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DeBrincat et Dach

Créé par: habslife
Équipe: 2022-23 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 20 juin 2022
Publié: 20 juin 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
MTL
CHI
  1. Anderson, Josh
  2. Evans, Jake
  3. Farrell, Sean [Liste de réserve]
  4. Harris, Jordan
  5. Kidney, Riley
  6. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (MTL)
Détails additionnels:
Deal? (Farrell ou Josh Roy)
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
1782 500 000 $69 902 916 $1 132 500 $1 062 500 $12 597 084 $
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880 833 $880 833 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
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Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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20 juin 2022 à 11 h 35
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That trade isn't close
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20 juin 2022 à 11 h 35
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Absolutely not
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20 juin 2022 à 11 h 36
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I don't think it's enough to get both Dach and Cat
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20 juin 2022 à 11 h 37
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I don't think it's enough to get both Dach and Cat


First Pick Overall avec de tres bons espoir et joueur établis........

Non?
20 juin 2022 à 11 h 38
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Absolutely not
20 juin 2022 à 11 h 40
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Quoting: habslife
First Pick Overall avec de tres bons espoir et joueur établis........

Non?


1st pick overall in a weak draft year. Shane Wright or Cooley, say in 2023, wouldn't be drafted in the top 3 spots...maybe not top 5. So putting that in perspective, that pick alone wouldn't land Cat...wouldn't take a bunch more but alone it wouldn't by itself is my guess.
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20 juin 2022 à 11 h 42
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Quoting: ChiHawk
1st pick overall in a weak draft year. Shane Wright or Cooley, say in 2023, wouldn't be drafted in the top 3 spots...maybe not top 5. So putting that in perspective, that pick alone wouldn't land Cat...wouldn't take a bunch more but alone it wouldn't by itself is my guess.


Je sais bien mais c'est quand même pas McDavid....
20 juin 2022 à 11 h 46
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Je sais bien mais c'est quand même pas McDavid....


I don't understand French
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20 juin 2022 à 11 h 49
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I don't understand French


I know, but DeBrincat is still not McDavid.

DSL Bad english awesome face
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20 juin 2022 à 11 h 50
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Quoting: ChiHawk
I don't understand French


"..He knows, but its not McDavid.."

Not sure if he means that Cat isn't McDavid or that Wright or Cooley aren't McDavid level.
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20 juin 2022 à 11 h 56
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I know, but DeBrincat is still not McDavid.

DSL Bad english awesome face


And nobody would trade McDavid for the #1 pick either and that's not close at all
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20 juin 2022 à 11 h 58
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"..He knows, but its not McDavid.."

Not sure if he means that Cat isn't McDavid or that Wright or Cooley aren't McDavid level.


I think he means Cat is not McDavid, but it's not even close the #1 pick for McDavid. For Cat it's closer but not enough, would take something else is my guess.
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20 juin 2022 à 11 h 59
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Je pense que Chicago dit "non". Vous enlevez Anderson et Kidney, et ajoutez Dvorak avec 50% retention
20 juin 2022 à 12 h 3
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Quoting: ChiHawk
I think he means Cat is not McDavid, but it's not even close the #1 pick for McDavid. For Cat it's closer but not enough, would take something else is my guess.


It just seems so strange to me that Chicago would want to move Dach or Cat. Aren't those the type of guys you build around? My thinking is that the Cat and Kane combination can win too many games...

Unless it's scorched earth in Chicago after Toews and Kane are gone, no sense in moving Cat.
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20 juin 2022 à 12 h 14
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It just seems so strange to me that Chicago would want to move Dach or Cat. Aren't those the type of guys you build around? My thinking is that the Cat and Kane combination can win too many games...

Unless it's scorched earth in Chicago after Toews and Kane are gone, no sense in moving Cat.


Yeah, I think the idea is to move Cat, Kane and Toews and just tank. If this is a true tear down rebuild, then the Hawks aren't competing for 4 to 5 years and that starts falling outside of Cat's timeline to peak.

I'm never a fan of teardown rebuilds. The risk is too high they will be successful and meanwhile the fanbase shrinks and thus revenues. I think the Jones trade, amongst others moves really screwed up this team over the last years under Stan Bowman. They had all the chances in the world to retool for a couple years and still be competing now.
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20 juin 2022 à 13 h 12
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Call me crazy, but I think the Hawks would be fools to pass up this deal. They get #1 overall and will still be bad enough to likely pick top 3 in next year's draft while stocking their organizational depth with guys like Kidney and Farrell. If Josh Anderson is healhty, he's a nice player to have as well and probably outproduces Dach
20 juin 2022 à 13 h 52
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Outside of the Shane Wright pick, it's basically garbage for Dach and DeBrincat.
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20 juin 2022 à 16 h 29
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MTl passes, no way they trading 1st OA for a winger and a 3rd line C,
20 juin 2022 à 23 h 40
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Call me crazy, but I think the Hawks would be fools to pass up this deal. They get #1 overall and will still be bad enough to likely pick top 3 in next year's draft while stocking their organizational depth with guys like Kidney and Farrell. If Josh Anderson is healhty, he's a nice player to have as well and probably outproduces Dach


The top 3 pick next year shouldn't be contemplated as part of the value of this proposed trade. Shane Wright is a big gamble, if he was drafted next year he'd probably be the #4 to #6 pick. Which if this was next year's #1 then I agree, but Shane Wright is simply not worth this package. Much rather have Cat any day over Wright and if Dach pulls his development together, he could also potentially be worth more then anything in this package...long shot but bird in hand.
20 juin 2022 à 23 h 41
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MTl passes, no way they trading 1st OA for a winger and a 3rd line C,


LMAO you'd be nuts to pass up on Dach and Cat over Wright who's questionable. If Wright becomes as good as Cat in the NHL then it's a win but that's clearly far from a given with his performance this past year in the juniors.
 
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