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They dont need Girard

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Équipe: 2022-23 Avalanche du Colorado
Date de création initiale: 18 juin 2022
Publié: 19 juin 2022
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I think it would be a good sign for Bergeron to play 1 more and with a cup contending team like the Avs, to replace Kadri. Won’t hurt them for the following to sign McKinnon to an extension.


Beauvillier replaces Burakovsky. AB probably could put up a similar amount points because playing with more talent and less of a defensive style hockey.
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19 juin 2022 à 8 h 20
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Girard for Beau is probably close to a 1 for 1. Bowers isn't worth a 2nd
19 juin 2022 à 8 h 41
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is it just me or is is hard to believe Colorado is that good and still has money to sign Lehkonen, Manson, Nish, Keumper, and a 2C all to pretty reasonable team friendly deals
19 juin 2022 à 8 h 46
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Girard for Beau is probably close to a 1 for 1. Bowers isn't worth a 2nd


I disagree almost vehemently. AB a forward for his career scores at a similar rate Girard does. .44ppg vs .41ppg. The major problem with that is Girard is a 20minute a game dman, signed for 5 more years. AB is signed for 2 more years. COL isn’t doing that even if you drop the 2nd, Girard gets criminally underrated on here.
19 juin 2022 à 8 h 49
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Nichushkin and Kuemper AAV is probably 500k-1M to low, Manson a touch high.
19 juin 2022 à 9 h 0
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Bergeron has already said he'll return with the Bruins or retire.
19 juin 2022 à 9 h 21
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I disagree almost vehemently. AB a forward for his career scores at a similar rate Girard does. .44ppg vs .41ppg. The major problem with that is Girard is a 20minute a game dman, signed for 5 more years. AB is signed for 2 more years. COL isn’t doing that even if you drop the 2nd, Girard gets criminally underrated on here.


Girard has also played on one of the highest offensive teams in the league nearly his entire career, Beau certainly has not. I would argue Beau is as effective defensively as Girard. The term is a fair argument
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19 juin 2022 à 9 h 36
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Girard has also played on one of the highest offensive teams in the league nearly his entire career, Beau certainly has not. I would argue Beau is as effective defensively as Girard. The term is a fair argument


I don’t disagree with that, but Girard also doesn’t play on PP1 and since Makar joined the Avs hasn’t been a top pairing guy. The value of a defenseman who can play 20+ minutes imo is just so much more than a middle 6 winger, because it’s a whole lot easier to find them.
19 juin 2022 à 10 h 19
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I don’t disagree with that, but Girard also doesn’t play on PP1 and since Makar joined the Avs hasn’t been a top pairing guy. The value of a defenseman who can play 20+ minutes imo is just so much more than a middle 6 winger, because it’s a whole lot easier to find them.


Makar was certainly not the one who pushed him down the depth, that was Toews. Beau also doesn't play on PP1 either.

I think the value fluctuates with the market. With guys like Chychrun, potentially Sergachev, and others as options I think the LD market is fairly flooded right now. Whereas good cost controlled 2nd line wingers may be in higher demand right now (ie Toffoli). I think you are right about the term making a difference though but otherwise I really don't think it's that far off.
19 juin 2022 à 12 h 15
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Makar was certainly not the one who pushed him down the depth, that was Toews. Beau also doesn't play on PP1 either.

I think the value fluctuates with the market. With guys like Chychrun, potentially Sergachev, and others as options I think the LD market is fairly flooded right now. Whereas good cost controlled 2nd line wingers may be in higher demand right now (ie Toffoli). I think you are right about the term making a difference though but otherwise I really don't think it's that far off.


Actually Toews and Girard played together last year and Makar played with Graves, it was arguably Girard’s best season. Anybody that is willing to pay more for a 2nd line winger than a 20+ minute dman is foolish imo. Sure Toffoli fetched a nice return but look at what defensive guys fetched in Chiarot and Manson TDL guys and throw in winger is arguably the easiest position to insert a young guy into and I don’t think it’s close.
19 juin 2022 à 12 h 33
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Actually Toews and Girard played together last year and Makar played with Graves, it was arguably Girard’s best season. Anybody that is willing to pay more for a 2nd line winger than a 20+ minute dman is foolish imo. Sure Toffoli fetched a nice return but lvehementlyook at what defensive guys fetched in Chiarot and Manson TDL guys and throw in winger is arguably the easiest position to insert a young guy into and I don’t think it’s close.


That's not actually correct, Makar and Toews were the most common pairing last year.

The Chiarot trade sucked but you are also not accounting for the retention on both those players. I don't disagree with Girard being a valuable player i think he could get a decent return but I would certainly not expect something like Dougie or Jones level
20 juin 2022 à 11 h 9
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Isles say yes.
 
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