pieces of the deal are the 7th and Greig who is a really good prospect but Brannstrom still has some potential to be good. Doesn't hurt to throw him in
21 juin 2022 à 11 h 33
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Your comment about the reasons why Montreal is cheap and sad to see on capfriendly. Reddit has comments like that.


Because CapFriendly is the pinnacle of internet comments.
21 juin 2022 à 11 h 34
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There's literally nothing that Ottawa (or any team really) would realistically offer that would have chicago fans say "chicago says yes".

To Hawks fans: the chances that you will be happy with the Debrincat return are dismal.

7th overall plus greig is at least a good starting point. Might cost Ottawa their 2023 pick though
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21 juin 2022 à 11 h 35
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The main pieces of the deal are the 7th and Greig who is a really good prospect but Brannstrom still has some potential to be good. Doesn't hurt to throw him in


The way I look at it, they need to recoup assets from the Jones deal.

The 7th overall, Greig, Thomson/JBD and an unprotected 1st next year is a good start. I would throw in Connor Brown at half retained if they want to move him at the TDL for more assets.
 
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