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one big trade and one not so big

Créé par: OldManRutherford
Équipe: 2022-23 Canucks de Vancouver
Date de création initiale: 19 juin 2022
Publié: 19 juin 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
54 800 000 $
63 500 000 $
2800 000 $
2800 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
37 000 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Cooley, Logan
3925 000 $
Kuzmenko, Andrei
1925 000 $
Offres hostiles
Le salaire annuel moyen (AAV) de l'offre hostile est calculé en divisant la valeur totale du contrat par: 1. La durée totale du contrat, ou 2. Cinq ans
JOUEURAAVCOMPENSATION
Roy, Nicolas4 200 000 $
Choix de 2e ronde en 2023
Transactions
1.
VAN
  1. Bratt, Jesper [Droits de RFA]
  2. Holtz, Alexander
  3. Mukhamadullin, Shakir
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (NJD)
  5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (NJD)
NJD
  1. Boeser, Brock [Droits de RFA]
  2. Höglander, Nils
  3. Horvat, Bo
  4. Rathbone, Jack [Droits de RFA]
  5. Tryamkin, Nikita [Liste de réserve]
  6. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (VAN)
2.
VAN
  1. Lucic, Milan
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (CGY)
Rachats de contrats
Enfoui
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2022
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Logo de VAN
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Logo de VAN
2023
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de NYR
Logo de CGY
Logo de VAN
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2024
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Logo de VAN
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2382 500 000 $81 659 167 $1 250 000 $1 865 000 $840 833 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
7 350 000 $7 350 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
4 800 000 $4 800 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Kuzmenko, Andrei
925 000 $925 000 $
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 5
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
4 950 000 $4 950 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD, AG
RFA - 2
Cooley, Logan
925 000 $925 000 $
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD, AG
RFA - 3
Logo de Flames de Calgary
5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
800 000 $800 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
883 750 $883 750 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
800 000 $800 000 $
C, AG
UFA
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
7 850 000 $7 850 000 $
DG
UFA - 5
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 6
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
UFA - 4
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
7 260 000 $7 260 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
762 500 $762 500 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
750 000 $750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
850 000 $850 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
883 750 $883 750 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
DD
RFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1

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19 juin 2022 à 18 h 16
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NJ declines. They’re giving up the 2, if not 3, most valueable assets of this trade.
2nd overall > Horvat
Bratt > Boeser
Holtz > Hoglander
Shakir =< Van 1st
Early 2nd > Rathbone
Devil a aimé ceci.
19 juin 2022 à 18 h 16
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Devils decline

Zacha + 2nd + minor prospect for Boeser
19 juin 2022 à 18 h 17
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Quoting: Lambchopz
NJ declines. They’re giving up the 2, if not 3, most valueable assets of this trade.
2nd overall > Horvat
Bratt > Boeser
Holtz > Hoglander
Shakir =< Van 1st
Early 2nd > Rathbone


And I’d keep Mukhamadullin over their pick
19 juin 2022 à 18 h 23
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Neither need nor want Letang especially for that term and money
19 juin 2022 à 18 h 28
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
Devils decline

Zacha + 2nd + minor prospect for Boeser


No reason for the Canucks to move Boeser for a package where the best piece is an early 2nd
Knuckl3s a aimé ceci.
19 juin 2022 à 18 h 31
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Quoting: Lambchopz
NJ declines. They’re giving up the 2, if not 3, most valueable assets of this trade.
2nd overall > Horvat
Bratt > Boeser
Holtz > Hoglander
Shakir =< Van 1st



Early 2nd > Rathbone


Bratt in 307 games has 70 G 203 pts
Boeser in 324 games has 121 G 256 pts.
In what world is Bratt better.

Horvat is one of the best two way centers in the league and you are saying that the second over all in a so so draft is better?
Hoglander is a skilled second round pick that will produce .
Rathbone is a skilled PMD that just needs to work on his D much like Mukhamudullin.
19 juin 2022 à 18 h 32
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Quoting: Lambchopz
NJ declines. They’re giving up the 2, if not 3, most valueable assets of this trade.
2nd overall > Horvat
Bratt > Boeser
Holtz > Hoglander
Shakir =< Van 1st
Early 2nd > Rathbone


No they’re not. Horvat is worth more than everything but the 2nd overall pick. Bratt had a good year but he’s really not much better than Boeser and rathbone is more valuable than the 2nd rounder. I agree the devils say no but it’s closer than you make it out to be
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19 juin 2022 à 18 h 32
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Think NJ and Van decline
19 juin 2022 à 18 h 40
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Quoting: sedin33
Think NJ and Van decline


I think most of these proposals on here are fantasy but I read the other day Rutherford and Jersey could be talking about a big splash. Jersey wants to strike with Hughes early so it would have to be JTM Hughes Horvat Petey or Boeser if it was going to be a big swing for the second OA. I think Horvat would have more appeal to NJ but in the end I would not be surprised to see Quinn Hughes as part of a deal???
19 juin 2022 à 20 h 55
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Quoting: OldManRutherford
I think most of these proposals on here are fantasy but I read the other day Rutherford and Jersey could be talking about a big splash. Jersey wants to strike with Hughes early so it would have to be JTM Hughes Horvat Petey or Boeser if it was going to be a big swing for the second OA. I think Horvat would have more appeal to NJ but in the end I would not be surprised to see Quinn Hughes as part of a deal???


Hughes isn’t going anywhere and probably not Horvat
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20 juin 2022 à 9 h 3
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And I’d keep Mukhamadullin over their pick


Personally wouldn’t, Mukh a tad overrated imo but I respect that
20 juin 2022 à 9 h 8
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Quoting: OldManRutherford
Bratt in 307 games has 70 G 203 pts
Boeser in 324 games has 121 G 256 pts.
In what world is Bratt better.

Horvat is one of the best two way centers in the league and you are saying that the second over all in a so so draft is better?
Hoglander is a skilled second round pick that will produce .
Rathbone is a skilled PMD that just needs to work on his D much like Mukhamudullin.


Check recent numbers comparing Bratt and Boeser. Bratt is coming off a far better year and while he isn’t the scorer Boeser is, he is a god skater, amazing in transition and offence generation. Top tier play driver and play maker, whereas Boeser is more of a finishing touch compared to him. Bratt also posts better defensive numbers too. I would easily take Bratt over Boeser (neither of these teams are my favourite).
Horvat is good but he is not a superstar, or even close. He’s a very good 2C but not a true star centerman, which is what you would end up with in selecting Logan Cooley.
Hoglander is great but his potential is lower than that of Holtz. I love Hoglander’s play style but on the market rn Holtz is definitely worth more.
Rathbone is not worth an early 2nd. Late 2nd, probably, but he’s also up there in age so it’s hard to project what he will be fully. Great player but this is 37th overall I believe; I don’t see a GM paying that for a gamble on Rathbone
Quoting: Aasen6
No they’re not. Horvat is worth more than everything but the 2nd overall pick. Bratt had a good year but he’s really not much better than Boeser and rathbone is more valuable than the 2nd rounder. I agree the devils say no but it’s closer than you make it out to be


(Quoting you as well so I don’t have to reply to the same thing twice)
 
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