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Créé par: rf9
Date de création initiale: 21 juin 2022
Publié: 21 juin 2022
Équipe: 2022-23 Sénateurs d'Ottawa
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Brännström, Erik21 800 000 $
Formenton, Alex22 000 000 $
Joseph, Mathieu22 500 000 $
Norris, Joshua77 500 000 $
Zadina, Filip22 200 000 $
Gaudette, Adam1950 000 $
Hayton, Barrett22 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Rutta, Jan33 300 000 $
Agozzino, Andrew2750 000 $
Senyshyn, Zach2750 000 $
Shaw, Logan2750 000 $
Heatherington, Dillon2750 000 $
Transactions
1.
OTT
  1. Zadina, Filip [Droits de RFA]
DET
  1. Brännström, Erik
2.
OTT
  1. 2023 6e round pick (TOR)
TOR
  1. Gaudette, Adam
3.
OTT
  1. Anderson, Josh
  2. 2022 3e round pick (ANA)
MTL
  1. White, Colin
  2. Del Zotto, Michael
  3. 2022 2e round pick (TBL)
  4. 2022 3e round pick (BOS)
4.
OTT
  1. Hayton, Barrett [Droits de RFA]
ARI
  1. Zaitsev, Nikita
  2. Järventie, Roby
  3. 2022 3e round pick (ANA)
  4. 2022 5e round pick (WPG)
5.
OTT
  1. Savoie, Carter
  2. 2023 2e round pick (EDM)
  3. 2022 5e round pick (EDM)
EDM
  1. Brown, Connor
Rachats de contrats
  • Bobby Ryan: 1 833 333 $
  • Dion Phaneuf: 354 167 $
  • Matt Murray: 1 750 000 $
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
  • Matt Murray: 1 562 500 $ (25%)
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2022
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2023
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2024
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2082 500 000 $67 243 214 $0 $4 025 000 $15 256 786 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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Tkachuk, Brady
8 205 714 $
AG, C
UFA - 6
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Norris, Joshua
7 500 000 $
C
UFA - 8
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Batherson, Drake
4 975 000 $
AD
UFA - 5
Zadina, Filip
2 200 000 $
AD, AG
RFA
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Stützle, Tim
925 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 1
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Joseph, Mathieu
2 500 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 4
Hayton, Barrett
2 000 000 $
C, AG
RFA
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Pinto, Shane
925 000 $
C
RFA - 1
Logo de MTL
Anderson, Josh
5 500 000 $
AD, AG
NTC
UFA - 5
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Formenton, Alex
2 000 000 $
AG
RFA
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Gambrell, Dylan
950 000 $
C
RFA - 1
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Watson, Austin
1 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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Chabot, Thomas
8 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 6
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Zub, Artem
2 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
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Forsberg, Anton
2 750 000 $
G
UFA - 3
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Sanderson, Jake
925 000 $
DG
RFA - 2
Rutta, Jan
3 300 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 3
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Gustavsson, Filip
787 500 $
G
RFA - 1
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Holden, Nick
1 300 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 1
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Hamonic, Travis
3 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 1

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21 juin à 8 h 49
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You really think that the habs will accept that after all the rumors about Anderson's worth the past week or so?
21 juin à 8 h 53
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Quoting: Habs_fan31
You really think that the habs will accept that after all the rumors about Anderson's worth the past week or so?


Rumors were Vegas would have to add at least a 2nd to get rid of Dadonov. Price decides to come back every Montreal trade becomes a cap dump.
21 juin à 8 h 56
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Detroit declines. We're looking for veteran help on LD, we already have eight kids 23 or younger on that position and don't need more.
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21 juin à 8 h 58
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Quoting: Billy12Bob
Detroit declines. We're looking for veteran help on LD, we already have eight kids 23 or younger on that position and don't need more.


Could I interest you in a slightly used Michael Del-Zotto?
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21 juin à 8 h 58
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Quoting: Habs_fan31
You really think that the habs will accept that after all the rumors about Anderson's worth the past week or so?


Anderson is worth like a pretty good prospect and a couple of picks. colin white used to be kent hughes client and really needs a change of scenery. mdz is a good depth dman, this way they get players who can fill out the line up right away aswell as getting 2 fairly decent picks
21 juin à 8 h 59
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Quoting: Riley816
Rumors were Vegas would have to add at least a 2nd to get rid of Dadonov. Price decides to come back every Montreal trade becomes a cap dump.


Comparing the Dadonov trade to a potential Anderson isn't how this should be looked at. If Anderson is traded then the habs will receive at least a first round pick or a A prospect. Hughes has shown that in his short time he will only trade someone if he gets what he wants.

Also, the habs have roughly 2 million in space with Price on the roster, the only cap dump they would have to do would be Hoffman. They are also likely trading Petry but that will not be a cap dump.
21 juin à 9 h 0
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I'd do Brannstrom for Hayton, instead. Unfortunately, you don't get a former top 5 pick for a cap dump and a few mid round picks.
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I'd do Brannstrom for Hayton, instead. Unfortunately, you don't get a former top 5 pick for a cap dump and a few mid round picks.
21 juin à 9 h 1
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Quoting: rf9
Anderson is worth like a pretty good prospect and a couple of picks. colin white used to be kent hughes client and really needs a change of scenery. mdz is a good depth dman, this way they get players who can fill out the line up right away aswell as getting 2 fairly decent picks


The habs will not trade anderson for a struggle young player, a replacement d, a late 2nd and a late 3rd. If the sens really want Anderson, it starts with one of the teams top prospects in the system
21 juin à 9 h 4
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Habs wouldn't accept that trade but 7th overall for Anderson and 26th would be something they'd say yes to
21 juin à 9 h 6
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Quoting: Green4D4
Could I interest you in a slightly used Michael Del-Zotto?


Del Zotto would be our 5th or 6th option.

Assuming that Yzerman isn't going to bank on one of the kids stealing a roster spot during camp he's likely to want to acquire two LD and that will then be two defenders with two very different and specific jobs. One of them will have to be tailor made to be paired with Hronek and mitigate his weaknesses (Marcus Pettersson is perfect for that job), the other one will have to be able to QB our second PP and be good enough to play with Seider and mentor him and the frontrunners for that job is Schmidt and Martinez. Del Zotto isn't really a good fit for either of those two job descriptions.

Only if everything else fails will Del Zotto enter the discussion.
21 juin à 9 h 6
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Quoting: Habs_fan31
Comparing the Dadonov trade to a potential Anderson isn't how this should be looked at. If Anderson is traded then the habs will receive at least a first round pick or a A prospect. Hughes has shown that in his short time he will only trade someone if he gets what he wants.

Also, the habs have roughly 2 million in space with Price on the roster, the only cap dump they would have to do would be Hoffman. They are also likely trading Petry but that will not be a cap dump.


Nothing to do with Hughes and his trades or Dadonov. Just saying take rumors as rumours.
21 juin à 9 h 14
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Quoting: Green4D4
I'd do Brannstrom for Hayton, instead. Unfortunately, you don't get a former top 5 pick for a cap dump and a few mid round picks.


Unfortunately capfriendly was glitching when i was making the trade and the players in the system were not appearing. was going to throw sokolov or another decent prospect in. Don’t think personally i’d give up branstrom for hayton
21 juin à 9 h 17
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Quoting: Riley816
Rumors were Vegas would have to add at least a 2nd to get rid of Dadonov. Price decides to come back every Montreal trade becomes a cap dump.


You are simply wrong about that, sure we have some cap dumps but most of our players (Anderson being one) have actual value. Just cause you think we will be desperate to move players at a loss, does not make it true. We have no need to move Anderson or anyone, we are currently 2 mil under the cap and have options (buying out Byron gives us another 2 mil ish as dies buying out Drouin) we are not as desperate as you may think.
21 juin à 9 h 22
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Those Arizona and Montreal trades are particularly awful for Arizona and Montreal.
21 juin à 9 h 28
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Quoting: Green4D4
Could I interest you in a slightly used Michael Del-Zotto?


I think you spelt Nikita Zaitsev wrong, you know, the "Elite" defensive defenceman.
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21 juin à 9 h 30
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Quoting: Campabee
You are simply wrong about that, sure we have some cap dumps but most of our players (Anderson being one) have actual value. Just cause you think we will be desperate to move players at a loss, does not make it true. We have no need to move Anderson or anyone, we are currently 2 mil under the cap and have options (buying out Byron gives us another 2 mil ish as dies buying out Drouin) we are not as desperate as you may think.


Cap dumps or buyouts. Buying out Drouin and Byron does the job. Depends on Romanov's deal how much more they can do.
21 juin à 9 h 34
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Quoting: Riley816
Cap dumps or buyouts. Buying out Drouin and Byron does the job. Depends on Romanov's deal how much more they can do.


Romy only gets about 2.5 on a 3 year deal or 4 mil on a 5+ year deal. Pitlick gets less than 2 mil so if we do a 3 year deal on both we only need about 4.5 mil we already have 2 mil so buying out both Drouin (or trading him half retained for a 2nd) covers or pretty well covers our cap situation and that is only if Price is able to play (which is still doubtful in my mind)
21 juin à 9 h 38
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MTL don't want to trade Anderson therefore they will only be trading him for an offer they can't refuse which Hughes has already said. The OTT trade is not an offer he can't refuse, a team will have a give up a 1st or a higher end prospect for Hughes to move Anderson so either someone will end up overpaying or MTL just Keep him. They have 2M in cap right now and Petry highly likely leaving the summer so that's another 6.2M they're fine for cap and not IF Price decides to play lol he needs to know how his knee responds to his recent Injections And if he needs another surgery so it's a waiting game not price just sitting around deciding if he's going to play or Enjoy LTIR.
21 juin à 9 h 39
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Quoting: Green4D4
Could I interest you in a slightly used Michael Del-Zotto?


No

We don't want any of your spare parts.
21 juin à 9 h 41
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Quoting: zadinaveleno
No

We don't want any of your spare parts.


Quoting: Billy12Bob
Del Zotto would be our 5th or 6th option.

Assuming that Yzerman isn't going to bank on one of the kids stealing a roster spot during camp he's likely to want to acquire two LD and that will then be two defenders with two very different and specific jobs. One of them will have to be tailor made to be paired with Hronek and mitigate his weaknesses (Marcus Pettersson is perfect for that job), the other one will have to be able to QB our second PP and be good enough to play with Seider and mentor him and the frontrunners for that job is Schmidt and Martinez. Del Zotto isn't really a good fit for either of those two job descriptions.

Only if everything else fails will Del Zotto enter the discussion.


Y'all Detroit fans need to laugh a little. Sorry our teams have been garbage for half a decade. it's okay to laugh at them from time to time.
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21 juin à 9 h 44
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Quoting: Green4D4
Y'all Detroit fans need to laugh a little. Sorry our teams have been garbage for half a decade. it's okay to laugh at them from time to time.


The difference is we actually won, a lot might I add, before the recent drought.
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21 juin à 9 h 44
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Quoting: Habs_fan31
You really think that the habs will accept that after all the rumors about Anderson's worth the past week or so?


There aren’t any rumors. Just delusional bloggers in Montreal.
21 juin à 9 h 45
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Quoting: zadinaveleno
Yeah, man, jealous of all the Cups and success the mighty Ottawa Senators have had in recent years.


I think his point was they both suck lol
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21 juin à 9 h 45
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Quoting: J_282512
MTL don't want to trade Anderson therefore they will only be trading him for an offer they can't refuse which Hughes has already said. The OTT trade is not an offer he can't refuse, a team will have a give up a 1st or a higher end prospect for Hughes to move Anderson so either someone will end up overpaying or MTL just Keep him. They have 2M in cap right now and Petry highly likely leaving the summer so that's another 6.2M they're fine for cap and not IF Price decides to play lol he needs to know how his knee responds to his recent Injections And if he needs another surgery so it's a waiting game not price just sitting around deciding if he's going to play or Enjoy LTIR.


Anderson isn’t worth a first or a higher end prospect….
 
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