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Is this fair for Gibson

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Équipe: 2022-23 Devils du New Jersey
Date de création initiale: 18 juin 2022
Publié: 18 juin 2022
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Nevermind everything else.
Gibson is still a top 10 goalie in the league even if you don't buy the stats buy the all-star nod.
Wood hasn't played more then 70 games in 4 years. 1st, prospect and player is gonna be ground work for a Gibson trade
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18 juin 2022 à 14 h 54
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Ducks fan here. I think that’s pretty fair
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18 juin 2022 à 14 h 55
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How high is the value of Zacha and Wood if they are likely UFAs in a July? Until they actually get qualifying offers this is really just Baal and a 1st
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18 juin 2022 à 14 h 56
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Quoting: Jded
Ducks fan here. I think that’s pretty fair


I would at least try to get Gritsyuk or Mukhamadullin in the deal instead of Bahl
18 juin 2022 à 14 h 57
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I think it's a decent deal depending on your view of Bahl, but would be hard to see a deal go through which doesn't have a goalie going the other way. So ultimately it would mean Blackwood.
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18 juin 2022 à 15 h 2
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I would at least try to get Gritsyuk or Mukhamadullin in the deal instead of Bahl


Not saying it’s perfect. But I think the value is pretty fair. Also, Bahl’s size is attractive for the ducks who have a serious lack of size in their best d prospects. Muk would be preferred for sure, but an undersized LW in Grits wouldn’t be ideal for ANA right now. Granted I’ve seen none of these 3 play extensively, so going mostly off profile and high level stats
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18 juin 2022 à 15 h 7
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If I'm Anaheim I don't want anything to do with Wood. Zacha would have to sign a long term deal. Give me Daws instead of Wood. And two DMen. Bahl and Walsh?? With everything the Ducks traded away they're looking two years, at least, down the road. That's Dostel and a back up, And defensemen to start.
18 juin 2022 à 15 h 12
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Quoting: Jded
Not saying it’s perfect. But I think the value is pretty fair. Also, Bahl’s size is attractive for the ducks who have a serious lack of size in their best d prospects. Muk would be preferred for sure, but an undersized LW in Grits wouldn’t be ideal for ANA right now. Granted I’ve seen none of these 3 play extensively, so going mostly off profile and high level stats


They need at least one good potential prospect to make the package look attractive. Zacha as a middle 6 guy and then a good prospect and a 1st
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18 juin 2022 à 15 h 17
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They need at least one good potential prospect to make the package look attractive. Zacha as a middle 6 guy and then a good prospect and a 1st


I hear you. I guess the reason I still think it’s somewhat fair compared to other offers is that the prospect is of lower value, but the 1st is in Bedard’s draft coming from a team that finished bottom 5 this year. Normally the first is from someone like TOR, EDM, WAS where it’s a 20OA+ with no realistic shot at the lottery
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18 juin 2022 à 15 h 19
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How high is the value of Zacha and Wood if they are likely UFAs in a July? Until they actually get qualifying offers this is really just Baal and a 1st


Doubt they would become UFAs. My guess is Wood is 90% to be brought back on short deal. Zacha 50/50. Probably gets traded.
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18 juin 2022 à 15 h 20
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While Gibson was great for a 3 year stretch, he hasn’t been for 3 years. Maybe you throw a conditional first in 2024 or something based on games played and a mid tier prospect or two, but there is a lot of risk involved. And he’s locked up for 5 more years at like 6 mil, which could come back to bite.

I just don’t see why that level of risk involves moving that much.
18 juin 2022 à 15 h 20
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I think the Devils are a good trade partner for Gibson but I’m not sure about this. I would ask for Mukahamadulin (I don’t know how to spell his name lmao) along with a young roster player
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18 juin 2022 à 15 h 24
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Unfortunately, Wood has very little trade value so Devils likely would not include him if his inclusion does not increase the return. But he has value to our team and it’s worth keeping him around. He is coming off major injury. And once he proves up health, could quickly regain value and be extended or traded at deadline.

Bahl, Zacha and 2023 1st (with some protection) and are moveable assets, so imagine would be on the table here.
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I would at least try to get Gritsyuk or Mukhamadullin in the deal instead of Bahl


Gritsyuk would be hard because everyone will expect him at a discount (he is Russian, he is under KHL contract and he was 5th round pick)

Mukhamadullin is highly unlikely, even if value is there because our GM absolutely loves him. (I am guessing there is a smidge of “I’ll show you!” there since people got on him for making that pick to start).
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19 juin 2022 à 2 h 6
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Quoting: Bickellai_Khabibulin
I think it's a decent deal depending on your view of Bahl, but would be hard to see a deal go through which doesn't have a goalie going the other way. So ultimately it would mean Blackwood.


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I would at least try to get Gritsyuk or Mukhamadullin in the deal instead of Bahl


Quoting: Jded
Not saying it’s perfect. But I think the value is pretty fair. Also, Bahl’s size is attractive for the ducks who have a serious lack of size in their best d prospects. Muk would be preferred for sure, but an undersized LW in Grits wouldn’t be ideal for ANA right now. Granted I’ve seen none of these 3 play extensively, so going mostly off profile and high level stats


Quoting: AntreDiAnaheim
I think the Devils are a good trade partner for Gibson but I’m not sure about this. I would ask for Mukahamadulin (I don’t know how to spell his name lmao) along with a young roster player


Quoting: NHLfan10506
Unfortunately, Wood has very little trade value so Devils likely would not include him if his inclusion does not increase the return. But he has value to our team and it’s worth keeping him around. He is coming off major injury. And once he proves up health, could quickly regain value and be extended or traded at deadline.

Bahl, Zacha and 2023 1st (with some protection) and are moveable assets, so imagine would be on the table here.


Blackwood would be moved in a seperate trade. I like Bahl in the limited couple games I’ve seen and think he becomes an nhl dman. Wood would be a good add for the ducks. But figured they can qualify both and work from there. Major selling point of a New Jersey trade. I have the devils, leafs, oilers, pens and caps as most likely teams. Intra division trades involving first round picks and stars are a no go hence no oilers. Leafs no as they’d need retention. Which brings me to the last three and I think the devils benefit the most from adding Gibson. Although I could see a trade with Washington too. The key part for the Ducks imo is no retention which a team like Pittsburgh or Washington May require
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