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Who says no

Créé par: Melnyk_0ut
Date de création initiale: 21 juin 2022
Publié: 21 juin 2022
Équipe: 2022-23 Sénateurs d'Ottawa
Explications
Instant playoff team
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Formenton, Alex22 900 000 $
Gaudette, Adam11 000 000 $
Joseph, Mathieu43 000 000 $
Norris, Joshua77 750 000 $
Transactions
1.
OTT
  1. DeBrincat, Alex
CHI
  1. Greig, Ridly
  2. Brännström, Erik [Droits de RFA]
  3. 2022 1e round pick (OTT)
Détails additionnels:
7th Overall
2.
OTT
  1. Drouin, Jonathan
MTL
  1. White, Colin
  2. Guénette, Maxence
  3. 2022 2e round pick (TBL)
3.
OTT
    ARI
    1. Zaitsev, Nikita
    2. 2022 3e round pick (BOS)
    3. 2022 5e round pick (WPG)
    4.
    OTT
    1. Weegar, MacKenzie
    FLA
    1. Brown, Connor (1 800 000 $ retained)
    Rachats de contrats
    • Bobby Ryan: 1 833 333 $
    • Dion Phaneuf: 354 167 $
    Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
    • Connor Brown: 1 800 000 $ (50%)
    • Matt Murray: 1 562 500 $ (25%)
    ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
    2022
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    2023
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    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2482 500 000 $80 293 214 $0 $4 025 000 $2 206 786 $

    Formation

    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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    Tkachuk, Brady
    8 205 714 $
    AG, C
    UFA - 6
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    Norris, Joshua
    7 750 000 $
    C
    UFA - 8
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    Batherson, Drake
    4 975 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 5
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    Drouin, Jonathan
    5 500 000 $
    AG, AD, C
    NTC
    UFA - 1
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    Stützle, Tim
    925 000 $
    AG, C
    RFA - 1
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    DeBrincat, Alex
    6 400 000 $
    AG, AD
    RFA - 1
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    Formenton, Alex
    2 900 000 $
    AG
    RFA
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    Pinto, Shane
    925 000 $
    C
    RFA - 1
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    Joseph, Mathieu
    3 000 000 $
    C, AG, AD
    UFA - 4
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    Kelly, Parker
    762 500 $
    C, AG
    RFA - 2
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    Gambrell, Dylan
    950 000 $
    C
    RFA - 1
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    Watson, Austin
    1 500 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 1
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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    Chabot, Thomas
    8 000 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 6
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    Weegar, MacKenzie
    3 250 000 $
    DG/DD
    UFA - 1
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    Forsberg, Anton
    2 750 000 $
    G
    UFA - 3
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    Sanderson, Jake
    925 000 $
    DG
    RFA - 2
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    Zub, Artem
    2 500 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 1
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    Murray, Matt
    4 687 500 $
    G
    NTC
    UFA - 2
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    Holden, Nick
    1 300 000 $
    DG
    NTC
    UFA - 1
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    Hamonic, Travis
    3 000 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 1
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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    Gaudette, Adam
    1 000 000 $
    C, AD
    RFA - 1
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    Del Zotto, Michael
    2 000 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 1
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    Del Zotto, Michael
    750 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 1
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    Gustavsson, Filip
    787 500 $
    G
    RFA - 1

    Unités spéciales

    Avantage numérique 1
    Batherson, D.
    Tkachuk, B.
    Norris, J.
    Chabot, T.
    DeBrincat, A.
    Avantage numérique 2
    Stützle, T.
    Pinto, S.
    Drouin, J.
    , .
    Sanderson, J.
    Infériorité numérique 1
    Pinto, S.
    Formenton, A.
    Holden, N.
    Zub, A.
    Infériorité numérique 2
    Gambrell, D.
    Watson, A.
    Sanderson, J.
    Hamonic, T.

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    21 juin à 11 h 15
    #1
    Hurricane Waddell
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    Usually most posts with this title lead to almost everyone saying no
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    21 juin à 11 h 16
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    hawks say no, they can get a better offer for DeBrincat
    jance, SociallyHawkward, ChiHawk and 1 other person a aimé ceci.
    21 juin à 11 h 17
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    Florida definitely says no.

    Arizona says give us a higher picks.

    MTL says not French enough.

    Chicago asks for Sanderson.
    ChiHawk et vikhodush a aimé ceci.
    21 juin à 11 h 17
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    Quoting: hawksfan1988
    hawks say no, they can get a better offer for DeBrincat


    I think it will be hard to get more than that
    21 juin à 11 h 18
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    Quoting: Caniac555
    Usually most posts with this title lead to almost everyone saying no


    You're a prophet Canaiac555!
    21 juin à 11 h 18
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    Quoting: Green4D4
    Florida definitely says no.

    Arizona says give us a higher picks.

    MTL says not French enough.

    Chicago asks for Sanderson.


    What if White changed his name to "Blanc"?
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    21 juin à 11 h 20
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    Quoting: Melnyk_0ut
    I think it will be hard to get more than that


    Then they'll happily keep him.
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    21 juin à 11 h 20
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    Quoting: Melnyk_0ut
    What if White changed his name to "Blanc"?


    BAHAHAHAH!
    21 juin à 11 h 20
    #9
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    Quoting: Green4D4
    Florida definitely says no.

    Arizona says give us a higher picks.

    MTL says not French enough.

    Chicago asks for Sanderson.


    Chicago doesn’t get Sanderson
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    21 juin à 11 h 21
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    Quoting: Melnyk_0ut
    I think it will be hard to get more than that


    Then the Hawks won't move him. There's no need for the Hawks to trade Debrincat short of getting a boatload of picks for him, and the only way they'll trade him is if they're blown away by an offer ala Hagel.
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    21 juin à 11 h 22
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    Chicago doesn’t get Sanderson


    Correct. That's why a trade to Ottawa is slim to none.
    21 juin à 11 h 22
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    Quoting: csick
    Chicago doesn’t get Sanderson


    No one gets Sanderson but Zub
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    21 juin à 11 h 23
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    Modifié 21 juin à 11 h 35
    Hawks ask for Sanderson instead of Brannstrom or Greig or Pinto instead of Greig as the base of the trade or they aren't interested. The #7OA is in a very weak top 15 this year so it doesn't really move the needle like it would in a typical year.

    It's widely reported what Chicago wants according to The Athletic which is probably the most reliable source in the NHL; https://hockeyroyalty.com/2022/06/20/blackhawks-reveal-asking-price-for-forward-alex-debrincat/
    21 juin à 11 h 23
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    Quoting: Melnyk_0ut
    I think it will be hard to get more than that


    I think NJ if they know they can't sign Gaudreau can offer a better prospect and the number 2 overall.
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    21 juin à 11 h 24
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    Quoting: jance
    Then the Hawks won't move him. There's no need for the Hawks to trade Debrincat short of getting a boatload of picks for him, and the only way they'll trade him is if they're blown away by an offer ala Hagel.


    Quoting: Green4D4
    Correct. That's why a trade to Ottawa is slim to none.


    If they wanted to trade him though to move on or whatever, the 7th overall pick and 2 first round prospects wouldn't be the worst return ever
    21 juin à 11 h 25
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    I think that Montreal would pass, we want to move Drouin but not for White who's contract is 2 years longer at just 750k less and the 2nd does not cover the difference. If we need to we can literally do a Bishop type of move with Drouin
    21 juin à 11 h 29
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    Quoting: Campabee
    I think that Montreal would pass, we want to move Drouin but not for White who's contract is 2 years longer at just 750k less and the 2nd does not cover the difference. If we need to we can literally do a Bishop type of move with Drouin


    It sounded at the Deadline like MTL was interested in White. Is he overpaid? Absolutely. But he could still be an effective top 9 player and it's a contract you can live with and easily move if needed. Ottawa may need to add more but it's not far
    21 juin à 11 h 29
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    Quoting: Green4D4
    Florida definitely says no.

    Arizona says give us a higher picks.

    MTL says not French enough.

    Chicago asks for Sanderson.


    Your comment about the reasons why Montreal is cheap and sad to see on capfriendly. Reddit has comments like that.
    21 juin à 11 h 30
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    Quoting: Melnyk_0ut
    If they wanted to trade him though to move on or whatever, the 7th overall pick and 2 first round prospects wouldn't be the worst return ever


    Brannstrom can't play regular minutes with a bad Ottawa team, why would he be a good prospect for Chicago who's rebuilding to pickup?
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    21 juin à 11 h 32
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    Quoting: Melnyk_0ut
    No one gets Sanderson but Zub


    Zub.
    21 juin à 11 h 33
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    Quoting: Melnyk_0ut
    It sounded at the Deadline like MTL was interested in White. Is he overpaid? Absolutely. But he could still be an effective top 9 player and it's a contract you can live with and easily move if needed. Ottawa may need to add more but it's not far


    The problem with the deadline and now though is that, we won the 1st OVA pick and are most likely adding Wright. That pretty well removes any interest Montreal had back then. We are actually reportedly looking to move Dvorak so acquiring another center is unlikely rn.
    21 juin à 11 h 33
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    Quoting: hawksfan1988
    Brannstrom can't play regular minutes with a bad Ottawa team, why would he be a good prospect for Chicago who's rebuilding to pickup?


    The main pieces of the deal are the 7th and Greig who is a really good prospect but Brannstrom still has some potential to be good. Doesn't hurt to throw him in
    21 juin à 11 h 33
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    Quoting: Habs4ever
    Your comment about the reasons why Montreal is cheap and sad to see on capfriendly. Reddit has comments like that.


    Because CapFriendly is the pinnacle of internet comments.
    21 juin à 11 h 34
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    There's literally nothing that Ottawa (or any team really) would realistically offer that would have chicago fans say "chicago says yes".

    To Hawks fans: the chances that you will be happy with the Debrincat return are dismal.

    7th overall plus greig is at least a good starting point. Might cost Ottawa their 2023 pick though
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    21 juin à 11 h 35
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    Quoting: Melnyk_0ut
    The main pieces of the deal are the 7th and Greig who is a really good prospect but Brannstrom still has some potential to be good. Doesn't hurt to throw him in


    The way I look at it, they need to recoup assets from the Jones deal.

    The 7th overall, Greig, Thomson/JBD and an unprotected 1st next year is a good start. I would throw in Connor Brown at half retained if they want to move him at the TDL for more assets.
     
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