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hypothetical trade for 2nd overall

Créé par: Nathanbrown99888
Équipe: 2022-23 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 21 juin 2022
Publié: 21 juin 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Not saying they should do it, but this is probably fair value
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
54 500 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Slafkovsky, Juraj
3925 000 $
Wright, Shane
3925 000 $
Transactions
1.
MTL
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (NJD)
NJD
  1. Anderson, Josh
  2. Guhle, Kaiden
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (CGY)
2.
MTL
ARI
  1. Hoffman, Mike
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (CAR)
Rachats de contrats
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2022
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2023
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2024
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2282 500 000 $68 776 249 $1 132 500 $1 570 000 $13 723 751 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Slafkovsky, Juraj
925 000 $925 000 $
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7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
C
UFA - 8
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880 833 $880 833 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Wright, Shane
925 000 $925 000 $
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 5
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
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4 450 000 $4 450 000 $
C
UFA - 3
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2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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750 000 $750 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
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1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
C
UFA - 3
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880 833 $880 833 $
AD, AG
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
DG
RFA - 3
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2 343 750 $2 343 750 $
DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
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10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 4
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875 000 $875 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
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2 875 000 $2 875 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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842 500 $842 500 $ (Bonis de performance507 500 $$508K)
DG/DD
RFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
DD
RFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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762 500 $762 500 $
DD
UFA - 2

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21 juin 2022 à 9 h 41
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Not enough heading to NJ. Anderson holds little to no value in this scenario.
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21 juin 2022 à 9 h 47
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If I see one more Anderson to NJ post I'm DDOSing CapFriendly
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21 juin 2022 à 9 h 49
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V-E-R-Y close on #2!

Just replace Anderson with Caufield.
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21 juin 2022 à 9 h 49
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I would definitely not make that trade. Guhle will be a top 4 for a decade. Yes Slafkovsky will be a good player but I wouldn’t move a definite top 4 for a top 6, then add a power forward and another 1st round pick.
21 juin 2022 à 9 h 50
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I would definitely not make that trade. Guhle will be a top 4 for a decade. Yes Slafkovsky will be a good player but I wouldn’t move a definite top 4 for a top 6, then add a power forward and another 1st round pick.


Guhle is a good prospect, but Anderson had 6 points during Montreal’s cup run. Not sure why Habs fans think he’s worth so much tbh.
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21 juin 2022 à 9 h 51
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Berniers, Byfield, Kakko, Svechnikov, Patrick, Laine, Eichel, Reinhart, Barkov, Murray, Landeskog, Seguin, Hedman, Doughty, JVR

How many of these guys wound up not exceeding the proposed trade value here.

Patrick and Murray maybe?
21 juin 2022 à 9 h 53
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Berniers, Byfield, Kakko, Svechnikov, Patrick, Laine, Eichel, Reinhart, Barkov, Murray, Landeskog, Seguin, Hedman, Doughty, JVR

How many of these guys were worth that package before they were drafted?

Patrick and Murray maybe?


I guess that you're too young to remember, but Eichel, Doughty and Hedman all were touted that highly.
21 juin 2022 à 9 h 55
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I guess that you're too young to remember, but Eichel, Doughty and Hedman all were touted that highly.


What? Yeah I'm aware they were all super hyped up. My point is that in the last 15 years, there were only two players where this trade proposal is fair value, jury out on Kakko, Byfield, and Bernie's but I imagine they all exceed this trade value as well.

E: fixed the wording.
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21 juin 2022 à 10 h 20
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MTL doesnt have the assets to do a trade for 2oa, but on a 3-way trade, maybe, are there other gms that would be willing to do so? prob not.
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21 juin 2022 à 10 h 33
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Guhle is a good prospect, but Anderson had 6 points during Montreal’s cup run. Not sure why Habs fans think he’s worth so much tbh.


If you watch him play nightly you would understand.. If he finds his scoring touch he has the potential to score 30-40 goals
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21 juin 2022 à 10 h 40
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If you watch him play nightly you would understand.. If he finds his scoring touch he has the potential to score 30-40 goals


Yeah. But we are talking about a veteran winger with an extensive injury history.
21 juin 2022 à 10 h 47
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MTL doesnt have the assets to do a trade for 2oa, but on a 3-way trade, maybe, are there other gms that would be willing to do so? prob not.


The only three team that for the 2OA that i've seen make any sense doesnt end with montreal getting that pick

Columbus gets the 2OA in the scenario
Habs gets the 12th
Devils get the 6th and Anderson.

And theres a few other smaller pieces mixed in there, but theres no path i can see where the habs would make an offer that the Devils would even consider.
21 juin 2022 à 10 h 48
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Yeah. But we are talking about a veteran winger with an extensive injury history.


No he has had the one major injury before coming to Montreal last two seasons he has only missed a total of like 15 games .
21 juin 2022 à 11 h 4
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No he has had the one major injury before coming to Montreal last two seasons he has only missed a total of like 15 games .


He misses a lot of games 🤷‍♂️
21 juin 2022 à 11 h 15
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I don't think that's enough for the 2OA...NJD are in the driver's seat here with that pick and they would want a crazy haul for it which in my opinion they would ask for Caufield in the trade and MTL just won't do that. They're very high on Guhle as well so I don't see them trading their best D prospect In a package for a Winger. Anderson doesn't hold the vaule on here some people are doing but he also isn't a cap dump like other people are saying lol he's a big and fast power forward who creates a lot of space for his linemates, he still had over 40pts and 19G on the worst team in the NHL while missing some games so his style of play and what he can bring is definitely going to get teams to come after him, yes he has his bad qualities too like not being great on D etc but at the end of the day he is a Big and fast power forward and those are rare in the NHL...put him on a contending team on a line with higher end more experienced players and he's going to thrive there I'm sure.
21 juin 2022 à 11 h 22
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Quoting: Isles5513
Guhle is a good prospect, but Anderson had 6 points during Montreal’s cup run. Not sure why Habs fans think he’s worth so much tbh.


This is what so many fans are missing. In 2011 I coached at the junior level. Our GM wanted to trade a similar player to Anderson. I said don’t you dare. When he’s in my line up my skill players play bigger and have more room. When Patrick maroon was mouthing off, Anderson stood up to him and got in his face. Habs have 3 bigs up front. Armia doesn’t have that meanness in him. Down to 2. Pezzetta is a 4th line player that was in his 1st year. That leaves Anderson, that still finished the year with 19 goals. Yes the goon era is gone, but having coached for 23 years, you still need 1 to 3 guys that can handle themselves and be a presence on the ice. So I wouldn’t trade Anderson. Look how many teams are calling for him. He’s a wanted commodity.
21 juin 2022 à 12 h 27
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He misses a lot of games 🤷‍♂️


So many games probably should just retire
21 juin 2022 à 12 h 54
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You forgot to include caufield in this trade.... You can't get 2nd overall with a cap dump, a decent prospect, and a significantly later 1st round pick. Cute try though
 
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