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YANNI GOURDEEE

Créé par: jschultz18
Date de création initiale: 17 juin 2022
Publié: 17 juin 2022
Équipe: 2022-23 Rangers de New York
Explications
This could work but probably won't happen. Cap hell incoming in summer of 2023. Might be better for Drury to make some trades to fill roster spots and spend as little as possible in FA.

With that said, I won't be shocked if Goodrow and/or Trouba get moved before the 2023 off-season. Easily replaceable players with high cap hits. It would definitely solve our cap issues.

I signed Motte on this just because I love the way he plays but I think it's more realistic to find someone just as good who is much much cheaper.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Kakko, Kaapo32 300 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Comrie, Eric11 000 000 $
Motte, Tyler42 350 000 $
Transactions
1.
NYR
  1. Gourde, Yanni (2 000 000 $ retained)
SEA
  1. Lundkvist, Nils
  2. Korczak, Ryder
  3. 2023 2e round pick (NYR)
Détails additionnels:
Conditional 2nd (If NYR advances to SCF it turns to a 1st)
Rachats de contrats
  • Kevin Shattenkirk: 1 433 333 $
  • Dan Girardi: 1 111 111 $
  • Anthony Deangelo: 883 334 $
  • Brad Richards: 0 $
  • Patrik Nemeth: 1 000 000 $
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2022
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2023
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2024
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2182 500 000 $80 595 635 $0 $3 650 000 $1 904 365 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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Kreider, Chris
6 500 000 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 5
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Zibanejad, Mika
8 500 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 8
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Kakko, Kaapo
2 300 000 $
AD
RFA - 2
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Panarin, Artemi
11 642 857 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 4
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Gourde, Yanni
3 166 666 $
C, AG, AD
NTC
UFA - 3
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Lafrenière, Alexis
925 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
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Blais, Samuel
1 525 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
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Chytil, Filip
2 300 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 1
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Kravtsov, Vitali
875 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
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Goodrow, Barclay
3 641 667 $
AG, C, AD
NTC
UFA - 5
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Rydahl, Gustav
750 000 $
C
UFA - 1
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Motte, Tyler
2 350 000 $
AG, AD
UFA
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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Lindgren, Ryan
3 000 000 $
DG
RFA - 2
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Fox, Adam
9 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 7
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Shesterkin, Igor
5 666 667 $
G
UFA - 3
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Miller, K'Andre
925 000 $
DG
RFA - 1
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Trouba, Jacob
8 000 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 4
Comrie, Eric
1 000 000 $
G
UFA - 2
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Jones, Zachary
925 000 $
DG
RFA - 1
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Schneider, Braden
925 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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Reaves, Ryan
1 750 000 $
AD
UFA - 1

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17 juin à 13 h 28
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At that price he better be retained all the way
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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
At that price he better be retained all the way


I made him expensive because SEA values him so much. Voted team MVP. However, he's 30 years old and SEA is in no way a win-now mode so trading him for prospects is the smart thing to do for them.
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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
At that price he better be retained all the way


Don’t ever underestimate the price of 3 years worth of retention.
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I made him expensive because SEA values him so much. Voted team MVP. However, he's 30 years old and SEA is in no way a win-now mode so trading him for prospects is the smart thing to do for them.


To get Gourde out of Seattle (ESPECIALLY with that much retained over 3 seasons), it would take an "overpay" from NY, for certain. Age, experience, leadership and everything else he brings is very useful to a developing hockey club, and he isn't going anywhere for those reasons unless the offer is "Godfather-like." LOL
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To get Gourde out of Seattle (ESPECIALLY with that much retained over 3 seasons), it would take an "overpay" from NY, for certain. Age, experience, leadership and everything else he brings is very useful to a developing hockey club, and he isn't going anywhere for those reasons unless the offer is "Godfather-like." LOL


I mean the guy is 30 and SEA is awful. They need to sell high on him and two talented prospects and a conditional 2nd is a lot for a guy who put up 46 points in 70+ games.
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To get Gourde out of Seattle (ESPECIALLY with that much retained over 3 seasons), it would take an "overpay" from NY, for certain. Age, experience, leadership and everything else he brings is very useful to a developing hockey club, and he isn't going anywhere for those reasons unless the offer is "Godfather-like." LOL


With the deal I made on here, what more would you put. Genuinely asking.
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3 years of retained yanni gourde is worth way more than that.
17 juin à 13 h 47
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I mean the guy is 30 and SEA is awful. They need to sell high on him and two talented prospects and a conditional 2nd is a lot for a guy who put up 46 points in 70+ games.


And Seattle gets MORE awful without him. Is that what Seattle should do? . . . Every player passed their prime who plays well for us should be shipped out for potential?? . . . Oh, and we should pay half his salary to play for someone else while we're at it? Come on! We need to put a product on the ice, too! If you really want him, and you want to only pay half for his services, the offer needs to blow us away.

Honestly, for how well he performed and the price you paid to acquire Copp, I don't see how you don't keep him in the fold. (and yes, I understand that could get pricey!)
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With the deal I made on here, what more would you put. Genuinely asking.


I honestly wouldn't begin to know. I am sure every contender in the league would be interested/making calls if Seattle made Gourde available, so it'd be quite the bidding war, to be certain . . . and again, if you want Seattle to pay half or near-half his wages . . . .

Lundkvist, Cuylee, '23 1st Rounder (unconditional) . . . and maybe instead of buying him out, Seattle will also take Nemeth off your hands.

Like I said, IMO the deal Seattle should look for can only be viewed as an overpay for NY or any team. But again, what the hell do I know!?! You're right about Gourde's value lessening the older he gets, so . . . . (???)
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Quoting: Quillanrocks
And Seattle gets MORE awful without him. Is that what Seattle should do? . . . Every player passed their prime who plays well for us should be shipped out for potential?? . . . Oh, and we should pay half his salary to play for someone else while we're at it? Come on! We need to put a product on the ice, too! If you really want him, and you want to only pay half for his services, the offer needs to blow us away.

Honestly, for how well he performed and the price you paid to acquire Copp, I don't see how you don't keep him in the fold. (and yes, I understand that could get pricey!)


A deal for Yanni can't be that far off from what we gave up for Copp but I get your point.
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I honestly wouldn't begin to know. I am sure every contender in the league would be interested/making calls if Seattle made Gourde available, so it'd be quite the bidding war, to be certain . . . and again, if you want Seattle to pay half or near-half his wages . . . .

Lundkvist, Cuylee, '23 1st Rounder (unconditional) . . . and maybe instead of buying him out, Seattle will also take Nemeth off your hands.

Like I said, IMO the deal he Seattle should look for can only be viewed as an overpay for NY or any team. But again, what the hell do I know!?! You're right about Gourde's value lessening the older he gets, so . . . . (???)


Yeah, MTL would most def throw their hat in the bidding war.
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I made him expensive because SEA values him so much. Voted team MVP. However, he's 30 years old and SEA is in no way a win-now mode so trading him for prospects is the smart thing to do for them.


Honestly, if you want Gourde, an established and effective two-way C with playoff credentials at just over 3 mil with term of an already reasonable contract, you're not making him nearly expensive enough.
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A deal for Yanni can't be that far off from what we gave up for Copp but I get your point.


But I disagree. While Copp and Gourde are perhaps comparable players (a toss-up whether you give Gourde the edge considering his credentials, or Copp because he is younger), the big difference is the trade for Copp was to acquire a rental. If trading for Gourde, as you propose, not only are you acquiring a player locked up for 3 years, but you're asking the other team to pay near half the salary. (a point I think I've stressed enough! LOL) So perhaps using Copp's deal as a benchmark isn't the way to go, IMO.
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