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Équipe: 2022-23 Ducks d'Anaheim
Date de création initiale: 21 juin 2022
Publié: 21 juin 2022
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  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2022 (ARI)
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First order of business is taking Grant away from Eakins so he can stop playing him in the top 6

We need to take as many possible bad decisions out of Eakins hands as possible

Any team that needs a 4th line boost for a low pick will do
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  1. Lucic, Milan
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (CGY)
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This was a trade discussed with a Flames fan, not sure if Lucic has ANA on his 8 team no-trade list or not but for the sake of this ACGM lets say he waives
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  1. Bear, Ethan [Droits de RFA]
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Seems like Bear may be non-qualified with CAR allowing him to discuss contracts with other teams, worth a shot for the RD needy Ducks
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  1. Puljujärvi, Jesse [Droits de RFA]
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  1. Comtois, Maxime
  2. Shattenkirk, Kevin (1 950 000 $ retained)
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Not sure how this one will go over, both with Oiler fans and my fellow Ducks fans, dont flame me too hard for this one, its more of a value finding mission
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    21 juin 2022 à 10 h 6
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    Ideas are all positive and well within the realm of reason given the premises.
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    21 juin 2022 à 10 h 7
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    Quoting: OldNYIfan
    Ideas are all positive and well within the realm of reason given the premises.


    Thoughts on the Comtois-JP trade? value wise
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    21 juin 2022 à 10 h 8
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    I like it overall but I think I would be a little uneasy signing Nichushkin to a big deal like that since he only has the 1 year of production

    I’d be happy with the Lucic deal if we had to buy him out even

    Lastly and as always, I don’t want to deal Comtois for really anything! Love the guy and want to see him with Z and Troy Terry
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    21 juin 2022 à 10 h 12
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    I like it overall but I think I would be a little uneasy signing Nichushkin to a big deal like that since he only has the 1 year of production

    I’d be happy with the Lucic deal if we had to buy him out even

    Lastly and as always, I don’t want to deal Comtois for really anything! Love the guy and want to see him with Z and Troy Terry


    Every game I watch him play I want us to sign him more and more, to me Nichushkin is the perfect compliment to Z and Terry

    I dont see the need in buying him out unless thats the condition of him waving, I think he still has a place in SoCal from his Kings days so it might be enticing to him. Could provide that toughness we will be addressing this offseason

    Im against moving Comtois too, but with our RW need and Pool Party being potentially available I would make a swap based around those two
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    @Lenny7 would love to hear your opinions as well
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    Thoughts on the Comtois-JP trade? value wise


    Value is fine. Depends upon your philosophy. I'm with our friend @GeneralLandro -- I'd sentimentally like to keep him. But management may think otherwise.
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    21 juin 2022 à 10 h 16
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    Value is fine. Depends upon your philosophy. I'm with our friend GeneralLandro -- I'd sentimentally like to keep him. But management may think otherwise.


    Ideally I would like to keep him as well, I may just be connecting dots that arent really there but I think it would be a beneficial swap for both sides
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    21 juin 2022 à 10 h 19
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    This seems incredibly reasonable.

    I'm kinda torn on whether to target Nuke or Bura, but either would be solid additions. While I don't like the idea of going 5 x $6, it's quite likely that we'll have to overpay a bit to get a solid UFA. Thoughts on Nino instead?

    *Something* tells me that Bear is going to be looking for closer to $4 on an AAV. If the issue in Carolina is strictly money (Friedman said Carolina would prefer to keep him, but that they were pretty far apart on money).

    I think it's unlikely that McTavish starts off at C. While I think Rico can still handle those minutes, it might not hurt to get a bit more C depth.

    Poolparty? A solid addition but unless Edmonton can unload Barrie, I don't see them being super interested in Shatty. Also not sold on moving Comer unless it's in a package for a major upgrade (DUBCAT SZNNNNN!)

    Lastly, I remember seeing the Calgary fans thread, but I'd be surprised if they'd give up a 1st to move him. If they want to keep Johnny, Mangiapane and Tkachuk, it might be worth it, but I'd imagine a 2nd and OK prospect is likely more like it (Similar to Stralman trade to Zona last year).
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    Quoting: Salzy
    Lenny7 would love to hear your opinions as well


    I have arrived tears of joy
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    21 juin 2022 à 10 h 22
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    Quoting: Salzy
    Every game I watch him play I want us to sign him more and more, to me Nichushkin is the perfect compliment to Z and Terry

    I dont see the need in buying him out unless thats the condition of him waving, I think he still has a place in SoCal from his Kings days so it might be enticing to him. Could provide that toughness we will be addressing this offseason

    Im against moving Comtois too, but with our RW need and Pool Party being potentially available I would make a swap based around those two


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    Every game I watch him play I want us to sign him more and more, to me Nichushkin is the perfect compliment to Z and Terry

    I dont see the need in buying him out unless thats the condition of him waving, I think he still has a place in SoCal from his Kings days so it might be enticing to him. Could provide that toughness we will be addressing this offseason

    Im against moving Comtois too, but with our RW need and Pool Party being potentially available I would make a swap based around those two


    No I agree with Lucic, I would want to keep him unless that was the only way for the deal to happen
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    21 juin 2022 à 10 h 25
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    Quoting: Lenny7
    This seems incredibly reasonable.

    I'm kinda torn on whether to target Nuke or Bura, but either would be solid additions. While I don't like the idea of going 5 x $6, it's quite likely that we'll have to overpay a bit to get a solid UFA. Thoughts on Nino instead?

    *Something* tells me that Bear is going to be looking for closer to $4 on an AAV. If the issue in Carolina is strictly money (Friedman said Carolina would prefer to keep him, but that they were pretty far apart on money).

    I think it's unlikely that McTavish starts off at C. While I think Rico can still handle those minutes, it might not hurt to get a bit more C depth.

    Poolparty? A solid addition but unless Edmonton can unload Barrie, I don't see them being super interested in Shatty. Also not sold on moving Comer unless it's in a package for a major upgrade (DUBCAT SZNNNNN!)

    Lastly, I remember seeing the Calgary fans thread, but I'd be surprised if they'd give up a 1st to move him. If they want to keep Johnny, Mangiapane and Tkachuk, it might be worth it, but I'd imagine a 2nd and OK prospect is likely more like it (Similar to Stralman trade to Zona last year).


    Thats how I started making this ACGM was debating with myself between those two for who would be the better target for us tears of joy I've never really been a fan of Nino, I think Nuke or Bura is the way to go if we add to our top 6 through FA

    Yeah I was doing some looking around and there doesnt seem to be a real consensus on Bears next contract so I took a wild swing here haha, I think he'd be a solid target for us

    McTavish for sure starts on the wing (probably line 3 as well) I just like putting him at C tears of joy I think we for sure add at least one bottom 6 C in FA, I was just lazy and didnt want to sift through the FAs

    Oh right I forgot about Barrie, yeah they probably wont have any interest in Shatty then but I see a deal around Comer and Pool Party being solid for us if Comtois is on the way out (hopefully not)

    Yeah something like that is probably more likely than what I have above, I just took the easy way out tears of joy
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    21 juin 2022 à 10 h 26
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    Quoting: Lenny7
    This seems incredibly reasonable.

    I'm kinda torn on whether to target Nuke or Bura, but either would be solid additions. While I don't like the idea of going 5 x $6, it's quite likely that we'll have to overpay a bit to get a solid UFA. Thoughts on Nino instead?

    *Something* tells me that Bear is going to be looking for closer to $4 on an AAV. If the issue in Carolina is strictly money (Friedman said Carolina would prefer to keep him, but that they were pretty far apart on money).

    I think it's unlikely that McTavish starts off at C. While I think Rico can still handle those minutes, it might not hurt to get a bit more C depth.

    Poolparty? A solid addition but unless Edmonton can unload Barrie, I don't see them being super interested in Shatty. Also not sold on moving Comer unless it's in a package for a major upgrade (DUBCAT SZNNNNN!)

    Lastly, I remember seeing the Calgary fans thread, but I'd be surprised if they'd give up a 1st to move him. If they want to keep Johnny, Mangiapane and Tkachuk, it might be worth it, but I'd imagine a 2nd and OK prospect is likely more like it (Similar to Stralman trade to Zona last year).


    On the Bear front - I just don’t see Canes keeping him unless he takes a cheap one year prove it deal. He had some back luck with injuries and Covid this year which is unfortunate but not sure why any team would pencil him in anywhere close to the 4m he is rumored to be seeking.

    I like the player but I just don’t see where he’s earned anywhere near that and I don’t think he has a ton of leverage. Even if he went to arb (which canes would dump him before it got to that point) I’m not sure he gets awarded anything above 2-2.5?
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    21 juin 2022 à 10 h 30
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    On the Bear front - I just don’t see Canes keeping him unless he takes a cheap one year prove it deal. He had some back luck with injuries and Covid this year which is unfortunate but not sure why any team would pencil him in anywhere close to the 4m he is rumored to be seeking.

    I like the player but I just don’t see where he’s earned anywhere near that and I don’t think he has a ton of leverage. Even if he went to arb (which canes would dump him before it got to that point) I’m not sure he gets awarded anything above 2-2.5?


    I think CAR showed their hand if the report they're allowing him to seek out contracts with other teams is true, I feel like he goes for a third to whatever team signs him, since his AAV on an OS would be a 2nd and I dont think CAR gets that for him

    There is too many "knocks" on him for him to have any sort of leverage in contract negotiations imo I dont see him getting more than 3M AAV
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    21 juin 2022 à 10 h 30
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    Quoting: vikhodush
    On the Bear front - I just don’t see Canes keeping him unless he takes a cheap one year prove it deal. He had some back luck with injuries and Covid this year which is unfortunate but not sure why any team would pencil him in anywhere close to the 4m he is rumored to be seeking.

    I like the player but I just don’t see where he’s earned anywhere near that and I don’t think he has a ton of leverage. Even if he went to arb (which canes would dump him before it got to that point) I’m not sure he gets awarded anything above 2-2.5?


    For sure, and I honestly don't think he's worth $4, I'm just guessing that's where the issue is. I'd probably go 3 x $3 with him, but I also don't know that he's the long term answer back there.
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    21 juin 2022 à 10 h 34
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    Thats how I started making this ACGM was debating with myself between those two for who would be the better target for us tears of joy I've never really been a fan of Nino, I think Nuke or Bura is the way to go if we add to our top 6 through FA

    Yeah I was doing some looking around and there doesnt seem to be a real consensus on Bears next contract so I took a wild swing here haha, I think he'd be a solid target for us

    McTavish for sure starts on the wing (probably line 3 as well) I just like putting him at C tears of joy I think we for sure add at least one bottom 6 C in FA, I was just lazy and didnt want to sift through the FAs

    Oh right I forgot about Barrie, yeah they probably wont have any interest in Shatty then but I see a deal around Comer and Pool Party being solid for us if Comtois is on the way out (hopefully not)

    Yeah something like that is probably more likely than what I have above, I just took the easy way out tears of joy


    Hahaha, at least it wasn't "Player A, B, and C to Arizona for a 7th" tears of joy

    I'm still on the offersheet either Roy or Hague train. I think Hague would be an outstanding 2nd pairing guy for this squad.

    The likeliest scenario? Picking up a dump or two, and something very un-sexy like Max Domi.
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    I think CAR showed their hand if the report they're allowing him to seek out contracts with other teams is true, I feel like he goes for a third to whatever team signs him, since his AAV on an OS would be a 2nd and I dont think CAR gets that for him

    There is too many "knocks" on him for him to have any sort of leverage in contract negotiations imo I dont see him getting more than 3M AAV


    Oh yeah I think a 3rd or so is probably fair value for him and Canes would accept. Maybe if there’s multiple teams in on him after the report that drives price up a bit but I’m not optimistic. Best thing for both sides is for him to get a shot somewhere and for canes to move on. He’s probably best suited for a team like Ducks or somebody who’s not in a contention window yet so he gets a chance to actually play without a short leash.

    3x3 could be a good deal but I personally wouldn’t want to do more than a year or two. Some of the stuff I saw with him last year when he did play scared me. Namely his foot speed / skating while defending against the rush and his lack of strength on the boards in d zone. I’m willing to say Covid and some lower body injuries attributed to that but it still scares me a bit. On the flip side I love his o zone game. Makes good first passes, has a great shooting mentality and is great at getting pucks through and can run a PP unit pretty well.
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    Quoting: Lenny7
    For sure, and I honestly don't think he's worth $4, I'm just guessing that's where the issue is. I'd probably go 3 x $3 with him, but I also don't know that he's the long term answer back there.


    Quoting: vikhodush
    Oh yeah I think a 3rd or so is probably fair value for him and Canes would accept. Maybe if there’s multiple teams in on him after the report that drives price up a bit but I’m not optimistic. Best thing for both sides is for him to get a shot somewhere and for canes to move on. He’s probably best suited for a team like Ducks or somebody who’s not in a contention window yet so he gets a chance to actually play without a short leash.

    3x3 could be a good deal but I personally wouldn’t want to do more than a year or two. Some of the stuff I saw with him last year when he did play scared me. Namely his foot speed / skating while defending against the rush and his lack of strength on the boards in d zone. I’m willing to say Covid and some lower body injuries attributed to that but it still scares me a bit. On the flip side I love his o zone game. Makes good first passes, has a great shooting mentality and is great at getting pucks through and can run a PP unit pretty well.


    Whoops meant to multi quote both of you guys in here
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    Hahaha, at least it wasn't "Player A, B, and C to Arizona for a 7th" tears of joy

    I'm still on the offersheet either Roy or Hague train. I think Hague would be an outstanding 2nd pairing guy for this squad.

    The likeliest scenario? Picking up a dump or two, and something very un-sexy like Max Domi.


    I would fire Grant into the sun if I could tears of joy

    I think Hauge should be the Ducks top target this offseason honestly, Just wanted to try out a different look, I dont think Roy should be targeted honestly, I'd rather roll with what we have

    Hornqvist and Denisenko for a 6th, Holl for a 5th, and signing Max Domi and Nikita Zadorov would be the most Bob Murray Offseason GMPV could pull off tears of joy
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    Oh yeah I think a 3rd or so is probably fair value for him and Canes would accept. Maybe if there’s multiple teams in on him after the report that drives price up a bit but I’m not optimistic. Best thing for both sides is for him to get a shot somewhere and for canes to move on. He’s probably best suited for a team like Ducks or somebody who’s not in a contention window yet so he gets a chance to actually play without a short leash.

    3x3 could be a good deal but I personally wouldn’t want to do more than a year or two. Some of the stuff I saw with him last year when he did play scared me. Namely his foot speed / skating while defending against the rush and his lack of strength on the boards in d zone. I’m willing to say Covid and some lower body injuries attributed to that but it still scares me a bit. On the flip side I love his o zone game. Makes good first passes, has a great shooting mentality and is great at getting pucks through and can run a PP unit pretty well.


    Him getting a pretty much uncontested chance at the top 4 in ANA (Even if Shatty is still here) would be enticing to him I would think, and if he can prove himself he fits our timeline age wise.

    I think a two year deal would be perfect for him, worst case the second year hes a bottom pairing guy that doesnt hurt the Ducks with all the cap space we have

    Definetley has his flaws, the Ducks RD depth right now is Drysdale-Shattenkirk-Helleson and I dont think Helleson is NHL ready yet so Bear seems like a perfect fit, especially with Shatty having 1 year left
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    Mahura really isn't a need and Lucic wont cost a 1st to move
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    Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
    Mahura really isn't a need and Lucic wont cost a 1st to move


    Yeah something like the Stralman dump seems more likely than what I have here
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    I would fire Grant into the sun if I could tears of joy

    I think Hauge should be the Ducks top target this offseason honestly, Just wanted to try out a different look, I dont think Roy should be targeted honestly, I'd rather roll with what we have

    Hornqvist and Denisenko for a 6th, Holl for a 5th, and signing Max Domi and Nikita Zadorov would be the most Bob Murray Offseason GMPV could pull off tears of joy


    Agreed. I mean, I've got nothing against Grant, I just don't see him having any business playing more than 4th line/13th forward minutes.

    Agree on the Ex-GMBM comment tears of joy
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    Instead of Lucic, I would love to get Monahan. If he can bounce back from his injury, I think he would be a great add for 2nd center and ease McTavish into that role. However, I like lucic in the role of Des and he can still skate well.

    I really would like the ducks to go after Bear. He would be perfect for what we are looking for on the right side and with his age.

    The addition of Nichushkin is ok. He is for sure driving up his cost. But instead of trading Comtois and signing Nichushkin, hold the trade and sign Forsberg and have him play on the wing with McTavish. That would be my dream. Then find a trade for Shatty.

    But, I have to say, I like what you did here. Got me thinking of the possibility. Could push for a playoff spot with this team like Kings did last year.
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    Instead of Lucic, I would love to get Monahan. If he can bounce back from his injury, I think he would be a great add for 2nd center and ease McTavish into that role. However, I like lucic in the role of Des and he can still skate well.

    I really would like the ducks to go after Bear. He would be perfect for what we are looking for on the right side and with his age.

    The addition of Nichushkin is ok. He is for sure driving up his cost. But instead of trading Comtois and signing Nichushkin, hold the trade and sign Forsberg and have him play on the wing with McTavish. That would be my dream. Then find a trade for Shatty.

    But, I have to say, I like what you did here. Got me thinking of the possibility. Could push for a playoff spot with this team like Kings did last year.


    The vibe I’ve gotten from CGY is that they may keep Monahan, obviously I’d rather him over Looch but I think the latter is more realistic

    Bear really does seem like a great fit for us though, both short and potentially long term

    I just see Nuke as the perfect compliment to Z and Terry I’d love to have him even if it is a bigger deal than he may be worth.

    That’s all I was trying to do here, toy around with some different ideas once the playoffs are done I’m going to take a crack at a more predictive offseason for us. There are so many potential avenues this team can go down this offseason
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    The vibe I’ve gotten from CGY is that they may keep Monahan, obviously I’d rather him over Looch but I think the latter is more realistic

    Bear really does seem like a great fit for us though, both short and potentially long term

    I just see Nuke as the perfect compliment to Z and Terry I’d love to have him even if it is a bigger deal than he may be worth.

    That’s all I was trying to do here, toy around with some different ideas once the playoffs are done I’m going to take a crack at a more predictive offseason for us. There are so many potential avenues this team can go down this offseason


    Completely agree. We can push to sneak in the playoffs with this team. That is something to look at. If not, we would be a year away with a ton of draft capital.
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