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Sandpaper

Créé par: QJohns62
Équipe: 2022-23 Canucks de Vancouver
Date de création initiale: 20 juin 2022
Publié: 20 juin 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Three objectives here:
- Trade at least 3 players that have been in rumours (Dickinson, Miller, Pearson, Garland, OEL, Myers)
- Try to have at least 1 mil in Cap space heading into upcoming season
- Try to retool to at least be younger and more competitive on paper (more sandpaper, hate to lose mentality)

See all trade descriptions

UFA decisions:
- Kuzmenko seems highly likely to Van, seems like he enjoyed his time in the city, Boudreau seems like best fit coach for him right now, chance to link up again with Podz
- Rakell could want to join ranks of Swedish legends to play in Van, also a solid playmaker, could easily make a good linemate for shooters like Petey and Boes, and doesn't need to be a constant play driver with Petey centering
- Blackwell is that sandpaper kind of player POHO Rutherford wants to incorporate into the lineup. Solid player that seems like a good culture guy
- Manson and Lybushkin fit a sort of mould the right side is developing, solid RHD that can be stay at home physical players, but jump into the offensive play once in a blue moon and surprise the opposition
- McKegg is a good depth piece that adds professionalism, and also apparently has a good relationship with Horvat, probably ways to get him on a cheap contract.

Captaincy Updates:
Horvat still wears the C, OEL gets an A at home, with Boeser joining him, Hughes and Pearson get A's on the road

Projecting picks based on trades made:
15th: Ryan Chesley, RD
53rd: Danny Zhilkin, LHC
80th: Jake Furlong, LD
112th: Jake Sloan, RW
144th: Josh Niedermayer, LD
154: Jakub Huber, LW
176: Luke Devlin, LHC
208: Tyler Dunbar, LD
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
3913 750 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
21 150 000 $
1827 500 $
2875 000 $
2875 000 $
66 650 000 $
42 750 000 $
12 000 000 $
2825 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
21 125 000 $
66 334 000 $
43 750 000 $
45 250 000 $
2775 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Kuzmenko, Andrey
1950 000 $
Transactions
1.
VAN
  1. MacEwen, Zack [Droits de RFA]
Détails additionnels:
Familiarity with the organization, should never have been put on waivers in the first place, can't imagine the locker room has an issue with bringing Mac back, and it's a cap space clear. Prime aged sandpaper player that hates to lose.
PHI
  1. Poolman, Tucker
Détails additionnels:
Fletcher takes on a player that he thinks fits Torts system, although that's debateable. Philly has the cap room to do this, and they need a better combination on the backend after the disaster last year. Poolman isn't exactly an answer, but he's a better defensive d-man than arguably anyone on the Flyers backend currently
2.
VAN
  1. Kakko, Kaapo [Droits de RFA]
  2. Lundkvist, Nils
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (NYR)
  4. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (NYR)
Détails additionnels:
High skill winger? Young RD that could develop into a top 4 player? Plus a couple of picks? Hard to say no to this one, creates cap space, makes your team younger, and gives these players a better chance at development given the new emphasis in the organization than they've had a chance at.
NYR
  1. Miller, J.T.
Détails additionnels:
Let's make one thing clear. James Dolan makes the final calls on the Rangers. They clearly needed some more emotion after losing some of those games in the Tampa series, and to get one that forechecks, can out up close to 100pts, plus makes less than 6 mil? I think Dolan tells Drury to make it work. Is it a steep-ish price? Yeah, but in a bidding war type situation, it's gets done. Plus imagine that top 6, it might be the best one in the East next year.
3.
VAN
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (PIT)
  2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2022 (TOR)
Détails additionnels:
Van recovering some picks in this draft, I think they like too many players that will fall into the 2nd round (Havelid, Warren, Gaucher, Rinzel, etc.) to not try to get a pick there. The salary retention I would usually say only warrants a 3rd, but I think trading that (probably) late 4th next year for a late 5th this year is enough to upgrade that 3rd to a mid-late 2nd.
ANA
  1. Myers, Tyler (1 650 000 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (NYR)
Détails additionnels:
I can hear the comments already. "Who would pay that for Myers?" Here's my logic: developed his two-way game this season, still can chip in offensively, fills in a clear lack of RHD in Anaheim, can be a mentor to Drysdale, play in the top 4 (I don't know how Shattenkirk did this year, but I can't imagine it was 100% top 4 performance), and will cost about as much as Josh Manson was costing before he got traded at the deadline with the retention. Myers still has more value than fans of most teams give him, and the last few rumours I heard on him that there were teams properly asking about him.
4.
VAN
  1. Wallinder, William [Liste de réserve]
Détails additionnels:
LHD, 6'4" early 2nd round pick, has a very Alex Edler type of play to him as a transitional two way defenseman, but with smoother skating. Does Yzerman hate giving Wallinder up? Yes. But I would be shocked if they aren't one of the teams trying to capitalize on Boston's window being forced shut. Walli also went through the Modo system, which Vancouver has a large familiarity with (See Naslund, Sedins) and Walli will have a chance to be developed under two guys he probably idolized growing up.
DET
  1. Garland, Conor
Détails additionnels:
Let's make one thing clear right now. Detroit does not trade Wallinder if they don't have one or either of McIsaac and Edvinsson. Those two guys make Wallinder expendable, and a prime candidate to make some moves, weaponized cap space, and try to take advantage of a couple falling teams with Washington losing Backstrom and Boston's window being forced shut. Doing this deal adds a cheap, prime aged, high tempo top 9 winger that can chip in offence, draw opposition in with some craftiness, and someone who can help take a leadership role.
5.
VAN
  1. Roy, Nicolas [Droits de RFA]
Détails additionnels:
Solid RFA, right handed centre which Van desperately needs, sand paper player that Vegas probably can't afford to resign. Can play a bottom 6 role, and is young enough to develop into one of the better 3C physical, checking, defensive players in the league.
VGK
  1. Ferland, Micheal
Détails additionnels:
Vegas continues its exploitation of the cap, but they're paying a small premium to do it. While it doesn't fix their current cap issues, it does give them one less player to resign, cap flexibility, and the ability to make one more big cap clearing move while also creating a possibility to not have to bring in dead money to do it. It isn't fun for Vegas to lose Roy, but it kinda feels like he's gonna be the odd man out once they get their cap settled.
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2022
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Logo de TOR
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2023
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Logo de NYR
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2024
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2382 500 000 $79 131 500 $1 250 000 $850 000 $3 368 500 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
6 334 000 $6 334 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 6
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
7 350 000 $7 350 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD, AG
RFA - 2
Kuzmenko, Andrey
950 000 $950 000 $
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
4 125 000 $4 125 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
6 650 000 $6 650 000 $
AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 5
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
2 650 000 $2 650 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
825 000 $825 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 1
1 125 000 $1 125 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
7 850 000 $7 850 000 $
DG
UFA - 5
5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
UFA - 4
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
7 260 000 $7 260 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 5
3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
762 500 $762 500 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
850 000 $850 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
750 000 $750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
1 150 000 $1 150 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
775 000 $775 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2

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20 juin 2022 à 7 h 22
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I'll certainly take the Philly trade and would be okay with relinquishing MacEwan to waivers for the second time

I think the Miller offer gets beat by other teams

Garland is worth more than a single prospect, have to add a 2nd at least

and I don't see Vegas giving up Roy that easily, let alone for more LTIR space
20 juin 2022 à 7 h 31
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We’re not giving away Roy for free lol
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20 juin 2022 à 7 h 38
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There is no need for Anaheim to spend a 2nd on an older and and expensive defenseman since we can just overpay someone in FA
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20 juin 2022 à 7 h 42
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With a handful of ld prospects Detroit has its only a matter of time before 1 gets moved for a needed asset. I dont think its this off-season though. I think especially with wallinder he gets another shl season.
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20 juin 2022 à 7 h 47
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No from Philly… I mean, poolman is an okay piece but we don’t have cap… Sanhiem is a borderline élire 2-way D and Ellis is an elite one

Even at 50% retained he still is a bigger hit than a guy like seeler
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20 juin 2022 à 7 h 58
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Detroit doesn't need wingers, we need an impact center. The value is ok (although I think Wallinder is going to be a stud and don't want him moved), but the fit doesn't make sense.
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20 juin 2022 à 8 h 31
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Wings need center not wingers. 2nd I doubt McIssac ever makes the big show, as he has bad shoulders and that is a liability. Wallinder is a big LHD and gets another year in the SHL and then we will see what his future is like.
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20 juin 2022 à 8 h 36
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The best thing (for teams looking to deal w/ NYR) would be for Dolan to get involved. You're absolutely right- he does have the final say. But he has - for the most part- left hockey decisions to the hockey guys (starting with Sather). After a season ending in the ECF, I don't see him with the "need" to get involved. But even if he did get involved-as impatient as he might be- I think he'd realize that moving all those assets for 1 year of Miller is just not good business.
20 juin 2022 à 9 h 10
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Quoting: Jfstompers
With a handful of ld prospects Detroit has its only a matter of time before 1 gets moved for a needed asset. I dont think its this off-season though. I think especially with wallinder he gets another shl season.


Yeah but Detroit doesn't need wingers and there are several players that would go before Wallinder.
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20 juin 2022 à 9 h 10
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Unfortunately Philly doesn't actually have the cap space for Poolman. They might need to shed JVR.
Detroit isn't trading prospects for wingers right now, it doesn't make sense for where they are. All Garland would do is block someone like Berggren or Söderblom. Both of those players could be better than Garland in a few years time. Also Wallinder is a very raw prospect with a ton of potential, he's not going to get moved, they are going to take their time with him and develop him properly I hope. McIsaac has a slim chance of making the NHL now. After a full season in the AHL he didn't really excel at that level but he didn't seem out of place from what I noticed.
Anaheim isn't trading for older players, doesn't make sense for them. They already have a couple good vets on the back end.
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20 juin 2022 à 9 h 11
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Quoting: aedoran
Yeah but Detroit doesn't need wingers and there are several players that would go before Wallinder.


Wallinder would be the last one I trade other than Edvinsson. I want to see what he becomes, he could be a very good player if developed properly.
20 juin 2022 à 10 h 0
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Wings pass no thankyou
20 juin 2022 à 10 h 16
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Flyers do not want to give up MacEwen and take up more cap space when you are looking to sign big free agents like a Forsberg, Kadri and hopefully Johnny hockey to turn the franchise around quick. And in the same time hinder players like Attard, Ginning and Nemec/Jiricek to get those NHL minutes
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20 juin 2022 à 11 h 37
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Quoting: GeneralLandro
There is no need for Anaheim to spend a 2nd on an older and and expensive defenseman since we can just overpay someone in FA


But can you get the overpaid UFA with only 2 years of term? Doubtful, if they are any where close to a top 4 defenseman. Those guys are all going to be getting 4-7 years. Regardless I do like trying free agency first which would mean this trade would go down after the draft so it isn't going to be 2022 picks.
20 juin 2022 à 12 h 16
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Absolutely not from Philly, not touching Poolman’s awful contract
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20 juin 2022 à 13 h 55
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Big no from ANA. They can overpay someone in FA and lose nothing. Myers is 32 and will be gone by the time the ducks are actually competing in 3 years. You don’t trade assets that could help you in your window for pieces that won’t
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